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Dwarvenhobble

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You already have been given citations, you just didn't like it
No we have claims, seemingly one with little to no supporting evidence behind them.

You know like claims about how much of an awful abuser Johnny Depp..............


You think that Pizzagate was real?
Yes,

Pizzagate was real.

People made a hashtag on twitter to argue that Pineapple of Pizza is a bad thing and then people who had been calling them toxic monsters for years they used a joke hashtag arguing against pineapple of Pizza as evidence of how awful and toxic said people are.

Are you arguing that hashtag never happened now?
 

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Both of these have been criticized heavily and no one likes Uwe Boll.
Yeh and the people now against Sound of Freedom called people objecting to CCP investment racists lol.





The lead actor is a Qanon supporter playing a guy who also supports Qanon.
And?

Plenty of Hollywood actors believe insane things.

If you don't believe that I've got a new religious belief to sell you involving ancient alien warlords.



I asked "what claim" and you respond with this?
Yes because it was a claim you made I was responding to.

So yeh your personal incredulity fallacy is not my problem here.
 

Dwarvenhobble

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What a totally sick **** of a person. And not in the good way.


- During a Republican-led oversight committee hearing regarding IRS whistleblowers connected to a probe into President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden, Marjorie Taylor Greene showed explicit photos of the president’s son on posters.

The Georgia Republican held up a series of posters with images of Hunter Biden naked and photos of him engaging in sexual acts at the Congressional hearing on Wednesday.
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But this is the weirdest bit....


- Florida Republican Byron Donalds came to her defence: “According to @RepRaskin & @danielsgoldman, the explicit images of Hunter Biden presented by @RepMTG are TOO RACY for the Oversight Committee & demanded they go away. These are the same Democrats that want this material IN OUR KIDS’ SCHOOLS. Please spare me the outrage.”
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So according to republicans, democrats want to show amateur revenge porn to kids as part of the curriculum.

Modern democracy has allowed unhinged lunatics to hold power over the people.

1) NAKED DONALD TRUMP STATUES (PLURAL)

2) Maybe Hunter shouldn't have done drugs, slept with prostitutes, then posed while doing drugs with said prostitutes for the photos and then dropped off his laptop at some random computer repair shop to have it fixed and do data recovery while never leaving anywhere to actually send the stuff to resulting in the computer shop having to look through the files to try and find out who owned the laptop lol.

You don't get to pull the disgust card when it was celebrated that:

Multiple naked trump statues were made and put out there (not including paintings too) all designed to be as ugly and small membered as possible.

Endlessly discuss the whole possible golden shower tape totally existing with Trump in it.

Celebrate and run round the place with stories of how Donald Trump's penis looks like Toad from Super Mario Brothers.

Then come bad and get pissy when actual leaked photos of the actual son of an actual president smoking crack while naked in bed with hookers gets shown in congress. We all fucking know if the pee tape was real it would have been projected 50 foot high on a constant loop on the side of Trump tower by some group or other and celebrated lol.
 

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Tbh I expected way more class from Brit conservatives than trying to defend a poorly written, boring American Evangelical fluff piece "fundraiser" for a wealthy mormon conman who's claims and non-profit charity don't hold up to basic levels of transparency and scrutiny. It's not a hill with a sturdy shelf life to be passionately dying on. There are healthier options to debase oneself these days.

Moving on, totally unrelated updates incoming.

Anyone who bought the painting of Ballard doing a Harriet Tubman might wanna consider the prospect of it soon to be aging much more poorly than it already has.





So likely won't be long till some less-than-flattering details come out in the future. Though not before the fundraising collects the initial haul of "pay it forward" tickets at least.

Nobody asked for it, but you're getting it regardless. It's important to submerse and marinate under this kinda hubris, to orient yourselves. To humble us all.





Finally, if we're to learn anything important from their work, don't forget the brave timeless quotes whispered by a breathless sweaty Jim Caveziel from the film;

"NEVER TRUST A PEDOPHILE!"



