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Accusing him of "siding with MAGA" is just pointlessly negative framing. The fact that a lot of jobs, under their current conditions, can only be filled by giving them to people with lower expectations, need be all the way from the other end of the world, is one of the biggest problems of western economies.

Like, I do think that is a problem and an unsustainable method in the long term. Not because I want less immigrants but because I don't think treating them as a source of cheap labour instead of improving work conditions to make positions attractive to people who aren't desperate enough to do anything for any price is the way to go.
You do realize empires can die due to decadence/high wages. I generally don't like what the government is doing as its strategy to counter China, but if China controls the sea routes, and automated factories, and is a hyperpower they will charge monopoly of power rents even worse than the US is charging.

I am a data analyst/scientist and the import of H1Bs to my field is crashing my wages due to supply and demand, but if everyone made 200K this country wouldn't be a superpower we would be another Switzerland.

It sucks for me, and every worker, but it's the result of necessary geopolitical actions by the US government.
 

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Did they provide "Incomplete records", or did they merely not comply with the prosecution's pointless condition that the full lab report be turned over to them?
They provided a record only so far as it left open the possibility of Trump's DNA. The remainder of the report could have information that would prove it wasn't. We'll never know.
Quick reminder that cells of any kind would disprove Trump's claim that he never even met her, and if he's lying about that, it already looks shady.
Cells that could be proven to be definitely from Trump would do that.
And as far as I know, the request was only 'dropped' after discovery had concluded. After they'd been requesting it from Trump (to no avail) for three years.
They never asked for a court order.
They'd be 'hearsay of her personal claims' if we were using them to prove Carroll's allegations themselves. I'm not: the salient point is that they heard it many years before the article or the lawsuit. On that point, they're direct testimony.
This only matters if you think the timeline of when she made up the story matters. It's direct testimony that a story they can't validate has been told for years.
This framing is tremendously weak.

"She was married. I moved on her very heavily [...] I moved on her like a *****".
Your quoting is tremendously weak. Like, what does that [...] contain, hmm? Let's take a look:

"I moved on her very heavily, in fact I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said I'll show you where they have some nice furniture."

Oh, so then he must have assaulted her after the shopping, right?

"I moved on her, and I failed."

Sure sounds like a brutal assault to me. Immoral, sure, he was trying to seduce a married woman by his own account. Evidence of rape? Absolutely not.
 

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They provided a record only so far as it left open the possibility of Trump's DNA. The remainder of the report could have information that would prove it wasn't. We'll never know.
So... sheer speculation that they were perjuring themselves, then?

Cells that could be proven to be definitely from Trump would do that.
Hence why it'd have been beneficial to make a comparison, as Carroll's lawyers requested, and Trump's team refused for three years.

They never asked for a court order.
"You didn't force me to do the right thing, so therefore it doesn't reflect poorly on me that I didn't do the right thing". Remarkable.

This only matters if you think the timeline of when she made up the story matters.
When she first attested it happened does matter, because it undermines any narrative that she cooked it up for money or clout.

Your quoting is tremendously weak. Like, what does that [...] contain, hmm? Let's take a look:

"I moved on her very heavily, in fact I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said I'll show you where they have some nice furniture."

Oh, so then he must have assaulted her after the shopping, right?

"I moved on her, and I failed."

Sure sounds like a brutal assault to me. Immoral, sure, he was trying to seduce a married woman by his own account. Evidence of rape? Absolutely not.
I find it absolutely stunning that you think the context of it happening while furniture shopping somehow gives him some benefit. Because as we all know, sexual assault is impossible when shopping for furniture (!?!?)

I didn't say "brutal assault"-- this is that same tired old tactic of substituting the opponent's words for an exaggerated version that's more convenient to counterargue. See also, substituting "nobody was around" for "the entire department was neglected", and then making the latter sound unfeasible, even though you're the only one using that description. Most sexual assault does not involve brutal violence. A common approach is to heavily impose oneself on the other person, just try to push what you want onto them.


^ Look, no "brutal assault" here! All good! :)
 

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Ah right, here.

Edit: oh, for what it's worth, Blue Cross Blue Shield separates PBM responsibilities among 5 different companies, all of which are third-party.



Only the portion that is passed back to the insurer counts against the premium.

In this scenario the rebate is 800$. Say the PBM passes 600$ to the insurer and pockets 200$. The insurer does not then adjust its premiums to accommodate a 200$ cost; they adjust their premium to accommodate a 400$ cost.
That link doesn't go anywhere. Most Blue Cross's use Prime Therapeutics PBM and guess who owns that PBM.

I'm just saying all the money originated from people's premiums, the PBM didn't "make" any money.
 

