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EMTs and medical personnel are also not random civilians. But then, expecting anything but "us" and "not us" from ICE is giving them too much credit.
By my understanding, the people ICE was trying to keep away were random civilians, and the ambulance was slow to arrive because they had difficulty navigating the crowd and chaos.
 

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By my understanding, the people ICE was trying to keep away were random civilians, and the ambulance was slow to arrive because they had difficulty navigating the crowd and chaos.
Of course if they had kept their trigger happy mate in check or just have real code of conducts there’d have been no need for any of it.

And given the lack of professionalism in ICE, as well as the polarization they create they likely caused the protests and chaos
 

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EMTs and medical personnel are also not random civilians. But then, expecting anything but "us" and "not us" from ICE is giving them too much credit.
Ah, I was thinking of the reports of them keeping away someone who declared themselves as a doctor. But yeah, paramedics and so on, obviously another story.
 

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Of course if they had kept their trigger happy mate in check or just have real code of conducts there’d have been no need for any of it.

And given the lack of professionalism in ICE, as well as the polarization they create they likely caused the protests and chaos
And that justifies spreading rumors that they were turning away medical services?
 

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Can someone with more ties to Iran than I make a thread about Iran? I don't have many Iranian friends or associates.
 

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I don't know what this is in response to. It doesn't seem to relate to anything said in the post before.



Not going to last. To last. That is not the same as saying it doesn't exist.



Oh, I love it when you do this-- accidentally present a source that substantiates what I'm saying!

So, as your own quote shows, the "infectious dose" varies hugely by pathogen. And if we read on a bit, we see that the "infectious dose" is on the low side for both Covid-19 and "common cold" coronaviruses:

"These studies suggest that one reason the virus is so easily transmissible is because it has a relatively low infectious dose, similar to other respiratory viruses such as RSV and “common cold” coronaviruses (and lower than the infectious dose of most strains of influenza virus)."

"it’s theoretically possible to get a dose large enough to start an infection in just a minute of close contact".

And it links to the pubmed article that shows the estimated infectious dose for "common cold" coronaviruses and rhinoviruses is very, very low-- from 0.032 TCID-50 to 13 TCID-50. For context, that's easily low enough to be carried in a few coughs or breaths.




No: all this proves is that a vaccination effort won't render outbreaks impossible. Which is bloody obvious and isn't what we're discussing.



Not what you argued.
Literally in reference to the very thing you just said "not going to last". You don't have to say a vaccine provides basic temporary protection because it's literally basic common sense. Also, when people ask about vaccine protections, they aren't talking about protections just for a month, they are talking about years and all the way up to a lifetime.

The common cold is so easily transmissible because it's airborne... Of course it's, in theory, possible to catch a cold in just a minute of close contact. In theory and actual real world results are usually 2 different things. You simply don't catch colds from going to the store in any significant manner. And then people during covid were wiping down groceries and stuff, it's was completely nonsensical because people are irrational when they're afraid.

This was broadcast on CNN...


No, vaccination has no chance of stopping outbreaks at all. Even if you literally vaccinated every person in the world at the same time and made it so everyone had a month of immunity all at the same time, covid still would've been around and had outbreaks (because it was in animal reservoirs as well). Vaccination (in covid) is only to suppress severe disease and nothing else.

It is...

It would be really cool if you would stop making up what your opponenets thinks vaccines etc do. All you do is waste everyones time, especially yours as you yell at clouds thinking that its a person
It would really be cool if you would stop making up stuff and then purposefully not responding when I prove you wrong. You literally just said it was because Trump didn't want to do anything about covid is why the US "let covid in" when it was both the sides saying not to worry about covid, yet you ignore that because it doesn't agree with your political narrative.
 

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What an odd thing for two completely innocent things to do.
Well, not that I have much affection for the Clintons, but I do sympathise with them here.

Testifying before Congress is theatre. It's for Representatives and Senators to grandstand and seem important, not to serve any useful function. If I were about 80 years old I'd decline to set myself up as the sacrificial victim for some malignant political wanker to distract the public from the current president's sins.
 

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In recent years the democratic world saw three right wing to far right coups against their own nations. We saw it in the US, in Brazil and most recently in Korea. Its always been frustrating to see America, supposedly the greatest democracy of the three be the only one who refused to punish the traitor.

In Brazil Bolsonaro is set to be jailed for years, and today Korea announced they'd do the most logical reaction to high treason and try for the death penalty. The US did neither and instead insisted on rewarding their traitor with another presidency, and chances to unleash brownshirts on civilians, and betray Europe.

Had the US emulated either of their peers the world wouldn't be in this situation. Why was it so easy for those two states to punish their traitors for coups, but so hard for the supposed greatest democracy on earth?
 

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Well, not that I have much affection for the Clintons, but I do sympathise with them here.

Testifying before Congress is theatre. It's for Representatives and Senators to grandstand and seem important, not to serve any useful function. If I were about 80 years old I'd decline to set myself up as the sacrificial victim for some malignant political wanker to distract the public from the current president's sins.
Yes, I know, it's just more distraction/deflection with a side of Taking Revenge Under Mantle of Politics.
 

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In recent years the democratic world saw three right wing to far right coups against their own nations. We saw it in the US, in Brazil and most recently in Korea. Its always been frustrating to see America, supposedly the greatest democracy of the three be the only one who refused to punish the traitor.
You're mistaking propaganda for reality

The US was the first democracy in the modern era. It has never really been the greatest
 

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The US was the first democracy in the modern era
Even that is dubious. There are quite a number of city states who could lay a claim on that. Also Switzerland.

But sure, you could twist your definition of "real" democracy until the US is the first. As is occasionally done.
 

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You're mistaking propaganda for reality

The US was the first democracy in the modern era. It has never really been the greatest
Oh I'm aware. That's why I said ''supposed''. But even a purely self appointed title should give some incentive to live up to it.
 

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The US was the first democracy in the modern era.
That's not so clear.

For instance, some European countries (e.g. UK, Sweden) were by this time constitutional monarchies which where the parliament had effectively taken primacy in national governance and thus could be considered substantially democratic. Obviously they had limited franchise, but that was also true of the USA. What you can much more readily defend is that the USA was the first modern democratic republic.
 

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Apparently this bloke is MAGAs fave journalist right now. Did that viral video that started the whole somali daycare fraud thing.

Interesting. They're speaking the same language and yet there is a language barrier.


But that is just a bit of pissfull protest. What are these snowflakes complaining about?
 
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"Papers? Do you haff your papers? Your papers, please...."


Yeah funny story. Back in around 2015 or 2016 after there'd been some moving and shaking and Australia stood up the Australian Border Force they did this exact thing in Melbourne and it remains one of the most stupid institutional embarrassments by any government department in my memory. Mind you, to my knowledge, none of the ABF officers who did that were armed with rifles nor wearing masks.