Furry Morality Question

[Vidi Kitty]

Except they wouldn't be? When you take this serum you are no longer a person. You are a hybrid. If it possible to become a hybrid then obviously genetic modifications are so advanced that far more dangerous things can also be done with them. And a society that lets people heavily modify their genes for trivial reasons is one that is setting itself up for disaster. We can't just let people modify themselves in such drastic ways. Far to many potential problems come from it.

Wait wait wait. No matter how you might change your physical apearance or your species or whatever, you will still be a person.

You sir, are a racist for thinking that becoming something other than human suddenly makes you less of a person.

Because I am forced to interact with these people. I find it shocking that furries are surprised when people "discriminate" against them. If you are going to become and and like animal, how could you not expect people to treat you like one?

You are never forced to interact with anyone. You weigh the pros and cons of doing so such as "that person needs to bathe... but if I avoid helping my manager might fire me"

And you can not look me in the eyes and tell me that many humans are less of an animal than some wolf guy working at the store down the street.

 

[Falconsgyre]

My question to the OP is why on earth bringing furries into it was even necessary. As people pointed out, X-men has already done this idea to death.

 

[jack583]

i probably wouldn't do it, but i'd support it.
if a serum can be invented to permanently increase strength and intelligence, then further research could leave to other benefits such as restoring a persons mobility.
what mean is that it could lead to something that can cure the crippled and the mentally disabled. and the current serum could prevent these things.

so what if it turns you into a furry?
a person could walk for the first time in 20+ years.

 

[CptJackRabbit]

Furry is not a sexual fetish by nature.

You're joking, right?
Right?


Warning: This may offend you

Spoiler

"Another often-used tactic is to deflect the blame of all of the terrible and awful things about the Furry community onto a small, anonymous group referred to as 'Furverts' (Basically, Furries into all of that nasty stuff). While it's true that not ALL Furries take delight in reading stories about gay threesomes featuring Disney characters, the majority do. The most popular and biggest Furry websites, the most popular Furry IRC channels, the most popular Furry newsgroups ALL cater to this fetish, the adult items sections on Furbid always have the most items for sale, it's quite clear that all of this can't be the result of one or two 'Furverts' spoiling things for the poor oppressed Furries (Persecution complex again). Is it really unreasonable when presented with all of this evidence to come to the conclusion that the vast majority of Furries are into some incomprehensibly f****** weird stuff? No, no it's not."

http://www.godhatesfurries.com/index.php?p=dealing

OT: No.

The reasoning?
I am in no way shape or form a furry. So I wouldn?t do it. I don?t want to be lumped in with them at all!

That, and I enjoy being a human. And I don?t trust science with something to alter my genetic code.

your resource is a website with "godhatesfurries" as an address... sounds real unbias. And with the number of furs I know, myself included, not a single one of them engage in the fetish that is most often thought of.. I'll even tell you, that per se one of us did want to dress as a fox and climb under the sheets, it isnt likely to happen. Those suits are incredibly hot like you wouldnt believe, and stupidly expensive.

I apologize OP, the site used as a reference annoyed me. Not to get back on topic:

I would, yes. I would take it and hope it works. I dont think there is going to be much discrimination though, as depending on the4 success rate, it might actually be a norm. Yes it would probably be the norm, but aside from stat boosting (which wouldnt make any superior, just on the level of everyone else spliced. ie, clark kent isnt superman on krypton) I could also assume that we would be less susceptible to disease and such. Invariably, when people were done protesting and complaining, and it was being more accepted into society, and producing offspring was possible, then eventually, it would be a more hybrid society. That might not be in the creators lifetime, but what change is over night?

 

[Badong]

Well, in terms of genetics, infusing animal DNA with human DNA won't necessarily make you a furry. If one would want to have, say, more efficient musculature, but wouldn't want one's scrotum to be on the front side of your dick, then one would isolate the gene code of the former from the latter.

But, presupposing that the combining of DNA would be crude and experimental, then I would say no, I would not want to be a superhuman furry because of societal reasons.

 

[Internet Kraken]

Wait wait wait. No matter how you might change your physical apearance or your species or whatever, you will still be a person.

You sir, are a racist for thinking that becoming something other than human suddenly makes you less of a person.

Except in this case it does. You're taking in animal characteristics for no reason other than "I wanna be different". It's completley unnecessary and highly disturbing that people would so freely altar their bodies in drastic ways over such trivial issues. And no, pointing this out doesn't make me a racist.

How can you intentionally acquire the characteristics of wild animals and then be outraged when people treat you more like one? You'd be doing this to yourself. It's not something you're born with. It's you're own creepy decision.

