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I'm just kind of confused about this idea that Abby is impossibly brawny. This only makes sense for people have never seen sportswomen, up to and including one of the most famous of the last couple of decades, Serena Williams. I mean, have you seen her arms? She is packing way more muscle than a load of the keyboard warriors getting in a tizzy whenever women have bulges that aren't breasts, hips and buttocks.

Although, maybe, you know, the sort of people complaining about it are the sort of people who think women's sports aren't real sport and haven't seen any sportswomen.
So because no-one is bothering with Liana K's videos that I linked earlier which go through all this here's the quick version to alleviate confusion.

Yes some real women in the present world can and do look brawny, so using the "real women" argument here's the many issues with that.

  • Real world women who look like Abby have specialised training and diet regimes pretty much only made possible by the modern world to achieve said look
  • Abby being part of a faction not struggling for food doesn't matter as it would still be rations Abby wouldn't have access to the amount of food needed to build and maintain that amount of muscle.
  • Abby's workout regime (actually something about in the game) also wouldn't be enough to get her present look
  • Even Abby's own body model who works out professionally and does it as her job and does competitions etc can't maintain the look of Abby for more than 2 weeks at a time because of how the diet regime etc works and the impact on her body.
  • At one point Abby spends a month or so on the road so less access to food / rations or the gym equipment as loses 0 muscle

 

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So because no-one is bothering with Liana K's videos
No, because neither I nor I suspect many others could give a shit about random YouTubers with no bona fides. You may as well say "Dave from down the pub told me" as an authority for your waffle.
 

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"Not all women in games need to be sexy, but if they aren't traditionally sexy, there has to be a hidden agenda for it!"

Why do I get the feeling that Dwarven is one of those people who also thinks the female cast of MK 1 was intentionally made uglier?
 
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I'm just kind of confused about this idea that Abby is impossibly brawny. This only makes sense for people have never seen sportswomen, up to and including one of the most famous of the last couple of decades, Serena Williams. I mean, have you seen her arms? She is packing way more muscle than a load of the keyboard warriors getting in a tizzy whenever women have bulges that aren't breasts, hips and buttocks.

Although, maybe, you know, the sort of people complaining about it are the sort of people who think women's sports aren't real sport and haven't seen any sportswomen.
Here's the thing, it probably is unrealistic for Abby to look like that in that setting. If you're going to be super duper critical, then yes. But you know what else is unrealistic? Most of what the characters in these games do...

- Joel indefinitely punching people without breaking his fists.
- Joel not looking emaciated, and actually looking very burly.
- Joel not getting infected from taking his mask off the instant he's out of a spore cloud (spores tend to stick in hair and clothes).
- People having white teeth in a world with no oral hygiene.
- Joel, Ellie, and Abby not going deaf from all the times they fire guns.
- None of the characters suffering ailments from not drying their feet after walking through water.
- And my favourite; Joel surviving getting run through by a rusty rebar, and 14-year old child nursing him back to health.

You'd think the 'Abby isn't realistic' crowd would have a field day with that last one if it was actually about realism. But it isn't, it's about scrutinizing female characters in action settings. If Abby wasn't brawny looking she'd get criticized for being too skinny to be a soldier.
 
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No, because neither I nor I suspect many others could give a shit about random YouTubers with no bona fides. You may as well say "Dave from down the pub told me" as an authority for your waffle.
So to be clear.

The statements brought up by Liana made by Abby's own body model are not an authority on what it would take and require to get and maintain a body like Abby's.........................I'd love to hear you justify that as a position then because this is the most ridiculous position I've see anyone take since Amber Heard's defence team thought it was a good idea to have their expert testify that Johnny Depp was clearly an abuser because of his performance in Pirates of the Caribbean playing a somewhat untrustworthy pirate.
 

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"Not all women in games need to be sexy, but if they aren't traditionally sexy, there has to be a hidden agenda for it!"

Why do I get the feeling that Dwarven is one of those people who also thinks the female cast of MK 1 was intentionally made uglier?
They were........... one of the character artists came out on twitter years ago to say they were making the changes because something about realism and real women or some such bullshit.
 

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And my favourite; Joel surviving getting run through by a rusty rebar, and 14-year old child nursing him back to health.
Like, I had a laparoscopy a few weeks ago and it's just four cuts in the surface and whatever they do below the surface, and it's really quite debilitating for a while (I could walk around and such, but only for about 15 minutes). And I got an infection from a surgery carried out in a hospital. The rebar killed him and the entirety of TLOU 1 and 2 was actually a fever dream.

(I haven't played these games much. I started TLOU1 but just couldn't get into it.)
 

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No, because neither I nor I suspect many others could give a shit about random YouTubers with no bona fides. You may as well say "Dave from down the pub told me" as an authority for your waffle.
No, but don't you see, she's made like 4 or 5 videos on how Abby doesn't look realistic. That must mean she really has something to say about it and isn't just milking the subject for clicks. By the way, I saw one of her videos once, it was on God of War and how the sex mini-games were all about how the women used Kratos for sex and how he was a victim in all of it. That's the level of intelligence you can expect from her.
"Not all women in games need to be sexy, but if they aren't traditionally sexy, there has to be a hidden agenda for it!"

