Furry Morality Question

[KimonoBoxFox]

This is not something that society should be tolerant about though. We should not accept rampant genetic modification as a good thing. And there's a world of difference between a botox treatment and becoming a hybrid. The difference being that one is altering a person on the genetic level.

Actually, the comparison is between genetic alteration, and injecting yourself with Botulin toxins, dear. It's the same risk, just different mediums of medical science--toxicology versus genetics.

 

[Ryengu]

like would being part dolphin let you breathe under water?

Minor quibble, but dolphins can't breathe underwater :B They can just hold their breath a reaaalllyy long time.

 

[DanDeFool]

Somehow, I think there would be discrimination even within the furrified faction. After all, if you got your genes spliced with, say, a tortoise, or an iguana, that would definitely be a much bigger change than getting spliced with some kind of mammal's genome. I can imagine there being a great deal of infighting between the lizard-people and the non-primate-mammal people.

Or do reptilian hybrids not count as "furries", on account of the fact that they're not "furry"? I don't really get how broadly furdom is supposed to be defined.

 

[Spade Lead]

Absolutely disgusting. There is already a huge social inequality gap in the developed world. Something like this would only serve to widen it even further. People would be denied opportunities becuase they could not afford to purchase this serum. People would be incapable of doing as much as those who were fortunate enough to get the wealth needed to acquire it. Some people will merely use the serum to make up for their own lack of effort. Such a thing will only bring problems to our society, and thus must not be used.

As for it turning people into an animal human hybrid, that just makes a bad thing even worse. Hybrids brought about through the manipulation of genes should not be allowed in society. It would lead to a ton of discrimination from both sides. Humans would resent them for being "unnatural", while hybrids would view themselves as the superior species due to their genetic modifications. This would cause a ton of problems, obviously.

It seems that you have put more thought into this than most of the people in this thread (Who I would put money on couldn't afford the serum if it was invented anyway). That said, I agree with you. It would also start another cold war, as the first world countries gave it to their soldiers and then ran rough-shod over the under-developed countries in any conflict that came up.

Plus, imagine what would happen to the Wolf-Soldiers when the got into an adrenaline fueled rage. Remember the Battlefields of Vietnam, where American soldiers slaughtered whole villages? That would be the norm, not the exception...

No, "I cannot condone a course of action that will lead my people to war."

 

[JoshuaMadoc]

I've heard so much anti-furry sentiment out of internet users that I just wonder if they're actually serious about throwing ordinance at real hybrids.

 

[Vidi Kitty]

And I have yet to see any furry art that was not intended to arouse someone.

Stop looking for porn then.

EDIT: Best 100th post ever.

I don't, but that does not prevent some furries I have agrued with to post it in response.

And I have yet to see any furry art that was not intended to arouse someone.

Then I can honestly say you haven't been looking very closely. Sorry.

Perhaps. However, I don't frequently google "Yiff", so that could be the issue here.

Googling that will only ever pop up one type of art. I'm calling it. Troll.

 

[keve4433]

Yes, yes I would. I wouldn't give it a second thought.

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

You really are nothing but a racist who can't see they way others do and can't agree with or even put up with the thought of someone choosing to be so drastically different.

Wait, you are serious?

Spoiler

Racist? Come on.
Next you are going to be comparing us to Nazis. And before you do, making fun of someone who likes a drawing of two animal-people getting it on is not in any way comparable to the crimes of the Third Reich.

If you hate something that you don't understand, and the people that fall into that category then yes you are a racist

Couldn't have put it better. Also if I were going to compare you people to Nazis, I might mention how you expect people to fall in like with your thinking even though it is extremely against a certain group just because you think you are right >.>

I don't deny that furries have a right to be furries. They do. They have the right to draw what they want, write what they want, speek what they want, ect.

However, furries are not the only ones with these rights. They have every right to write bad fanfiction, and I have every right to call it stupid.

All bad fan fiction is stupid. And everyone has the right to like and dislike as they please. I just drawn the line at people being willfully ignorant (not you specifically) and trying to force their opinions on others.

My point is that they want to express themselves. Which is fine.
But when I want to do the same? "Fursicution!"

And this is becoming derailed. Fast.

As I said before, this would change species, not race. Besides, if you CHOOSE to be something (which the first generation of these groups would have had to been) it is justified to judge them.
Fun fact: Adults do that in the real world all the time (judge people by actions and choices)

Googling that will only ever pop up one type of art. I'm calling it. Troll.

Right. Because I disagree with you I must be a troll.
My friend, you are only proving what I thought about furries all along.

 

[CptJackRabbit]

"It's completley unnecessary and highly disturbing that people would so freely altar their bodies in drastic ways over such trivial issues."

I question this statement. Do you already pass judgement on tattoos and piercings.. specifically the more extreme ones, or elf ear surgery, or split tongue surgery?

Next you are going to be comparing us to Nazis. And before you do, making fun of someone who likes a drawing of two animal-people getting it on is not in any way comparable to the crimes of the Third Reich.

I agree... that would be a bit of an overboard claim.

Wait wait wait. No matter how you might change your physical apearance or your species or whatever, you will still be a person.

You sir, are a racist for thinking that becoming something other than human suddenly makes you less of a person.

Except in this case it does. You're taking in animal characteristics for no reason other than "I wanna be different". It's completley unnecessary and highly disturbing that people would so freely altar their bodies in drastic ways over such trivial issues. And no, pointing this out doesn't make me a racist.

Also, furries are a group, not a race, no matter how much they wanna be.

 

[Vidi Kitty]

Somehow, I think there would be discrimination even within the furrified faction. After all, if you got your genes spliced with, say, a tortoise, or an iguana, that would definitely be a much bigger change than getting spliced with some kind of mammal's genome. I can imagine there being a great deal of infighting between the lizard-people and the non-primate-mammal people.