"GOD'S CHILDREN ARE NOT FOR SALE!"
Apart from the ones in religious adoption agencies

In before this turns out to be fake.
 

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You know, I'd be willing to take this movie at a lot more good faith if conservatives hadn't spent the last couple of years obsessing over protecting the children from baby eating democrates, grooming gays, and genital mutilating trans people. I'd even be willing to take it at some good faith had they at least been consistent with their want to protect children, and argued equally for free school lunches, affordable medicine and healthcare, and against the repeal of child labor laws. But that's ofcourse not the message they want to send out. No, their message is that children need to be kept away from the degenerate socialist Left and the ungodly gays and trans people. They need to be protected from THAT. And this movie is obviously trying to correlate to this message by making the inciting incident unquestionably evil, and conveniently in line with what they've accused "the woke" of doing.

Heck, when the oh-so liberal Hollywood does this shit it makes me want to dry heave at the hypocrisy, but Tim Ballard and Jim Caviezel.... Yeah, I see what you trying to peddle, so please go fuck yourself.
Which is not the message of or any of what happens in the film.....................
 

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Yeh and the people now against Sound of Freedom called people objecting to CCP investment racists lol.
You seem to have trouble grasping this little thing called nuance.

Not everyone who criticized the CCP did so in good faith. That is why some of them were called racist and others who did have more understandable and justified criticisms were not.

Just as how making a film about child trafficking doesn't make you an expert on the subject. Especially if your own efforts at combatting child trafficking are questionable at best.

https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/05/sex-trafficking-raid-operation-underground-railroad.html


https://www.fox13now.com/news/fox-1...ilroad-under-investigation-by-utah-prosecutor





And?

Plenty of Hollywood actors believe insane things.

If you don't believe that I've got a new religious belief to sell you involving ancient alien warlords.
Thanks for stating the obvious Holmes. Tell me, do you have an actual reason for defending this film other than people on the left being against it?


Yes because it was a claim you made I was responding to.

So yeh your personal incredulity fallacy is not my problem here.
Yeah I still don't know what you're babbling about.
 
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But, people crowdfunding a film are likely to be people supporting the film's message or wanting a movie like that to be out there and therefore if the crowdfunding campaign was promoted by people guilty of wrongthink it's the same as being bankrolled and managed by Gavin McInnes and Enrique Tarrio. Not the first crowdfunded film I've heard that sort of thing argued about.

I'm actually mostly out of the loop regarding this one, aside from knowing a bunch of right wingers act like it's the greatest film of the decade and a bunch of left wingers act like it's one step below Triumph of the Will and it's apparently about child sex trafficking? Given the current climate, that could mean it lands anywhere from "not all pedophiles are straight and cis" to "all Democrats are part of a pedophile conspiracy to traffic children, especially the trans ones" or anywhere in between. What, specifically is so contentious about it so I can go clip hunting and build an actual opinion?
I want to be clear.

OUR has good intentions. Execution is causing way more problems and is actively making their intentions less likely. It's like Bill Gates spends a lot of money and has good intentions but the execution is horrible and left a lot of students behind
 

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There are two main areas of criticism: content and personnel.

In terms of content: it focuses on Tim Ballard and Operation Underground Railroad, which is Ballard's anti-trafficking organisation. Ballard has made some very suspect claims, including that he raided a "baby factory" in West Africa that was involved in "Satanic ritual sacrifice". This is almost certainly complete bollocks. He also co-runs a non-profit with Glenn Beck, who is (of course) a liar and conspiracy theorist.

In terms of personnel: it stars Jim Caviezel, who is a conspiracy theorist and proponent of QAnon bullshit. In media interviews he has tied the film's message to QAnon claims.