Why do I get the feeling that Dwarven is one of those people who also thinks the female cast of MK 1 was intentionally made uglier?
Because none of them have apparently ever heard of the uncanny valley.
 

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Like, I had a laparoscopy a few weeks ago and it's just four cuts in the surface and whatever they do below the surface, and it's really quite debilitating for a while (I could walk around and such, but only for about 15 minutes). And I got an infection from a surgery carried out in a hospital. The rebar killed him and the entirety of TLOU 1 and 2 was actually a fever dream.

(I haven't played these games much. I started TLOU1 but just couldn't get into it.)
Most game protagonists would fall down dead from a heart attack due to the simple act of running everywhere.
 

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Then you didn't look very well as you can even follow the chain of quotes back and find multiple people talking about Abby before me and bringing her up unsolicited lol








You have no idea lol




Yes strange how people bringing up Abby also like the game almost like there's a correlation there. What a shocker
You don't have to hate the game to see how dumb the whining over Abby's body is.
 

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So because no-one is bothering with Liana K's videos that I linked earlier which go through all this here's the quick version to alleviate confusion.

Yes some real women in the present world can and do look brawny, so using the "real women" argument here's the many issues with that.

  • Real world women who look like Abby have specialised training and diet regimes pretty much only made possible by the modern world to achieve said look
  • Abby being part of a faction not struggling for food doesn't matter as it would still be rations Abby wouldn't have access to the amount of food needed to build and maintain that amount of muscle.
  • Abby's workout regime (actually something about in the game) also wouldn't be enough to get her present look
  • Even Abby's own body model who works out professionally and does it as her job and does competitions etc can't maintain the look of Abby for more than 2 weeks at a time because of how the diet regime etc works and the impact on her body.
  • At one point Abby spends a month or so on the road so less access to food / rations or the gym equipment as loses 0 muscle

Jesus Christ, who the fuck cares?
 
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Why do I get the feeling that Dwarven is one of those people who also thinks the female cast of MK 1 was intentionally made uglier?
More than likely is.

Jesus Christ, who the fuck cares?
Because people like Dwarvenhobble, cry and whine over the most trivial things, and know they have nothing better to do in their lives. Yet they call other people snowflakes for bringing up serious issues or those that cause actual harm.

 

Dwarvenhobble

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More than likely is.


Because people like Dwarvenhobble, cry and whine over the most trivial things, and know they have nothing better to do in their lives. Yet they call other people snowflakes for bringing up serious issues or those that cause actual harm.

And yet people like you are here to whine about people like me so what does that say about your life?

I figured after the 4th of 5th time how you proclaimed you were blocking me and done with talking to me you'd actually abide by it but then I still find you sniping from the sidelines like this quite often.

Also issues that cause actual harm?
Oh you mean like sexy women in games?
Or the lack of black elves in the Witcher games?
Or the lack of gay romance in Lord of the Rings?
Or the lack of wheelchair ramps in Dungeons and Dragons Dungeons?
Or how people have got it into their head that Orcs = black people so orcs are racist?
Or how there's no female space marines (While ignoring the fact the Sisters of Battle are fucking awesome without being genetic supersoldiers)
Or an artist drawing a character 2 skin tones too light?
Or female characters having butts?
Or that time people got super mad everyone wouldn't suddenly accept Samus as being Trans just because some journalist said so?
Or that time a DC artist decided to do a meet and greet at a Pizza parlour without publicly declaring his allegiance for a certain political ideology?
 

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Nobody else has put a fraction of the effort and time into the argument that you've put into furious ranting about a fictional woman you don't want to have sex with. It's just pathetic. Get over it, grow up.
Effort?

I've literally just been copy and pasting the same points in the same order as last time this came up, even the same replies to the same counter arguments as before lol. Those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it and you and others here less than happy this is happening again have not learned from the last time.


You and others keep making the baseless claim that people don't like Abby because they don't want to have sex with her because it's a fucking easy argument to make when you care more about emotive statements than factual ones. You seemingly can't understand people don't like Abby for a number of other reasons, but because you lot are so shallow apparently you have to focus on her look and believe everyone else does too. Seemingly entirely unable to accept or comprehend people dislike her for other reason.
 

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Effort?

I've literally just been copy and pasting the same points in the same order as last time this came up, even the same replies to the same counter arguments as before lol. Those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it and you and others here less than happy this is happening again have not learned from the last time.


You and others keep making the baseless claim that people don't like Abby because they don't want to have sex with her because it's a fucking easy argument to make when you care more about emotive statements than factual ones. You seemingly can't understand people don't like Abby for a number of other reasons, but because you lot are so shallow apparently you have to focus on her look and believe everyone else does too. Seemingly entirely unable to accept or comprehend people dislike her for other reason.
So you're going to pretend you didn't state TLoU 2's lack of sexiness as a reason you disliked the game just two pages ago?
 

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You seemingly can't understand people don't like Abby for a number of other reasons, but because you lot are so shallow apparently you have to focus on her look and believe everyone else does too. Seemingly entirely unable to accept or comprehend people dislike her for other reason.
I can understand since I dislike Abby for being a psychopath. As such I don't feel much need to bring her muscles in a discussion.
 
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