Or do reptilian hybrids not count as "furries", on account of the fact that they're not "furry"? I don't really get how broadly furdom is supposed to be defined.

Furry is just the general name. If you want specifics, lizard people would be scalies.

 

[Internet Kraken]

This is not something that society should be tolerant about though. We should not accept rampant genetic modification as a good thing. And there's a world of difference between a botox treatment and becoming a hybrid. The difference being that one is altering a person on the genetic level.

Actually, the comparison is between genetic alteration, and injecting yourself with Botulin toxins, dear. It's the same risk, just different mediums of medical science--toxicology versus genetics.

And genetic modification is a million times more dangerous. What's your point? You can't use botox to turn yourself into perfect murder.

"It's completley unnecessary and highly disturbing that people would so freely altar their bodies in drastic ways over such trivial issues."

I question this statement. Do you already pass judgement on tattoos and piercings.. specifically the more extreme ones, or elf ear surgery, or split tongue surgery?

Well I'll admit I personally don't care for such things, but this is nowhere near the level of modification that becoming a hybrid would be. I am in general opposed to most genetic modification becuase it a slipper slope that could easily lead to serious problems.

 

[Ryengu]

Perhaps. However, I don't frequently google "Yiff", so that could be the issue here.

Just check out an art site like dA, there's a whole section for anthro art. And dA has a standing no porn policy, so you shouldn't have to worry about anything unless the mod's haven't zapped it yet. Here's a link for you. http://browse.deviantart.com/anthro/

 

[lacktheknack]

Sure. I don't see the issue with being half-animal. Especially if it's something like half-wolf or half-lion or such.

BEFORE THE PRACTICAL THINKERS DIVEBOMB ME: One of humanity's biggest mistakes would be to give people comic-book superpowers, but I bet that's never stopped you from daydreaming about them. Same concept applies here, there's nothing wrong with some interesting and fun speculation on subjects that are not going to ever happen.

 

[Redlin5_v1legacy]

Nope. Humanity is too important to me. Sure, I'll be left behind in the dust but hey, I'm comfortable with my body and I don't want to pay for alterations I don't want/need.

...

Although cat ears and a tail would be nice.

NO, BAD REDLIN! THAT WEAKENS YOUR PREVIOUS STATEMENT!

*swats self with newspaper*

 

[Internet Kraken]

Perhaps. However, I don't frequently google "Yiff", so that could be the issue here.

Just check out an art site like dA, there's a whole section for anthro art. And dA has a standing no porn policy, so you shouldn't have to worry about anything unless the mod's haven't zapped it yet. Here's a link for you. http://browse.deviantart.com/anthro/

AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAH

Sorry, but deviant arts "no porn" policy is about as legitimate as China's human rights. Deviant Art is flooded with porn.

 

[artanis_neravar]

You really are nothing but a racist who can't see they way others do and can't agree with or even put up with the thought of someone choosing to be so drastically different.

Wait, you are serious?

Spoiler

Racist? Come on.
Next you are going to be comparing us to Nazis. And before you do, making fun of someone who likes a drawing of two animal-people getting it on is not in any way comparable to the crimes of the Third Reich.

If you hate something that you don't understand, and the people that fall into that category then yes you are a racist

Couldn't have put it better. Also if I were going to compare you people to Nazis, I might mention how you expect people to fall in like with your thinking even though it is extremely against a certain group just because you think you are right >.>

I don't deny that furries have a right to be furries. They do. They have the right to draw what they want, write what they want, speek what they want, ect.

However, furries are not the only ones with these rights. They have every right to write bad fanfiction, and I have every right to call it stupid.

All bad fan fiction is stupid. And everyone has the right to like and dislike as they please. I just drawn the line at people being willfully ignorant (not you specifically) and trying to force their opinions on others.

My point is that they want to express themselves. Which is fine.
But when I want to do the same? "Fursicution!"

And this is becoming derailed. Fast.

As I said before, this would change species, not race. Besides, if you CHOOSE to be something (which the first generation of these groups would have had to been) it is justified to judge them.
Fun fact: Adults do that in the real world all the time (judge people by actions and choices)

Googling that will only ever pop up one type of art. I'm calling it. Troll.

Right. Because I disagree with you I must be a troll.
My friend, you are only proving what I thought about furries all along.

No you were called a troll because you referred to "yiff" when talking about furry drawing which is most commonly used to indicate sexual activity or sexual material within the fandom, instead of just looking for furry

 

[Crazycat690]

Wait... Would your appearence actually change from that? If I'd only get alot stronger and smarter I see nothing wrong, but if there would be side effects and I get weird patches of furr then hell no!

 

[Eijarel]

...nah, for me it isn't worth it.
i can do just fine with my proudly human abilities, i need no animal genetic steroids that will make me shed all over the carpet.

 

[DeltaWolfson]

Amen to you Vidi

 

[Vidi Kitty]

This is not something that society should be tolerant about though. We should not accept rampant genetic modification as a good thing. And there's a world of difference between a botox treatment and becoming a hybrid. The difference being that one is altering a person on the genetic level.

Actually, the comparison is between genetic alteration, and injecting yourself with Botulin toxins, dear. It's the same risk, just different mediums of medical science--toxicology versus genetics.

And genetic modification is a million times more dangerous. What's your point? You can't use botox to turn yourself into perfect murder.

Called that like 6 posts back.

The moment any level of serious genetic mutation becomes available, someone will start trying to use it for evil. Not just the furry mutations. Think Aeon Flux assassin status. And that cat fellow down the hall might just hear something in the vents on inauguration day.