You are never forced to interact with anyone. You weigh the pros and cons of doing so such as "that person needs to bathe... but if I avoid helping my manager might fire me"

And you can not look me in the eyes and tell me that many humans are less of an animal than some wolf guy working at the store down the street.

Yes I can. He chose to become part animal.

 

[Therumancer]

On my way home today I had thought pop into my head. It has to do with furries but its not nessesarily restricted to them. Here goes.

Alright so a research company comes up with a serum and releases it this year. The company itself is not important, the serum itself is not important. If you have to ask, the company made the serum for the betterment of humanity.

What the serum does is improve your mental and physical prowess above that of a normal human. However, we're being realistic here. Your not Captian America, but the average serum user is equal in brains to a smart human. A genius user will always be smarter than a genius non-user. If you have never been able to lift a car, well now you can alibet only a foot or two. You can work longer, harder, faster, better, and stronger.

However, the serum does this by combining animal traits with human traits producing animal-human hybrids, the aforemention furry part. Using the serum turns you into a furry (assuming there are multiple types of serums for people who want a specific hybrid, one for a fox-human, wolf-human, etc...)

Obviously the person who uses it is going to face a lot of social problems, discrimination prominently. Honestly, I'd do it. Discrimination be damned I'd probably be smarter than all my co-workers, score one promotion for me.

Honestly? I'd ban it entirely.

It has nothing to do with furries, but the bottom line is that if your seeing this product released on the market it pretty much guarantees those who can afford it are going to have a substantial advantage over those who don't. In reality this would wind up being something The Rich would keep for themselves.

See, I'm a capitalist, but not someone that supports a race of ubermensh ruling over everyone else

I think you kind of misunderstand how that would turn out.

Simply put it's something that would either have to be used on everyone, probably en-masse to prevent any thought or give any kind of goverment or interest group from getting control of it, destroyed, or locked away until enough time had passed to find some way of dealing with it fairly.

To me the appearance is more or less irrelevent, and the end result is actually going to be those who use it will wind up ruling over those that don't. Discrimination isn't going to be a factor in exactly the way you think.

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

your resource is a website with "godhatesfurries" as an address... sounds real unbias. And with the number of furs I know, myself included, not a single one of them engage in the fetish that is most often thought of.. I'll even tell you, that per se one of us did want to dress as a fox and climb under the sheets, it isnt likely to happen. Those suits are incredibly hot like you wouldnt believe, and stupidly expensive.

No offense, but your avatar is of a naked bunny-woman. I don't think you can claim to be non biased either.

OT: If people want to eff themselves up, I have no problem.
Hell, I doubt it would have to bost stats. There are enough people out there with more money then sense that would buy something to become an animal-person.

As a capitalist, I aprove of that.

As an adendum, saying anything against furries is not "Racist"

 

[Quaidis]

People are really thinking in the 'now'. If this generation became furries to up their intelligence or power or whatnot for the better of themselves, would they be descriminated against?

What about the fore-future? Would you be able to have children if you became genetically modified? Or would you become sterile? And if such half halflings came about, what about how their futures would be? Would they have the same powers? Or would your wife (or yourself) just have really butt ugly babies with strange animal deformities?

So the real question is. If you became a furry to better yourself, could you live with the possible consequences of no longer having sex? Or getting your package removed for the 'better of human kind' if such a law was made?

 

[Ryengu]

Furry is not a sexual fetish by nature.

You're joking, right?
Right?


Warning: This may offend you

Spoiler

"Another often-used tactic is to deflect the blame of all of the terrible and awful things about the Furry community onto a small, anonymous group referred to as 'Furverts' (Basically, Furries into all of that nasty stuff). While it's true that not ALL Furries take delight in reading stories about gay threesomes featuring Disney characters, the majority do. The most popular and biggest Furry websites, the most popular Furry IRC channels, the most popular Furry newsgroups ALL cater to this fetish, the adult items sections on Furbid always have the most items for sale, it's quite clear that all of this can't be the result of one or two 'Furverts' spoiling things for the poor oppressed Furries (Persecution complex again). Is it really unreasonable when presented with all of this evidence to come to the conclusion that the vast majority of Furries are into some incomprehensibly f****** weird stuff? No, no it's not."

http://www.godhatesfurries.com/index.php?p=dealing

So "the internet is for porn" is only inapplicable when there's an opportunity to slam someone? My contention is that there is something that appeals about the anthro physique, porn aspects aside. I know several anthro artists that rarely if ever draw porn. As well, there is a difference between "porn" and "artistic nudes", go ask the greeks about that.

