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somehow going to leave them top of the heap if the country/world collapses.
To be fair to the preppers, gold would likely retain a larger portion of it's value than most currencies in those kinds of scenarios. Probably less valuable than things like food or guns pound for pound, but you're less worried about weight and more worried about volume when packing your bunker and gold is quite dense. There's just not going to be a scenario in which rare, shiny metal things don't appeal to humans but lots of potential scenarios where fiat money becomes either just paper or some lost bits on a busted server somewhere. I actually understand preppers being crazy for gold much more than preppers liking crpyto.
 

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To be fair to the preppers, gold would likely retain a larger portion of it's value than most currencies in those kinds of scenarios.
In a full-on apocalypse, gold or currency is basically worthless. People who want food, water and houses couldn't give a shit about shiny, yellow metal.

Gold might be beneficial in a mere currency crash: the dollar collapses, they lose less (although gold will of course also heavily lose value in this scenario, because the dollar collapsing will substantially reduce demand for gold). Where I would question gold is whether it is an improvement over many other forms of storing value - like for instance... other currencies.
 
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Whilst no-one wants to help paedophiles (except paedophiles), I am increasingly concerned that people making loud noises about stopping paedophiles are more likely to be making excuses for taking away everyone's freedoms than actually stopping paedophiles.
 

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Whilst no-one wants to help paedophiles (except paedophiles)
Or people loyal to their group, which happens to include paedophiles. Any number of institutions will protect members that abuse children, and presumably not all the ones doing the protecting are themselves directly abusing kids.
 

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Just thought I'd add this in because I'm not sure anyone else has.

Milei, he of the chainsaw to hack back the state, has in ways pulled out the goods. Which is to say, he massively cut inflation, which is still high, albeit no longer catastrophically so. He did this by gutting the government and support systems, which loaded the vast majority of the economic pain on the people and especially the poor. Needless to say, he's taken an electoral kicking since his election in regional elections, because loads of Argentinians who thought he was going to solve the country's problems didn't appreciate him making them substantially poorer.

Many were singing his praises (mostly those of course being the people who don't give a shit about the little people taking the pain), and he's been widely lauded in the right as saviour of Argentina and vindication of libertarian shock tactics.

But now it seems he is the emperor's new clothes, because he's led Argentina into yet another full blown economic crisis. Most of his supporters have gone quiet. But the USA, remarkably, has decided to bail Argentina out. As noted, this seems to be nakedly political: the Trump administration propping up an ally who has so visibly failed, and thus indirectly their own reputations for lionising him and his programme.
 

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In a full-on apocalypse, gold or currency is basically worthless. People who want food, water and houses couldn't give a shit about shiny, yellow metal.
Inevitably you're going to reach a point where people need a medium of exchange to address the inadequacies of barter. At which point rare shiny yellow metal is valuable again for exactly the same reasons it was adopted for that purpose originally in the distant past. If you're worried about having apocalypse-proof money, when things start to recover precious metals is a safer bet than most alternatives. Long term shelf stable food is probably a close second, but precious metals are much denser and you're generally volume rather than weight limited in your bunker.
 

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Whilst no-one wants to help paedophiles (except paedophiles), I am increasingly concerned that people making loud noises about stopping paedophiles are more likely to be making excuses for taking away everyone's freedoms than actually stopping paedophiles.
Quiet, you. You don't want people to start calling you pro pedophile for criticizing them, do you?

Well. FAFO
 

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Going to a US Government website presents people with the following banner;

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Going to https://www.usda.gov will have it show up.

The Republicans are trying to blame their shutdown on "radical left democrats".
This is a golden marketing opportunity for the democratic party, but they'll probably squander it.
 

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The Republicans are trying to blame their shutdown on "radical left democrats".
This is a golden marketing opportunity for the democratic party, but they'll probably squander it.
Maybe.

The Democrats are ultimately the party causing an obstruction here (even if it is principled to defend healthcare), so I think that puts them at a disadvantage. On the other hand, I think even amongst many conservatives, even ones who voted for him, Trump is viewed as a major league arsehole.

I don't know that party PR actually shifts the dial very much on shutdowns. Basically, they'll probably wait a few weeks to see who's getting most of the blame in polls, and the side that's coming off worst will fold.
 

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(even if it is principled to defend healthcare),

I don't know that party PR actually shifts the dial very much on shutdowns. Basically, they'll probably wait a few weeks to see who's getting most of the blame in polls, and the side that's coming off worst will fold.
They're doing it because the believe that Republicans will come off worse. It is not principled to defend healthcare.
 

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Inevitably you're going to reach a point where people need a medium of exchange to address the inadequacies of barter. At which point rare shiny yellow metal is valuable again for exactly the same reasons it was adopted for that purpose originally in the distant past. If you're worried about having apocalypse-proof money, when things start to recover precious metals is a safer bet than most alternatives. Long term shelf stable food is probably a close second, but precious metals are much denser and you're generally volume rather than weight limited in your bunker.
Seems more prudent to horde the things that will actually get you through an apocalypse than to worry about what comes after.

Ammo is useful, shelf stable, and easy to barter.
 
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Seems more prudent to horde the things that will actually get you through an apocalypse than to worry about what comes after.

Ammo is useful, shelf stable, and easy to barter.
It also makes me think of a movie quote from Look Who's Talking Too. "You know, you people really amuse me, stockpiling your canned food and your water in case of disaster. But when the shit really hits the fan and you're sitting over here with your stuff, and the guy next door has a gun, who do you think is gonna go hungry? Him, or you?"
 

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They're doing it because the believe that Republicans will come off worse. It is not principled to defend healthcare.
A statement no doubt coming from a man without precarity in his healthcare provision.

It's also an incredibly lame claim. The Republicans could just increase the debt limit in a non-partisan fashion. "The bill proposes we increase the debt ceiling $2 trillion, no conditions attached, go vote". It would almost certainly pass. But it's your party attempting to extract political advantage in the first place that has caused the opposition.

But then this is typical of the new, whiny, victim culture, bleating your side has so enthusiastically embraced (even when you hold the executive, legislature and rigged the judiciary in your favour). The days when the right believed in taking responsibility are long, long dead.
 
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They're doing it because the believe that Republicans will come off worse. It is not principled to defend healthcare.
But who's fault is that? Even if we take the most cynical take its still Republicans who insists on having an at best very murky view on healthcare despite this not even being very popular or rational.