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I preface this with the acknowledgement that Michael Knowles is a manipulative troll, who phrased himself precisely the way he did to inspire precisely the response you're taking away, and I do not support that sort of behavior.

He didn't say that. Pretty much everyone who claimed he said that has retracted the claim and changed their headlines, because otherwise they would get sued and lose. And now there are dozens of headlines about his actual opinions. And anywhere someone states the original headlines over, they're going to get corrected by someone, further driving engagements with the ideas of Michael Knowles. You're playing into his hand. If you can't navigate the internet well enough to recognize this, you're probably better off not being on the internet.
Headline? Why am I talking about a headline? I didn't see it in any news. I just watched what he said. Like, I think it was live but you can never tell with streams

As to playing into his hands.... yes, he is a troll. If you are blaming those that point out that what he is saying terrible, that's a you problem. If he corrects himself after the event, and I commented straight after the event but before this 'retraction' then my comment is true BEFORE the retraction.

So, just to note, he is a troll... His RETRACTION is meant to troll you too. All of it is trolling. You thinking this way plays right into his hands. He wants people to think that the left is being mean when clearly he deliberately overstepped the mark.

If you are swayed by people 'being mean' to Knowles, you're deliberately taking things out of context. You know that they are criticizing something that deserves to be criticized

But then, that's not the point. Becuase YOU'RE TROLLING AGAIN. You dont care if they are being mean to Knowles. You are usually A) One of Knowles backers already B) Actively approve of what he says C) deliberately 'correcting' Knowles for the sole purpose of shifting the Overton Window. He says something outrageous so you can say something that is still racist/ homophobic/ transpobic etc but not as outrageous... so it seems more acceptable. You 'correcting' is PART OF THE PLAN.

Now, I've realized I did use a lot of yous here. I don't necessarily think that you personally did any of this, from the way you wrote this

This whole game is trying to make racist etc remarks acceptable. The whole premise of the first amendment is 'shine a light' on bad arguments. These trolls know this and have worked out a counter to getting a light shone on them. This has been their tactic since 2012. They WANT you to say what you said above. Because they trolled you and you took the bait
 

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...someone had to approve that. Someone had to physically point their eyes at their image, and then move their lips and vocal chords to form the words "that's good, go with it".

The idea is not "transgender people can exist'", it is "the people who say they are transgender do exist, but they aren't transgender."
It is amazing watching you decide what other people think, feel and believe, and what punishments they deserve. I'd accuse you of having a God complex if you hadn't already revealed that your "faith" is just a desire to belong to a club that celebrates your judgement tendencies.
 

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Fox getting away with trying to re-write reality.

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Carlson said last month that McCarthy gave him exclusive access to more than 40,000 hours of security video from the deadly riot. After reviewing the footage, Carlson said he believes it proves that lawmakers on the Jan. 6 Committee and media were "lying" about what happened that day.

“The footage does not show an insurrection or a riot in progress,” Carlson said as he aired the clips Monday. “It shows police escorting people through the building."
 

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Nothing. You do nothing. You're trying to interpret his words from a perspective of gender as an immutable characteristic and transgender as one particular configuration of that. But that isn't his perspective, he sees the whole thing as a misconception. Imagine the following conversation:

Person A: We need to remove from society the idea that tomatoes are a vegetable!
Person B: You want to get rid of tomatoes?
Person A: No, I just want to acknowledge that they're a fruit.
Person B: So what are you gonna do with the tomatoes then?

That's what this conversation looks like from his perspective.
I'm sorry but....that's honestly a load of gibberish.
 

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The US is beating us with its slave prisons, though, but Australian Aboriginals are still the most incarcerated people on Earth.
 

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Oh look at that, one of the usual suspects are complaining about the new TMNT movie, cuz it's not like the ones from their childhood or teenagehood, and the jackass is complaining about the race change. Even though April's race has been changed before in the last cartoon, and she was turned white in most other adaptions. When in the original comics she's a biracial female. "Seth Rogen is ruining TMNT!". I watched half of the video in incognito mode, and had to stop from the blatant ignorance and stupidity from this asshole. Watch at your own risk.

 
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Headline? Why am I talking about a headline? I didn't see it in any news. I just watched what he said. Like, I think it was live but you can never tell with streams
If you were genuinely watching CPAC live, you have serious problems.
I commented straight after the event but before this 'retraction' then my comment is true BEFORE the retraction.
No, you didn't. His speech was on Saturday, media outlets covered it the same day, and by Saturday night he was demanding retractions on Twitter. By Monday morning, those retractions had happened. And in his show on Monday, which is syndicated on the talk radio in my area exactly during my commute home, he was talking about how the headlines had been all or mostly changed. You commented monday night. All these things have timestamps.
He says something outrageous so you can say something that is still racist/ homophobic/ transpobic etc but not as outrageous... so it seems more acceptable. You 'correcting' is PART OF THE PLAN.
I just told you that. I did not pretend he was being reasonable, though my problem is not so much with the content of his claims but with the tactics he uses to spread them. Me telling you that it was planned isn't part of the plan, I'm not intended to throw him under the bus in his mind.

You're not gonna save face here outside of something like "I made a mistake but I still disagree with his stance"
I'm sorry but....that's honestly a load of gibberish.
You're not sorry, cause you're making no attempt to understand.
 

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Oh look at that, one of the usual suspects are complaining about the new TMNT movie, cuz it's not like the ones from their childhood or teenagehood, and the jackass is complaining about the race change. Even though April's race has been changed before in the last cartoon, and she was turned white in most other adaptions. When in the original comics she's a biracial female. "Seth Rogen is ruining TMNT!". I watched half of the video in incognito mode, didn't have to stop from the blatant ignorance and stupidity from this asshole. Watch at your own risk.

I love this argument because April O'Neil has literally never, ever, had a consistent character design from one piece of media to the next. It's kind of impressive in its own right
 
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I love this argument because April O'Neil has literally never, ever, had a consistent character design from one piece of media to the next. It's kind of impressive in its own right
Exactly, and the people in the video comment sections are buying this. Or throwing shades at Angry Joe for being "political". I don't like AJ, but I hate Rageaholic even more and have even less respect for him.

BTW, April is part alien in the TMNT 2012 cartoon series. I did not make that up. I had long stop watching before that point though. It was really dumb plot twist.
 

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Oh? Which part?
I don't know. I think that reveal happened during the midway or end of season 3. I stopped watching by season 2. It didn't help that the original writer left after the first season, because Nickelodeon couldn't stop interfering where they didn't belong and kept making changes for the sake of selling toys. It really shows in the later seasons. Negating Karai's eyes he'll face turn for the sake of transforming her into a snake mutant for a whole season, just to sell some toys, really grinds my gears and is a show of bad storytelling and bad faith in the viewers.
 
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By Monday morning, those retractions had happened. And in his show on Monday, which is syndicated on the talk radio in my area exactly during my commute home, he was talking about how the headlines had been all or mostly changed.
Certainly not all-- some (like Rolling Stone) have had the honesty to leave it up and call out the absurdity of the distinction he's trying to retroactively draw.

Of course, i don't think he was calling for killings. But that's not what "eradication of trans people" means in those headline, and he knows it. It refers to legal efforts to force them out of public life, coerce them to deny their identity or stay repressed, and deny then medical access.

Of course, this is CPAC. If he had called for killings, there'd have been more than a couple of cheers.
 
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