What is wrong with treating gay characters the same? Write the story and the characters as if they were any other characters in any other story and they just so happen to be gay. If you treat it as normal and not some special fanfare then the audience will also treat it as normal and graduallt become more accepting irl. Seems like a good plan.
I agree. Now if only the wider audience could treat gay characters the same, and not see it as evidence of "the gay agenda" every time...
Don't say you didn't ask for it
So it's a producer's personal twitter?
This seems like the equivalent of The Force is Female. It's a statement from Kathleen Kennedy, but one made independently from LucasFilm.
No, unless said trait is all the character is or they turn into a stereotype of that trait.
I agree, but that's more in the realm of bad writing than anything else. And most of the articles on this thread aren't examples of that.
Didn't even Bri Larson walk back those comments a bit eventually when she realised how she'd come off?
Maybe, maybe not, it's academic. The vitriol of the comments was disproportionate to the comments themselves. And are people really so fragile that they Larson saying that is what triggers them, as opposed to actual, directed harassment of other people?
No they're mostly pointing out those trying to deflect and pulling up aid characteristics time and time again to try and frame all the criticism as being about that rather than what was actually said.
It's a verified fact that Tran was hounded off social media, and I personally took part in reverting edits on Wookiepedia that used "*****" as a word to describe her.
It's not some conspiracy for racists and sexists to be racist and sexist. Not even when the rumour started that all of it was a false flag by Disney.
Except didn't people check and there was barely anything other than obvious trolls going after Rose Tico?
Yeah, no. They weren't trolls. Not any more than it was 'trolls' who went after John Boyega for instance.
Geeks and Gamers, for instance, isn't a troll, because the crap he puts out on his show is the same crap he speaks off-camera.
Because they merely produce a statement and expect people to agree with it.
The Future is Female now as the resistance leader is no longer John Connor.
The Force is Female now because Kathrine Kennedy said so and so Finn gets sidelined.
Ghostbusters 2016 - Girls can do it too see we can do it now, it's our franchise now.
Who's "they?" Because as I already explained, "the Force is Female" didn't come from Disney.
Also, as to your actual examples:
-Terminator: More like "a" future is female. I'll throw you a bone and point out that yes, Dark Fate does bring up the difference between Dani being the leader of the Resistance, vs. Sarah being the mother of the male leader of the Resistance. However, if people are so fragile about female Resistance leaders, where was the outrage in T3, when it was revealed that John died, and Kate basically became de facto leader? Where was the outrage in SCC, when after John travels to the future, he finds that the Resistance formed anyway? Where was the outrage in the comics, where in one storyline, timeline shifts result in Jane Connor being born instead? I can give you my personal thoughts on each of these things, but they're nothing to do with my manhood. I'm not so precious that if a female becomes leader of a role that was previously male's, I have a meltdown.
-Star Wars: Oh, NOW you care about Finn being sidelined. Funny how people took one look at Finn in The Force Awakened trailer and went berserk that there was a black stormtrooper. But again, The Force is Female IS NOT A DISNEY STATEMENT. It's a statement Kathleen Kennedy made on her own time. And if we are talking about Finn, Finn was never in a position of leadership. If the Force is female, why is Poe leading the Resistance in Episode IX? Why is Lando leading the galaxy in the same episode? Why is Ben leading the First Order, and Palpy the Final Order? Because if we're talking about leadership, men are still the ones calling the shots in Star Wars. Now, personally, I don't think that's an issue, any more than Mon Motha/Leia/Holdo leading the Rebellion/Resistance was an issue, but if we're playing this stupid game, then at least play it properly.
Ghostbusters 2016: Yes, girls CAN be ghostbusters, despite the arguments of some that as females, they shouldn't have the strength to use proton packs. This shouldn't even be an issue. Remember Kylie? Remember when Janine used the pack in at least one episode? No-one complained then. But when we have a team of ghostbusters in a different continuity (which is at least the third Ghostbusters continuity), oh, THAT'S when people get angry. "Yes, ghostbusters can be female, but we can't have too many of them."
If I sound angry, it's because I am, because these ideas are so asinine, and writing them, I'm struck as to how easily you could flip them over and claim that the same IPs are sexist against women, and I wouldn't agree with that either. If Ghostbusters 2016 is sexist against men, why isn't Ghostbusters Vanilla sexist against women? If Star Wars Ep. 7-9 are seixst against men, why aren't the original and prequel trilogies sexist against women? The answer is that they aren't, but that's the game crazies play.
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