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This is called a conspiracy theory. "I don't have the evidence because they all conspired to cover it up!"
Riiiight, except as the rest of the post says, there are historical descriptions of these concepts and feelings that arose anyway. And we have mountains of evidence from the research in our current time.

I mean, this is why medical or scientific researchers don't simply rely on whether there are detailed descriptions of conditions etc from hundreds or thousands of years ago, to determine whether to take something seriously. Such an approach would be moronic: the opinions of people who thought leeches and trepanning were good medicine, or that humours and miasma explained illness, are unreliable. If we looked to historical opinion and ignored the modern research and the testimony of the people suffering, we'd have never identified 99% of conditions.
 
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I just want to drop one name in response to anyone who thinks that the idea of gender-fluidity is a recent phenomenon: Loki.
From a certain perspective, I'm arguing that only "gender-fluidity" existed. What didn't exist was the idea of gender as an innate characteristic, distinct from sex, outside of the individuals control, and capable of causing deep distress should it not match your physical body. There are many examples of people not conforming to strict gender binaries, and countless examples of people not conforming to specifically 20th century western gender binaries, what we don't see are millions of people killing themselves out of desire for the opposite sex's body.
 

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the internet saturation by and for capitalist interests that reward and benefits from enabling/growing reactionary far right movements knows no restraint and ironically no borders
Robert sits down with Irish author Padraig O Ruairc to discuss the growth of Ireland's far right anti-immigrant movement since COVID, and what can be done to stop it.

may require a semblance of vpn to play in UK, adding it to archive before algorithm coldly yanks it away from search again




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THEY CALL ME MR MILLION

A MILLION DOLLARS IN TAX LEINS
A MILLION DOLLARS TAKEN IN CROWDFUNDING MONEY
A MILLION EXCUSES FOR WHERE MY GAME IS OR ISN'T
A MILLION GALLONS LOST TO STELLAR BLADE
A MILLION OPINIONS ON WOKIES
A MILLION REASONS FOR YOU TO KEEP GIVING ME MONEY

Anyway this guy is a fraud and a habitual liar - I have more from that one stream but it would make this video 2 hours long

Also a note from me to clarify - gamesindustry.biz is a legit source usually it just didn’t have a lot of detail so I went with the destructoid stuff - didn’t mean to throw a stray that way

0:00 Intro
01:34 What This Video Isn't
02:01 lmao this guy livestreamed a meltdown
02:56 how much porn was there actually
05:59 it was multiple years ago
07:50 my mom ran my companies
08:30 my mom was also hot
09:28 the bus lmao
12:12 em8er - a brief timeline
19:02 em8er is still exactly the same as this
20:28 backers aren't taking it well
23:23 let's talk about that not for profit
28:33 the tax fraud stuff
31:20 this is the petty part
34:59 Informating Gathering & Credits
38:18 Offering an out
40:08 TL: DW
43:47 Credits
 
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There's not description of the symptoms lacking modern verbiage, no mysterious conditions we can retrospectively call transgenderism, it's just not there.
Transgenderism could result in all manner of thoughts and behaviours that were recognisable and reportable as something before transgenderism was understood. Some of these may have been characterised as what were considered at the time sexual perversions (homosexuality, cross-dressing) or mental health problems (psychosis, depression, etc.).

So it will have been for a vast number of conditions. The symptoms have always been out there and observed, it's just they were not recognised or classified correctly without understanding of the condition.

This is called a conspiracy theory. "I don't have the evidence because they all conspired to cover it up!"
The current administration of the USA has just canned a load of climate change research, ordered what may be a very iffy review of autism causes, and there's all sorts of back and forth about vaccines. Thus this is not a great time for you to try to laugh off someone suggesting that powers-that-be might doctor information to suit themselves.
 

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what we don't see are millions of people killing themselves out of desire for the opposite sex's body.
How would you be able to tell?

You can only ascribe suicide due to gender dysphoria once you have recognised gender dysphoria - and that means both recognising that gender dysphoria exists as a condition, and recognising that an individual has that condition.

Thus suicide due to distress from gender dysphoria would necessarily be hidden in the general suicide statistics until the discovery of gender dysphoria. You couldn't see it because the tools didn't exist to see it. It's absurd to argue that something only starts existing once you get the means to observe it.
 