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I am a data analyst/scientist and the import of H1Bs to my field is crashing my wages due to supply and demand, but if everyone made 200K this country wouldn't be a superpower we would be another Switzerland.
You would be one of the wealthiest, happiest, most democratic countries in the world? God forbid.
 

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When has an empire ever fallen because they were paying their workers too much?
The Song dynasty, and the Abbasid Caliphate.

For the Song Dynasty, it was a lot of people who had cushy jobs kind of like our white-collar jobs of today, and they got destroyed by the Mongols.

For the Abbasid Caliphate, it was again a bunch of people who had research jobs, and since they had those jobs the birthrate was low in Baghdad the capital, and they got destroyed by the Mongols.

If you want a modern example of an empire that has fallen I can give you two off the top of my head. The British, and the French today. They will one day be middling powers vs great powers and will have undeserved seats at the UNSC.

The British pay their workers well in a complete package in terms of healthcare plus salary added together. Their healthcare system is the most generous of all systems relative to the anglosphere. But they underfund their military, a good portion of the youth don't have jobs and live off the government, and to top it off because they have a good life expediency their pensioners got old, and undynamic as you do when you age and voted against their best interest permanently by leaving the EU which meant British consumption, and exports went down. The US despite Trump hasn't left NATO, still trades with Canada and Mexico despite his aggressiveness at getting better deals. So permanent damage was done in the UK, but not in the US however, if you want my reasoning the US has damage over time due to imperial decline due to many things including high wages. High wages mean a US NGAD fighter platform, submarine, carrier, and tank is better designed but more expensive, and China thus has the economic advantage however if China were to invade Taiwan right now they would lose even if it's a 1v1, but by 2050 that may change.

The French similarly are too benefits heavy. Their military likes to sit in vehicles while Russian military units get out of their vehicles in Africa vs French ones even though their portion of Africa supplies France with most of their fuel for their nuclear power plants. Guess which military West Africa likes more.

Of course even without my examples, and assuming I didn't know any of this. A lot of this is just logic. Empires get complicated and complacent. Bureaucracy/rules mean less efficiency.

I will even give you a personal example. My grandmother in China who I love told me in China the bigger the city the higher the quality of healthcare for even things as simple as family physicians. That sucks right. Not necessarily. It means you get what your economic value gives you. Whereas in the US even rural areas have similar high-quality healthcare workers which means more expenses across the board, and it adds with regards to opportunity cost. China puts its healthcare savings into R&D and infrastructure, and its military increasingly puts in the consumption of healthcare. It's cold logic but there is no such thing as a free lunch.
 
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You would be one of the wealthiest, happiest, most democratic countries in the world? God forbid.
No, I wouldn't be by consumption metrics, and that only holds through with the logic of everything else staying equal. China could charge rents for ships passing through their guarded sea lanes. China could make electronics more expensive via monopolies of rare Earth by pointing a military/geopolitical gun and saying your rare Earth Mine has to undergo Chinese joint control. Food costs could increase and food diversity could go down because again the US Navy guards it right now, but China would want either fees, a port, or some form of you only can buy stuff from me.

They won't do any of what the US navy does for free. Americans consume, and China charges a fee. As evident by their history.
 

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Like, if a rape takes place and based on patterns of behavior you think it's one particular guy, you still need to find some evidence to convict. But we aren't even in that situation, there's no evidence at all that a crime even took place.
Yes there is evidence, because the witness statements of those involved and any onlookers are evidence.

If person A says that they were sexually assaulted by person B and person B denies it, in the absence of any other information the working assumption that the sexual assault occurred is 50%. If you then add the context that person B is an inveterate liar, you would shift the odds in favour of person A's account being true. If person B has a history of boasting about and being accused of sexual assault, you would shift the odds in favour of person A's account being true.

This isn't a conviction requiring an evidential standard of beyond reasonable doubt. It's a civil case with an evidential standard of preponderance of the evidence.

"They let you" explicitly describes consensual activities.
If you stick a gun against someone's head and tell them to let you fuck them, they might let you. Do you consider that to be consent?
 

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I find it absolutely stunning that you think the context of it happening while furniture shopping somehow gives him some benefit. Because as we all know, sexual assault is impossible when shopping for furniture (!?!?)
You're interpreting "moved on her heavily" to be sexual assault. Then he tells you explicitly that his efforts to woo her were to take her furniture shopping. The furniture shopping is the "move on her heavily", and then she rejected him. He tried to buy her consent to sex with furniture and failed. And then you cut out that part because it undermined your argument.
If person A says that they were sexually assaulted by person B and person B denies it, in the absence of any other information the working assumption that the sexual assault occurred is 50%.
Oh, so if I claim Silvanus sexually assaulted me, and Silvanus denies it, you'd call that a coin flip?
 