It also counts among its Producers Andrew McCubbins, who is suspected of defrauding Medicare of tens of thousands of dollars, and Eduardo Verástegui, who is an organiser of Mexico's CPAC.
Ah... this is not enough

Ballard has been ousted by OUR because he did things like use a psychic to 'track down trafficked children' and obviously the children weren't there. He was going around blaming everyone in villages for being part of trafficking trade with absolutely no evidence... which pissed everyone off and made any tracking of crimes impossible

This is not a 'woke liberal media' response. It's OUR's. They think he's trouble
 
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In a story so hard to believe, one of those fake electors from Michigan is claiming that she signed in to a GOP delegates meeting and this signature was used to turn her into a fake elector

 

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Bret Weinstein, of all people, cant understand why people he likes go to what he calls Nazi twitter to defend Hitler

You only need to watch the first couple of mins


Later in his episode, Bret's wife blame Nazi twitter on the wokes
 

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Some people are just really that stupid and ignorant. They're not even worth freaking out. Let them cry for their own stupidity.

A decade later these fools learn nothing, and live in their own pathetic pretend worlds. Remember this from 2012?

March 26, 2012, 5:25 PM EDT
By Gael Fashingbauer Cooper and Gael Fashingbauer Cooper
Even though the character of Rue in Suzanne Collins' book "The Hunger Games" is described as having "dark brown skin and eyes," many moviegoers were surprised -- some negatively -- that a young black actress played the role in the film.
(Spoiler alert: Details of the plot of "The Hunger Games" revealed ahead.)

In an article headlined "Racist Hunger Games Fans Are Very Disappointed," the blog Jezebel pointed out that a Tumblr site called Hunger Games Tweets has been collecting tweets reacting to the casting.
Amandla Stenberg, 13, plays Rue, a 12-year-old tribute from District 11 who fights alongside heroine Katniss Everdeen in the movie's murderous tournament. According to Wikipedia, Stenberg's mother is African-American and her father Danish. She also appeared in the 2011 film "Colombiana."
While some of the comments are mere surprise, others are more opinionated. "Why does rue have to be black not gonna lie kinda ruined the movie," wrote one moviegoer on Twitter. Wrote another, "Kk call me racist but when I found out Rue was black her death wasnt as sad #ihatemyself."
Both of those accounts appear to have been deleted from Twitter since Jezebel called out the posts, but numerous other posts quoted on Hunger Games Tweets offer up similiar thoughts.
Some tweets also referenced other "Hunger Games" characters played by black actors, including Rue's fellow District 11 tribute, Thresh, and the "Games" stylist Cinna, played by musician Lenny Kravitz.
Rue's skin color should hardly have been a secret. In addition to being spelled out in the book, Stenberg and Kravitz were among those pictured in individual character posters released back in October.