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Mt. Everest was first discovered in 1852 by western explorers. Did it just spring into existence then? Or was it always there?
Neither: it still doesn't exist, because thousands of years of human history have no such accounts. If we all just agreed that it wasn't there, we'd be happier and safer. Just trust me.
 

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K, in which case your sample size is 1. Mufasa.

But I thought you were arguing against Trunkage's point about the box office in general.
There's been more than one Disney remake...

And I used this year's box office to show that just picking 10 sorta random movies isn't the best way to really show anything.

Yeah, as stated above. These number are including people that would not normally be classed as white. Hence me asking about Latinos
Again, I just used the 1st Google result... Just using the top 10 box office to prove or disprove representation isn't the best way to do so (hence, this year currently being inline). Also, I only said that the Disney remakes have been over-representative of minorities, not the entire movie industry.
 

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There's been more than one Disney remake...

And I used this year's box office to show that just picking 10 sorta random movies isn't the best way to really show anything.
So... you chose your own sample... to show how you can't show anything with it? While also trying to argue it shows minorities are overrepresented, based on one example?

Again, I just used the 1st Google result...
And we pointed out the problem with it.
 
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Disney is overdoing on the race/gender swaps, I don't know how you can argue against that.
Uhrm OK, well your own chosen sample doesn't show that. Even Mufasa doesn't count.

Which examples are you moaning about, then?
 

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Literally all the remakes...
Like Emma Watson as Belle? Angelina Jolie as Maleficient (or Elle Fanning as Sleeping Beauty, if you prefer)? Lily James as Cinderella (ok, had to google that one, but Cate Blanchett was the stepmother and that's the only thing I remember about it). Mia Wasikowska in the Alice films?

Actually, hang on, they cast Naomi Scott as Princess Jasmine in Aladdin, and she has Indian heritage playing an Arabian princess, so fair enough, that is a race swap. EDIT: Well, sorta. It's a race thingy at least.

(Also, I had to look up Disney live action remakes. Gah.)
 
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The discussion about how recent transgenderism is got me curious, and I ended up with Magnus Hirschfeld of the German Institut für Sexualwissenschaft who was a pioneer in the field of sexology, though primarily homosexuality. Sadly his work was not accessible to me on account of me not speaking German (and the fact that the Nazis burned a lot of the work Institut für Sexualwissenschaft did doesn't help matters) but his British colleague Havelock Ellis' work was. His 1928 work Studies in the Psychology of Sex: Volume 7 is available online. He coined the term Eonism for what we today would call transgenderism. It contains the following passage:
Studies in the Psychology of Sex: Volume 7 said:
If Eonism is a deeply rooted natural instinct, of which the possibilities are always latent, we should expect to find it wide-spread over the world among peoples of all stages of culture. We might also expect to find it emerging from time to time even among the general population. Both these expectations are fulfilled even with our present imperfect knowledge.
He then presents instances of Eonism from, to use his unfortunate wording, "lower races", while the paragraphs prior to the quoted passage presented various instances from western Europe. If they could see it even amongst people in the social contexts of pre-industrial society I think it's fair to say it is not something new.
 

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Like Emma Watson as Belle? Angelina Jolie as Maleficient (or Elle Fanning as Sleeping Beauty, if you prefer)? Lily James as Cinderella (ok, had to google that one, but Cate Blanchett was the stepmother and that's the only thing I remember about it). Mia Wasikowska in the Alice films?

Actually, hang on, they cast Naomi Scott as Princess Jasmine in Aladdin, and she has Indian heritage playing an Arabian princess, so fair enough, that is a race swap. EDIT: Well, sorta. It's a race thingy at least.

(Also, I had to look up Disney live action remakes. Gah.)
Not counting the animal movies or movies that already were minorities for obvious reasons.

-Cinderella - No swap
-Beauty and the Beast - No swap
-Peter Pan - Swap
-The Little Mermaid - Swap
-Snow White - Swap

In those 5 movies, you have minorities at 60% representation. If you include the other movies that already feature minorities (not counting animal movies obviously) like Aladdin, Jungle Book, and Mulan, that's 6 out of 8 movies starring minorities. If you add in the upcoming ones that have release dates like Lilo and Stitch and Moana, that's 8 out of 10 movies with minorities. Of course, it's not a criticism that the stuff like Aladdin or Mulan or Moana have minority stars. However, when you look at all the movies and do the representation percentages, white people are under-represented.
 
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