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The Song dynasty, and the Abbasid Caliphate.

For the Song Dynasty, it was a lot of people who had cushy jobs kind of like our white-collar jobs of today, and they got destroyed by the Mongols.

For the Abbasid Caliphate, it was again a bunch of people who had research jobs, and since they had those jobs the birthrate was low in Baghdad the capital, and they got destroyed by the Mongols.
Sounds like the common factor was a Mongol empire out for conquest, not how they treated their citizens.

Some have argued the reason industrialization started in Scotland was because the salary for Scots was high enough that there was an economic incentive to develop technological solutions.

If you want a modern example of an empire that has fallen I can give you two off the top of my head. The British, and the French today. They will one day be middling powers vs great powers and will have undeserved seats at the UNSC.
The main reason they aren't empires today is because they gave up their colonies. If being an empire involves people living as subjects, not citizens, I'd say it's not worth it.
 

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For the Song Dynasty, it was a lot of people who had cushy jobs kind of like our white-collar jobs of today, and they got destroyed by the Mongols.
Isn't it more that they habitually distrusted their army, and made a very unwise decision not help stop the Mongols when they invaded their northern Jin counterpart.
 

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Here are some charming responses to news of a woman being shot by her ex-husband.

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The second one is from a guy who defended January 6 insurrectionists. Make of that what you will.

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The main reason they aren't empires today is because they gave up their colonies. If being an empire involves people living as subjects, not citizens, I'd say it's not worth it.
There were some big kerfuffles in the early to mid 20th century which weakened their powers as well, of course.
 
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That link doesn't go anywhere.
They work fine for me--



Most Blue Cross's use Prime Therapeutics PBM and guess who owns that PBM.
Prime Therapeutics is one of the five companies over which they have spread PBM responsibilities.

As for ownership... you're sort of right. It's joint-owned by a number of individual 'Blue' plans, not by the parent company.

The central point stands: majority of PBM roles for 'Blue' plans are third-party.

I'm just saying all the money originated from people's premiums, the PBM didn't "make" any money.
The rebate does not originate in premiums. It comes directly from the manufacturer.

You could say that if the entirety of the rebate was passed to the insurer (functioning as discount), then it came indirectly from premiums. But we've established that isn't the case.
 
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You're interpreting "moved on her heavily" to be sexual assault. Then he tells you explicitly that his efforts to woo her were to take her furniture shopping. The furniture shopping is the "move on her heavily", and then she rejected him. He tried to buy her consent to sex with furniture and failed. And then you cut out that part because it undermined your argument.
No, this is shameless mischaracterisation. The furniture shopping is not the end of that damn train. He says immediately afterwards that while furniture shopping, he "moved on her like a b****", and says he kisses women "without waiting".

And then you cut out that part because it undermined your argument.
 
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Huh, so that's why some ppl suddenly became weirdly aggressively passionate about eating out lol
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He has a bold and provocative writing style, having written articles such as, "How to Beat Your Girlfriend or Wife and Get Away with It". [4] Unsurprisingly, he and his views are very controversial, and he has been confronted in person on many occasions by Antifa. [7] [7] He is a staunch anti-feminist and was one of the original bloggers of the 'manosphere', before going public he ran the 'In Mala Fide' blog under the pseudonym 'Ferdinand Bardamu'[6].
Kinda like extra dimension of hate towards suicide squad noticeably exceeding the usual live-service disapproval. Bored bigots n wealthy racists coasting off the uninformed embittered grunts
 
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Huh, so that's why some ppl suddenly became weirdly aggressively passionate about eating out lol
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How absolutely beta cuck do you have to be in order to demand that someone else take care of your needs instead of taking care of them yourself? Cooking your own food is manly!
 
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No, this is shameless mischaracterisation. The furniture shopping is not the end of that damn train. He says immediately afterwards that while furniture shopping, he "moved on her like a b****", and says he kisses women "without waiting".
Maybe you don't know what words mean. When someone says "I did thing A, in fact I did thing B", the "thing B" is an extension beyond just A, to show you how thoroughly they did A. The furniture shopping was the thing B, the "that's how hard I was trying to make a move on her" part of the story.
 

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Maybe you don't know what words mean. When someone says "I did thing A, in fact I did thing B", the "thing B" is an extension beyond just A, to show you how thoroughly they did A. The furniture shopping was the thing B, the "that's how hard I was trying to make a move on her" part of the story.
Are you genuinely, genuinely, trying to convince us that someone saying "we went furniture shopping" is relevant context to the manner in which he approached her, but the same person immediately afterwards saying "I moved on her like a b*****" isn't relevant context to the manner in which he approached her?

That's what you're going with?