As the Jezebel article and the Tumblr link spread, a backlash against the racist sentiments appeared on Twitter.
Wrote Michelle Juett, "People disgust me. Rue was great, whatever race you thought she was supposed to be."
And Andria Nicole tweeted, "Heads up: if discovering Rue is black 'ruins' the Hunger Games movie for you, you have a lot bigger issues to worry about than casting."
And by Monday afternoon, the author of Hunger Games Tweets had seen some change, posting the message, "The number of Tweets complaining about Rue & Thresh have been greatly reduced and it's all thanks to you guys."
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On Tuesday, February 28th, a twenty-nine-year-old Canadian male fan of Suzanne Collins’s dystopian young adult trilogy, “The Hunger Games,” logged onto the popular blogging platform Tumblr for the first time and created a site he called Hunger Games Tweets. The young man, whom I’ll call Adam, had been tracking a disturbing trend among Hunger Games enthusiasts: readers who could not believe—or accept—that Rue and Thresh, two of the most prominent and beloved characters in the book, were black, had been posting vulgar racial remarks.
Adam, who read and fell in love with the trilogy last year, initially encountered these sorts of sentiments in the summer of 2011, when he began visiting Web sites, forums, and message boards frequented by the series’s fans, who were abuzz with news about the film version of the book. (The movie, released a week ago today, made a staggering $152.5 million during its first three days of release.) After an argument broke out in the comments section of an Entertainment Weekly post that suggested the young black actress Willow Smith be cast as the character of Rue, he realized that racially insensitive remarks by “Hunger Games” fans were features, not bugs. He soon began poking around on Twitter, looking at tweets that incorporated hashtags—#hungergames—used by the book’s devotees. Like the conversations found on message boards, some of the opinions were vitriolic, if not blatantly racist; unlike the postings on fan forums, however, the Twitter comments were usually attached to real identities.
“Naturally Thresh would be a black man,” someone who called herself @lovelyplease tweeted.
“I was pumped about the Hunger Games. Until I learned that a black girl was playing Rue,” @JohnnyKnoxIV wrote.
“Why is Rue a little black girl?” @FrankeeFresh demanded to know. (She appended her tweet with the hashtag admonishment #sticktothebookDUDE.)
Adam was shocked—Suzanne Collins had been fairly explicit about the appearance, if not the ethnicity, of Rue and Thresh, who, along with twenty-two other kids, are thrown into the life-or-death, “Lord of the Flies”-esque battle that the book is named for. He began taking screen grabs of the offensive tweets and posting them to Instagram. Adam soon decided that Instagram’s functionality was too limited for his purposes—users can look at the photos of people they follow but can’t easily share them—so he played around with different social-media technologies and switched to Tumblr, which, like Twitter, allows users to reblog the posts of people they follow, thereby exponentially broadening their reach.

At the beginning, Adam, who works as a financial executive for a large multinational bank by day, had just a few dozen followers. In his first post, titled “Presenting…Hunger Games Tweets!,” he explained that he’d created the site in order to “acknowledge all of the idiotic tweets that I’ve come across as they concern the Hunger Games.” He followed that post up with his first Twitter screen grab, courtesy of someone named @MAD_1113, who had tweeted, “Rue is black?!? Whaa?!” One person, perhaps Adam’s very first follower, “liked” the post.