 

[drisky]

Well I'm against genetic engineering (for non-medical purposes) it the first place, although since this is a boost rather than full on building perfection, Its not quite as severe. Still I don't think I want to artificially enhance my intelligence or anything like that.

 

[Vidi Kitty]

Wait wait wait. No matter how you might change your physical apearance or your species or whatever, you will still be a person.

You sir, are a racist for thinking that becoming something other than human suddenly makes you less of a person.

Except in this case it does. You're taking in animal characteristics for no reason other than "I wanna be different". It's completley unnecessary and highly disturbing that people would so freely altar their bodies in drastic ways over such trivial issues. And no, pointing this out doesn't make me a racist.

How can you intentionally acquire the characteristics of wild animals and then be outraged when people treat you more like one? You'd be doing this to yourself. It's not something you're born with. It's you're own creepy decision.

You are never forced to interact with anyone. You weigh the pros and cons of doing so such as "that person needs to bathe... but if I avoid helping my manager might fire me"

And you can not look me in the eyes and tell me that many humans are less of an animal than some wolf guy working at the store down the street.

Yes I can.

You really are nothing but a racist who can't see they way others do and can't agree with or even put up with the thought of someone choosing to be so drastically different. If you really think you can just look at someone and 'know' what kind of person they are, then I pity you. You should really try to open your eyes more than a cold glare.

 

[SodaDew]

Why should I take it and insult one of gods(or natures depending on your belief) creations?

 

[Iron Lightning]

Of course, if the price to better grasp the nature of the universe is having an octopus for a face then I'd certainly go through with it.

As an added bonus, I'd be able to get lots of hot Japanese chicks. Win-win situations for the win.

 

[KimonoBoxFox]

Kraken, I'm a little confused. What exactly are you trying to protect, beyond status quo? So we've ascertained that changing people for strictly, physiological benefit is a no-go because it's somehow unfair to the underachievers who can't become millionaires because they don't do the work or make the plans necessary to become said individuals. Yet on the flip side, it's insane to have a different view of personal beauty from other human beings, as well?

What gives? Who 'are' you trying to protect, and from what?

 

[JoshuaMadoc]

I'd volunteer to be a dog-man to try and see just how tolerant Australians are. We're already pretty tolerant of furries compared to Americans, unless said Australian frequents IRC and is part of the jaded internet user community, due to laid-back ignorance, so I'd love to see just how much energy Australian fundies would have in crying foul at the sight of scientific abominations potentially worse than stem-cell research guinea pigs.

 

[Internet Kraken]

You really are nothing but a racist who can't see they way others do and can't agree with or even put up with the thought of someone choosing to be so drastically different. If you really think you can just look at someone and 'know' what kind of person they are, then I pity you. You should really try to open your eyes more than a cold glare.

Yes, I am a racist for being opposed to completley unnecessary, disgusting, disturbing, and bizarre genetic modifications. I am a racist for thinking of somebody as a less of a person because they are intentionally becoming part animal and acting like one. Even though by definition they really are less of a person. They're acting like animals.

Any society that is so accepting towards massive genetic modifications for frivolous reasons is one I don't want to be part of.

Kraken, I'm a little confused. What exactly are you trying to protect, beyond status quo? So we've ascertained that changing people for strictly, physiological benefit is a no-go because it's somehow unfair to the underachievers who can't become millionaires because they don't do the work or make the plans necessary to become said individuals. Yet on the flip side, it's insane to have a different view of personal beauty from other human beings, as well?

What gives? Who 'are' you trying to protect, and from what?

Tow things; A) People who become animals are creepy when they permenantly change their body in order to do so B) A society that is tolerant towards massive genetic modifications for trivial reasons is one that is setting itself up for disaster. Genetic modification is a dangerous thing, and it must be handled with care to ensure that is not abused.

 

[KhakiHat]

I WANT TO BE A DOLPHIN!1!11!!111!

Caps spam aside, I think it a bad idea. I kinda like being human. We can run farther, have killer bods and make potato chips to ruin both. Dolphins just swim around n' shit. Though I think I could live with animal like ticks and a stubby tail hidden under a jacket. Maybe a pair of cat ears. But I'd stop there.

Ok, so I might go with the full tail, but I'm a dude, so I dont think we can go much further...

 

[idodo35]

i wouldnt use it ...
if its not cap level it doesnt worth it!

 

[NiPah]

without hesitation, and yes see avatar.

A similar idea was brought up with cyborgs in Starcraft, led to non-cybernetic humans to wage war, resulting in all cyborgs to be put in prison. Hopefully this wouldn't happen: