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Fucking hell this will do next to nothing. Use Linux instead of windows, buy less of (insert war-enabling US tech company tech products). But apparently that's too hard and inconvenient. Let's bother random local officials.
 

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But apparently that's too hard and inconvenient. Let's bother random local officials.
Small groups of people will have greater impact doing the latter than the former, though of course it is quite possible to do both at once.
 

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Small groups of people will have greater impact doing the latter than the former, though of course it is quite possible to do both at once.
No it's not. Don't you know that there is only one thing anyone can ever do as a protest? If someone is doing something, they are clearly only doing that thing. It's just not possible that someone could go out protesting AND write to their local politicians AND do appropriate boycotts (that don't actually do anything because for every person who actually sticks to a boycott there are 10 that don't).
 

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No it's not. Don't you know that there is only one thing anyone can ever do as a protest? If someone is doing something, they are clearly only doing that thing. It's just not possible that someone could go out protesting AND write to their local politicians AND do appropriate boycotts (that don't actually do anything because for every person who actually sticks to a boycott there are 10 that don't).
oh.

my mistake.
 

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Sure, but he also isn't Trump. Even if Trump dies, Vance doesn't necessarily inherit Trump's cult, without which he may have far less leverage over his party and be forced to bargain more. Plus that the Democrats are very likely to retake the House and maybe the Senate, which would allow them to impose limits, which even despite their lily-livered, half-hearted pseudo-opposition is not nothing either
He might not have the cult but the unconditional backing of the ultra rich might end up being more valluable. They can just brute force Vance on the world especially since public sentiment will be less of a factor the further project 2025 goes.
 

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He might not have the cult but the unconditional backing of the ultra rich might end up being more valluable. They can just brute force Vance on the world especially since public sentiment will be less of a factor the further project 2025 goes.
Yes, but what do the ultra-rich actually want?

For instance, I imagine most of them don't want a political schism between the USA and EU.

US tech dominance is a threat to the world. If the US President orders Microsoft to turn off all its services to Germany, it will utterly screw Germany. Think MS won't comply? It will. It's headquartered in the USA, its top brass are in the USA, it's key operations are in the USA and they may protest and try to resist, but ultimately when push comes to shove they'll do what they're told. The less Europe trusts the USA, the more Europe is going to ensure critical systems are not in the control of US multinationals which put them at the mercy of crazy American presidents.

If I remember an article rightly, the US government has already insisted that its tech firms hand over communications from European politicians it believes act against US interests. Legitimate, supposedly private communications, because US tech firms run the platforms (like Outlook) they operate on. Some European countries (e.g. Austria, France) are already moving operations off US-owned systems.

They will do things like send Vance to try to coerce Europe into more US tech dominance. US tech dominance is bad on any number of levels, but almost certainly it means things like suggesting the USA keep Europe sweet in ways... like maybe backing Ukraine against Russia.
 

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Yes, but what do the ultra-rich actually want?
The ultra rich might be selfish and greedy but many of them prove again and again that they are not all that smart or insightful. And they tend to have an oversized ego.

Someone like Musk might not want a political schism between the USA and EU but can contribute to it anyway.

A lot of the ultra-rich in the US are very much in favor of the US strongarming and exploiting the world as the incluence they have in the US means they can do that themself by proxy. Thus we get the US trying to force the EU to give up consumer protection and privacy laws and similar moves very much annoying foreign populances.
 

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Yes, but what do the ultra-rich actually want?

For instance, I imagine most of them don't want a political schism between the USA and EU.

US tech dominance is a threat to the world. If the US President orders Microsoft to turn off all its services to Germany, it will utterly screw Germany. Think MS won't comply? It will. It's headquartered in the USA, its top brass are in the USA, it's key operations are in the USA and they may protest and try to resist, but ultimately when push comes to shove they'll do what they're told. The less Europe trusts the USA, the more Europe is going to ensure critical systems are not in the control of US multinationals which put them at the mercy of crazy American presidents.

If I remember an article rightly, the US government has already insisted that its tech firms hand over communications from European politicians it believes act against US interests. Legitimate, supposedly private communications, because US tech firms run the platforms (like Outlook) they operate on. Some European countries (e.g. Austria, France) are already moving operations off US-owned systems.

They will do things like send Vance to try to coerce Europe into more US tech dominance. US tech dominance is bad on any number of levels, but almost certainly it means things like suggesting the USA keep Europe sweet in ways... like maybe backing Ukraine against Russia.
While I don't think they want a complete break between the two I do think most rich executives want Europe humbled, weakened and giving the message that protection for the citizens or limits put on corporations by governments just are not acceptable anymore in this day and age. The largest of them , Vance's mentor Thiel first among them are also pretty open that they are done with rule based democracy and would rather have Russian style barbarism or tech feudalism. And as the vanguard of rule based democracy Europe needs to be 'fixed'.

Even without the extremists and freaks , shared hostility to EU or just national European regulations already makes the ultra rich and MAGA dangerous bedflowers.
 

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What could possibly go wrong? Don't look at any of the news! Throughout history!


Hi. On today's episode of Some More News, we look at how your local police department gradually became militarized, and how that's bad.

Chapters
0:00 - Introduction
3:37 - How Cops Became Soldiers… But Worse!
6:52 - It’s All Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan’s Fault
26:37 - It’s All 9/11’s Fault
43:35 - It’s All 2020’s Fault
57:22 - It’s All Capitalism’s Fault

Ethical slop


Ok haven't watched this one yet, just throwing it in to appease the ancient ones' triumvirate ritual code
 

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Fucking hell, how far will he escalate.
Depends. He is emotionally unstable, cruel and vindictive. If things go badly and he feels sufficiently frustrated, diminished, and criticised, he might throw a hissy fit and turn to extreme punishment.

I suspect that's approximately what happened on Jan 6th 2021. He got himself into a colossal rage/sulk and sat in front of the TV enjoying the mob attacking the Capitol rather than realising he needed to step in and sort it out.
 

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Alternatively, though not mutually exclusively, people have been distracted by the impending threat of WW3 and aren't talking so much about the Epstein list, so a win for him there.
 

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No it's not. Don't you know that there is only one thing anyone can ever do as a protest? If someone is doing something, they are clearly only doing that thing. It's just not possible that someone could go out protesting AND write to their local politicians AND do appropriate boycotts (that don't actually do anything because for every person who actually sticks to a boycott there are 10 that don't).
Small groups of people will have greater impact doing the latter than the former, though of course it is quite possible to do both at once.

They seldom hit this amount in the US. For example, when I protested with BLM, the BLM protests did, and it freaked out corporate America, and even the Trump administration, to force them to be more inclusive.

Now the protests are clown shows that keep pandering and being led by the PSL an anti-American political org that thinks the DSA is too moderate, which scares moderates and many liberals from attending. Even with that many liberals did attend but, the No Kings protests couldn't hit 3%.
 

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XsjadoBlayde

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This is pure gold. Though fans of the Dresden files may feel the more acute cringe response



Sex criminal (check!) in Israel/south Africa (check!)



Ok. Tnx for the reminder
Who could argue with the sheer raw compassion of a 1950s robot


Damn! We went from distracting from Epstein by starting a war with Iran, to going back to Epstein to distract from the war with Iran!

Peak comedy
No worries, there'll soon be a "war" (if that's what everyone's calling endless war crimes against nations showing no aggression to America and the west) with Cuba to distract from all that too
 
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