By mid-March, Adam’s screen grabs were regularly receiving five, ten, sometimes twenty “likes.” Other Tumblr users were reblogging Hunger Games Tweets and providing their own commentary alongside Adam’s. (In response to a tweet from a young woman named Kayla, who asked, “why is Rue black?!?! #WTH #hungergamesprobs,” Adam responded, “Melanin. Rue is black because of MELANIN.” “Oh my god, Kayla, you can’t just ask people why they’re black,” a Tumblr user named beastieeyes22 added.) Last week, just as the film version of “The Hunger Games” was about to hit theatres, Adam’s Tumblr posts were receiving dozens, if not hundreds, of reblogs and responses. By the time of the film’s release, the site was going viral: Adam’s follower count shot up into four figures, and it was mentioned on the home pages of such sites as CNN.com, BuzzFeed, and Jezebel, which did a story that has turned out to be the highest-trafficked in the site’s history, with almost two million page views. (Disclosure: I used to edit Jezebel.)
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In retrospect, it’s easy to see why Hunger Games Tweets took off: the project is a potent mix of pop-culture criticism, social-media sharing, provocative statements, and public shaming. But more important, and no doubt more disturbing, is what Adam’s time line of ignorant tweets—what he calls “the repository of death”—says about a certain generation’s failure of imagination. (A look at the tweeters’ profile pictures suggests that most of the missives were written by people in their teens and early twenties. Jezebel reported in a postscript that most of the people quoted on Hunger Games Tweets have since taken down their accounts or made them private.)
In addition to offering object lessons in bad reading comprehension, Hunger Games Tweets—there are now more than two hundred on the blog—illuminated long-standing racial biases and anxieties. The hundred-and-forty-character outbursts were microcosms of the ways in which the humanity of minorities is often denied and thwarted, and they underscored how infuriatingly conditional empathy can be. (“Kk call me racist but when I found out rue was black her death wasn’t as sad,” @JashperParas, who amended his tweet with the hashtag #ihatemyself, wrote.) They also beg the question: If the stories we tell ourselves about the future, however disturbing, don’t include black people; if readers of “The Hunger Games” are so blind as to skip over the author’s specific details and themes of appearance, race, and class, then what does it say about the stories we tell ourselves regarding the present?
Adam says that the pivotal moment in the evolution of Hunger Games Tweets came on or around March 23rd, after he posted a tweet by someone named Alana Paul, a petite brunette who went by the handle @sw4q. Alana’s tweet was not the most offensive or nakedly racist of the bunch (that award could go to Cliff Kigar, who dropped the N-bomb, or to @GagasAlexander, who complained of “some ugly little girl with nappy…hair.”) but perhaps the most telling. “Awkward moment when Rue is some black girl and not the little blonde innocent girl you picture,” she wrote. She cc’ed a friend on the tweet, @EganMcCoy.
“That tweet was very telling, in terms of a mentality that is probably very widespread,” Adam says, speaking softly from his office high above Toronto’s downtown financial district. He doesn’t sound angry, but he also isn’t amused. The phrases “some black girl” and “little blonde innocent girl” are ringing in my head as he talks, as are thoughts about how the heroes in our imaginations are white until proven otherwise, a variation on the principle of innocent until proven guilty that, for so many minorities, is routinely upended.
Adam tells me that, on the post featuring a screenshot of Alana’s tweet, he added, “Remember that word innocent? This is why Trayvon Martin is dead.” As he says it, I am thinking the same thing: of our culture’s association of whiteness with innocence, of a child described without an accompanying adjective, of a child rendered insignificant and therefore invisible because of his or her particular shade of skin. “I am invisible, understand, simply because people refuse to see me,” the protagonist explains in another famous work of fiction, Ralph Ellison’s “Invisible Man,” which was published sixty years ago this month. “Invisible” can mean unseen, but just as often it speaks to others’ inability to see beyond something, or someone. The renaming of Rue as “some black girl” is a version of this, as is the pursuit and murder of the seventeen-year-old Martin, who, by some accounts, was shot dead by the self-professed neighborhood watchman of an Orlando-area community because all George Zimmerman could see was that he was young, male, and black.

It’s unclear whether Suzanne Collins anticipated such reactions, or whether she encountered them when the book was first published, in 2008. (Attempts to get the author to comment were unsuccessful, but Lionsgate, the distributor of the film, issued a statement praising the passion of the fans who spoke out against the racist comments, saying, “We applaud and support their action.”) Adam says he believes that the notoriously press-shy author overestimated her audience, and wonders whether writers have a responsibility to be more explicit when introducing non-white characters in their books. I believe that Collins was well aware of what she was doing: after all, in the author’s imagining, Rue is herself invisible to most of the other “Hunger Games” characters, a quick-on-her-feet, resourceful “shadow,” either unseen or unremarked upon by almost everyone but the book’s protagonist and heroine, Katniss Everdeen. It’s a conceit that seems to have worked maybe a little too well.

“People very often talk about literacy with words, but there’s such a thing as visual and thematic literacy,” Deborah Pope, the executive director of the Ezra Jack Keats Foundation, which encourages diversity in kids’ books, says. “I think some of these young people just didn’t really read the book.” (Mr. Keats’s groundbreaking classic, “The Snowy Day,” which is celebrating its fiftieth anniversary this year, revolutionized children’s literature by being the first mainstream picture book to feature a black male protagonist.) Pope tells me that data analyzed by the University of Wisconsin-Madison’s Cooperative Children’s Book Center in 2010 found that only nine per cent of the three thousand four hundred children’s books published that year contained significant cultural or ethnic diversity. She points out that the white default—in books, as in other forms of mass media—is learned and internalized early, including by children of color. It takes vigilance—and self-awareness—to overcome. “I picked up on the [character and racial] descriptions in ‘The Hunger Games’ immediately,” Adam, who is of Caribbean descent, says. “But, then again, whenever I read something, I wonder, Where can I find the character who represents ME?”
 
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