Funny events in anti-woke world

[tstorm823]

The issue is not the "declare a pandemic" part than the "started doing something". The fact you're concentrating on the wrong part tells me you're just doing that same old dishonest right-wing shill stuff or don't understand what's going on.

The WHO warned that Covid-19 was a major public health emergency towards the end of January 2020 - that was the trigger that should have moved action. Instead Donald Trump (and he wasn't the only offender) just told everyone it wasn't a problem and was just going to go away. All the warnings, all the risks, but it was the stock market that really made the decision, and thus Trump wasted weeks of preparation time.

The stock market had started tanking weeks before. Your argument is complete nonsense.

 

[Agema]

The stock market had started tanking weeks before. Your argument is complete nonsense.

More feeble lies.

March 16 stock market news | CNN Business

The US stock market started falling in late Feb, but not critically. However, the first major collapse was 9th March ("Black Monday 1", so named because there was an even bigger fall Monday 16th March, plus a Black Thursday on March 12th).

 

[tstorm823]

More feeble lies.

March 16 stock market news | CNN Business

The US stock market started falling in late Feb, but not critically. However, the first major collapse was 9th March ("Black Monday 1", so named because there was an even bigger fall Monday 16th March, plus a Black Thursday on March 12th).

Did you know that late February and early March are both weeks before March 17th?

 

[Silvanus]

Did you know that late February and early March are both weeks before March 17th?

January 30: WHO declares public health emergency of international concern.

February 24: Trump says the coronavirus is "very much under control in the USA... the stock market starting to look very good!"

February 26 & 27: Trump says coronavirus presents "very little problem", the risk to America is minimal, and that it'll disappear like a miracle.

March 7th: Trump says he's "not concerned at all".

March 9th: Black Monday on the stock market.

March 13th: Trump declares national emergency.

 

[tstorm823]

January 30: WHO declares public health emergency of international concern.

February 24: Trump says the coronavirus is "very much under control in the USA... the stock market starting to look very good!"

February 26 & 27: Trump says coronavirus presents "very little problem", the risk to America is minimal, and that it'll disappear like a miracle.

March 7th: Trump says he's "not concerned at all".

March 9th: Black Monday on the stock market.

March 13th: Trump declares national emergency.

CDC Museum COVID-19 Timeline

Moments in the COVID-19 pandemic from its known origins to today.

www.cdc.gov

 

[Schadrach]

A reminder: Musk is 54.

At least she's of age. It could be worse.

 

[Bedinsis]

Concludes whoever edited Wikipedia. Yet the DNVP itself was pursuing a venomously anti-Semitic agenda, and released a statement saying there was little meaningful difference in policy between them.

The German-language article is apparently considered Excellent. It has a section describing the views from multiple scholars, translated via Google Translate below:

Scholarly Reception
The significance of the Harzburg Front is assessed differently in historical scholarship. Political scientist Karl Dietrich Bracher calls the conference of October 1931 "much more the end of an exciting and exhausting collaboration than the beginning of a final triumphal march of the united 'National Opposition'."[56] According to Herbert Michaelis and Ernst Schraepler, the Harzburg conference merely proved "that an action initiated by Hugenberg to strengthen his own political position was exploited by Hitler for a propaganda success for his own purposes."[57] According to historian Friedrich Hiller von Gaertringen, it was "a fiction from its very inception due to the rivalry between its leaders."[58] Similarly, Joachim Fest concludes that the Harzburg Front is more a concept of political mythology than one of actual history. It was seen as a self-revelation of the conspiracy between Hitler and big business, that conspiracy theory which sees a “chain of sinister machinations” in the prehistory of the Third Reich.[59] Hans Mommsen described the event as a “demonstration of disunity.”[60] For Gerhard Schulz, it was merely an “attempt to form the National Opposition.”[61] For him, the most important aspect of Harzburg was not the cooperation between the two large anti-republican parties, but rather that the smaller right-wing parties, which used to channel the interests of business associations into parliament, were now beginning to slowly distance themselves from Brüning.[62] Larry Eugene Jones states as a result of the conference that “a unity of the right proved to be short-lived, if not illusory.” This division of the right in Germany continued until the establishment of the Nazi regime and beyond.[63] Historian Michael Schellhorn describes the Harzburg meeting as an “unsuccessful and pathetic” attempt by Hugenberg “to present a unity of the national opposition […]”, a “declaration of bankruptcy for Hugenberg’s policy of incorporating Hitler into his own power ambitions.”[64] Hitler biographer Brendan Simms describes the conference as a “complete failure, as each party tried to dominate and marginalize the others.”[65]

Others see the meeting as a continuation of the Nazi seizure of power on January 30, 1933. For Friedrich-Wilhelm Henning, it was “the first step towards the recognition of the NSDAP as a possible leading force in a right-wing Reich government.”[66] According to Hans-Ulrich Wehler, even though there was no further cooperation with the National Socialists until January 1933, the bourgeois right, through the Harzburg meeting, nevertheless contributed to making Hitler socially acceptable, so to speak.[67] The historian Joachim Perels summarizes that, even though there were "certain differences" between the National Socialists and their allies at the conference, the "Harzburg attack on the Republic," led by both, reached its goal a year and a half later with the formation of Hitler's government: "The positions of Harzburg form the cornerstones of the governmental power established by Hindenburg on January 30."[68] According to the historian Peter Schyga, the alliance of "mob and elite" (Hannah Arendt) was already forming in Harzburg, which from 1931 onward gained "daily in destructive energy and mass effectiveness": "The Bad Harzburg resolution formed the score for the march to dictatorship."[6]

 

[Trunkage]

CDC Museum COVID-19 Timeline

Moments in the COVID-19 pandemic from its known origins to today.

www.cdc.gov

More feeble lies.

March 16 stock market news | CNN Business

The US stock market started falling in late Feb, but not critically. However, the first major collapse was 9th March ("Black Monday 1", so named because there was an even bigger fall Monday 16th March, plus a Black Thursday on March 12th).

Usually, a country starts doing something to stop the spread of disease when a epidemic is called for their own country. Waiting for the WHO to call a pandemic is pointless. Some countries are still unaffected, and some are overwhelmed and should take measures based on their local situation. Of course, this doesn't matter if your country is lying about their pandemic status.

Yeah, the economy wasn't doing well before the March 7th speech. I personally would leave the word tanking for Black Monday as a comparison to how much damage it in comparison to before.

Lastly, I don't know if I agree with the claim that business made Trump react finally during 2020. Trump did more socialism in a 6mth span than all US presidents combined ever and was a highlight of his presidency. I don't know if business wanted him to do that. That being said, the last year has shown that he only follows big business when making laws and giving out benefits. I would definitely say that business stopped blocking Trump from doing things in 2020 and 2/3 of all the Pandemic benefits went to big business. So, I could be wrong on my stance on this claim

I hate how memory holed positive policies are in the US. MAGA does not want to admit that Trump actually did something for the common people. The Dems don't want to give Trump credit. Biden moved to the Green New Deal which mainly benefited big business instead of the common people. And Trump thinks it clearly was a mistake which is way he is targeting the common people so much this time round. All MSM (including Fox) are working in tandem to propagandise the masses. It's fucked up

 

[Agema]

CDC Museum COVID-19 Timeline

Moments in the COVID-19 pandemic from its known origins to today.

www.cdc.gov

What part of that disproves the point that Trump was twiddling his thumbs in the face of an oncoming crisis, up until the stock market made it impossible to avoid?

Lastly, I don't know if I agree with the claim that business made Trump react finally during 2020. Trump did more socialism in a 6mth span than all US presidents combined ever and was a highlight of his presidency I don't know if business wanted him to do that.

What on earth...?

Businesses love these sorts of handouts. The Covid crisis involved a major recession, and recessions really hurt businesses. Typical recession policies are likely: the government borrows and spends to mitigate the damage. Much of this is actually be automatic (e.g. people previously employed who lose their jobs start receiving unemployment benefits), but specific stimulus packages are frequently also used.

So if we take a look at the CARES Act (March 2020) that was over $2 trillion, of which:
$300 billion in direct payments to the public
$260 billion in additional unemployment benefits
$670 billion in small business funding
$500 billion in corporate loans
$340 billion to local governments

Therefore roughly twice as much was allocated to business than to the "common people". This isn't socialism: this is just pretty normal stimulus spending for recession.

 

[tstorm823]

What part of that disproves the point that Trump was twiddling his thumbs in the face of an oncoming crisis, up until the stock market made it impossible to avoid?

Every entry about US government actions between December and March. If you say Trump didn't personally do those things, I will slap you across the face. If you try to imply Trump impeded these efforts, I will simply laugh at you.

 

[Agema]

Every entry about US government actions between December and March.

Politicians don't deserve merit for inheriting government departments/agencies just like millionaires don't deserve merit for inheriting their parents' wealth.

 

[Trunkage]

Every entry about US government actions between December and March. If you say Trump didn't personally do those things, I will slap you across the face. If you try to imply Trump impeded these efforts, I will simply laugh at you.

Trump, like he does with every crisis, plays down the negatives. This leads to policies being delayed and watered down. He kept on saying Covid wasn't that bad which lead to policies that were ineffective or counterproductive.

Laugh if you want, it won't change reality. Many times, Trump did something.... that made everything worse. It would have been better if he did nothing

 

[Trunkage]

What on earth...?

Businesses love these sorts of handouts. The Covid crisis involved a major recession, and recessions really hurt businesses. Typical recession policies are likely: the government borrows and spends to mitigate the damage. Much of this is actually be automatic (e.g. people previously employed who lose their jobs start receiving unemployment benefits), but specific stimulus packages are frequently also used.

So if we take a look at the CARES Act (March 2020) that was over $2 trillion, of which:
$300 billion in direct payments to the public
$260 billion in additional unemployment benefits
$670 billion in small business funding
$500 billion in corporate loans
$340 billion to local governments

Therefore roughly twice as much was allocated to business than to the "common people". This isn't socialism: this is just pretty normal stimulus spending for recession.

Ah... this doesn't prove that big business pushed Trump into action. You can also read this as Trump bribing big business. Many times, including during Covid, in my country and yours, the handouts that were meant to go to the common people were actually going to big business. We needed to bribe big business so a trickle could go to the common people

I stated that this was more Socialism than any other US president before. You had people lifted out of poverty, decreased child hunger rate, greater unemployment benefits, more Medicare coverage, renter protections, increased food security. Most US presidents would balk at implementing any of these and it was not surprising that Biden took every one of these away.

You're comparing our Socialism to Trump's and its very true. It's not Socialism. And Trump has not followed up on this at all. That's not my comparison. I compare Trump to other US presidents who flee the term like it's the plague. They all have Socialism Derangement Syndrome. But it also tells you WHY some people thought they were better off under Trump than Biden

 

[Chimpzy]

January 6: A Date Which Will Live in Infamy

Discover the real January 6 story: peaceful protest turned tragedy, Deep State entrapment, media deception, and President Trump's triumphant pardons restoring justice to patriotic Americans.

www.whitehouse.gov

Two plus two equals five

 

[Agema]

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Honestly I don't think I have ever seen you write something so confused.

Pre-covid, the US economy was going through a period of sustained growth so Americans could feel themselves getting richer. Covid caused a major recession, but Trump can evade some blame in the public opinion because he obviously didn't cause the massive health crisis.

Biden has a major problem because of inflation: this is the combined result of Covid (which decreased global production so caused a shortage in supply of good) and Russia's invasion of Ukraine, which again caused a major supply shock. These in combination meant that although growth was similar to the Trump era, inflation eroded people's effective spending power more than growth increased it. And that's much of why Biden got the can.

As one economist I read put it, Covid had the unusual effect of ensuring not only that Trump lost in 2020, but also Harris in 2024.

None of this has anything to do with "socialism". The big stimulus checks throughout Covid weren't socialism: they're better thought of as Keynesian capitalism.

 

[tstorm823]

Politicians don't deserve merit for inheriting government departments/agencies just like millionaires don't deserve merit for inheriting their parents' wealth.

Face slap it is.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

January 6: A Date Which Will Live in Infamy

Discover the real January 6 story: peaceful protest turned tragedy, Deep State entrapment, media deception, and President Trump's triumphant pardons restoring justice to patriotic Americans.

www.whitehouse.gov

Two plus two equals five

The Ministry of Truth would blush.

 

[XsjadoBlaydette]

This was a little while ago so apologies if someone else already shared it and I missed it, or if I even shared it and forgotten completely lol - Some Zionist "journalist" lady tried to parody John Oliver after he mocked her work, and look hey if you're parodying an experienced comedian, the basic bar you need to clear is wit and skill otherwise what's the point if you can't present example of what people are missing?

So anyway, let's see how that goes...


It's difficult to find a source of the video itself due to their deleting of it from assumedly shame. Also I didn't realise she was trying to do a British accent till near the end where was like "why is she pronouncing that word so weird? Oh...oh?...ohhhhhh!" lol


Oh, this Trump Jr - Maria Corina (far right opposition in Venezuela boasting about loving trump, his murders and selling out her country to corporations) was wildly difficult to get search engines to find and Google's AI literally tried to say it didn't exist lmao, which is kinda mysterious but oh well, it's really worth watching to see her ecstatic glee at letting American corpos strip her own country and people of their local resources. She's got a real what-if-the-heath-ledger-joker-was-a-woman-and-CIA-asset energy

 

[XsjadoBlaydette]

Too late to edit this in previous post, but the "Chevron Doctrine" lil baby cokehead trump was boasting about daddy killing off at the end of that interview is one of those underexposed serious laws to have removed for many reasons perhaps not simple enough to explain to average Joe American I guess

Elie Mystal, justice correspondent at The Nation, discusses the oral arguments that took place at the Supreme Court last week for Loper Bright Enterprises v. Raimondo.

https://twitter.com/ElieNYC?ref_src=t...

https://www.thenation.com/authors/eli...

Elie Mystal then dives right into the history of SCOTUS’ Chevron Doctrine, with the right championing in the 1980s as Reagan attempted to use his cabinet to cripple the relatively nascent administrative state, and the unanimous decision by the Court to delegate the reading of administrative law to the experts in the agencies, rather than allowing for themselves and lower court judges to dictate the meaning of all legislation. After briefly running through this decision’s relationship to the budding institution of the modern administrative state, and why – despite the conservative origin of the case – it is hugely important for the functioning of government and democracy as a whole, Mystal tackles the massive role the Chevron Doctrine has played since it was established in 1984, deciding some 17,000 cases, and the complete legal chaos that would be caused by overturning it.

Chevron U.S.A., Inc. v. Natural Resources Defense Council, Inc. - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Ooh just enough time to squeeze in more value!

Hi. Happy New Year! We've really got to pad for time this early in the year, so instead of "the news," here's an episode about a bunch of dumb podcasting dips.

Chapters:
0:00 - Introduction
2:31 - Chris Cuomo - Dumb Guy
32:34 - Jubilee’s Surrounded's Patrick Bet-David
44:15 - Another Surrounded Weirdo
55:54 - A Government Of Podcasters

 

[Casual Shinji]

January 6: A Date Which Will Live in Infamy

Discover the real January 6 story: peaceful protest turned tragedy, Deep State entrapment, media deception, and President Trump's triumphant pardons restoring justice to patriotic Americans.

www.whitehouse.gov

Two plus two equals five