Furry Morality Question

[ThrobbingEgo]

Absolutely disgusting. There is already a huge social inequality gap in the developed world. Something like this would only serve to widen it even further. People would be denied opportunities becuase they could not afford to purchase this serum. People would be incapable of doing as much as those who were fortunate enough to get the wealth needed to acquire it. Some people will merely use the serum to make up for their own lack of effort. Such a thing will only bring problems to our society, and thus must not be used.

Sure. And let's burn all computers while we're at it. And cars. And hospitals. For fairness. If somebody can't have an advantage, nobody should.

That line of reasoning condemns the use of any costly practical tool. Another problem with that reasoning is that many of these tools can be harnessed to aid the have-nots too. Farmers in Africa use cellphones to negotiate deals for their crops, as one example.

 

[Marmooset]

On my way home today I had thought pop into my head. It has to do with furries but its not nessesarily restricted to them. Here goes.

Alright so a research company comes up with a serum and releases it this year. The company itself is not important, the serum itself is not important. If you have to ask, the company made the serum for the betterment of humanity.

What the serum does is improve your mental and physical prowess above that of a normal human. However, we're being realistic here. Your not Captian America, but the average serum user is equal in brains to a smart human. A genius user will always be smarter than a genius non-user. If you have never been able to lift a car, well now you can alibet only a foot or two. You can work longer, harder, faster, better, and stronger.

However, the serum does this by combining animal traits with human traits producing animal-human hybrids, the aforemention furry part. Using the serum turns you into a furry (assuming there are multiple types of serums for people who want a specific hybrid, one for a fox-human, wolf-human, etc...)

Obviously the person who uses it is going to face a lot of social problems, discrimination prominently. Honestly, I'd do it. Discrimination be damned I'd probably be smarter than all my co-workers, score one promotion for me.

Well, let's see. What member of the animal kingdom is known for brains? Oh yeah, the human. So the potion would make me a more humany human?
Sure, no problem.
Maybe I'll use my newfound powers to hunt down and eradicate furries.

 

[JoshuaMadoc]

There seems to be this assumption that you're going to end up looking like something out of an anime rather than say this [http://www.brookstreetpictures.com/jackbrooks/press/photos/Kristyn-Butcher-as-Mutant-Janice-in-Jack-Brooks-Monster-Slayer.jpg] guy. The premise is that you become physically and mentally better, no one said pretty, pretty nekos one and all. Some of the things we've done just with plants genetically is misguided enough. Look into Monsanto a bit, they basically want to patent forms of life. Whether it's over blown or not it doesn't make them any less douchey. Now imagine what the company that made the serum might be like, especially if it's free.

There's no way an abomination like that would have such a perfectly shaped human nose in real life.

 

[Triple G]

Never I will "sell my soul" to such an inhumane proposition. So I suppose I would participate in or even lead the charge to exterminate said company and said wannabe "Ubermenschen".

 

[mcnally86]

I fail to see a downside.
OK maybe one.

Say I took the serum and turned into a raccoon and my wife took it and turned into, say, an arctic fox. Would we be able to have another child together? Or would our one son be it. If we gave him the serum, would he turn into some sort of fox/raccoon hybrid or something else entirely?

You would be as sterile as a mule.

 

[Christopher Callahan]

Isn't this just ADAM with Fur? If you played bioshock, you can see how this ends. But instead of giving you insanity, it gives you fur and cat ears. Or something like that.

 

[Doclector]

No thank you, I'm ugly enough as it is.

To be honest, I see it as i'm already ugly. Why not be ugly with perks? And besides, there is a fetish for this. There is no fetish for plain ugly.

[small]and having a tail would be kinda neat...okay, actually, fuck it, it'd be freaking awesome.[/small]

 

[Buccura]

I doubt even (most) non-furries would say no to something like this. I mean, come on it gives you super powers!

 

[CharrHearted]

I'd probably do it. enhanced abilities would work out just fine. ^_^ It would also make anthro-con less of a bore. XD

 

[CharrHearted]

Maybe I'll use my newfound powers to hunt down and eradicate furries.

troll! TROLL IN THE DUNGEON!

 

[PurplePlatypus]

No, but only because I?m waiting for the technological/robotics equivalent of it.

 

[Pinstar]

I fail to see a downside.
OK maybe one.

Say I took the serum and turned into a raccoon and my wife took it and turned into, say, an arctic fox. Would we be able to have another child together? Or would our one son be it. If we gave him the serum, would he turn into some sort of fox/raccoon hybrid or something else entirely?

You would be as sterile as a mule.

Sterile with my other-species wife, or sterile in general (Meaning we'd be SOL on more kids even if she went to the same species as me)

I still would do it, I'd just wait to finish having kids before taking the plunge.

 

[Versuvius]

Eh why not. So long as i dont get a case of Splice style hybrid psychosis and go on a murderous rape rampage... or england turns into Rapture with a case of bad weather 3/4s of the year.

Im practically my avatar anyway. I am the epitome of scientific advancement!

 

[dfcrackhead]

Just to be a douchebag, I'd say yes, and then use my genius to come up with a way to use the serum and still look human, thus negating all possible "negative" side effects of the serum. I'd then market my cure and sell it to all the users who didn't want to be furries and make lots of money. There, I win.
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[LCP]

I would live in a basement, with a shotgun pointed at the door, surviving on canned beans and the occasional rat.

In reality, I wouldn't mind furries everywhere. I'd not take the serum, it would take getting used to...

 

[Tonimata]

In my opinion, it's a matter of niche. Sure, you'll be discriminated by a larger portion of society that sees furries and everything related to them as wrong, but you'll be welcome by those that embrace the furry culture. It's a matter of sticking to the kind of people you fell more familiarized with. Personally, I'd do it too, I don't do furry and yiffing and all that kind of stuff, but my reasons would be
1) Physical trait benefitting
2) I tend to prefer alternative to mainstream crowds
3) I like to try out new things
4) I think I'd look damn sexy with wolf traits. After all, girls with "cat eyes" are oh so goddamn gorgeous

 

[mcnally86]

Humanity gets a little droll and insipid at times. As long as I don't turn into Judge Death, who gives a crap about trivialities like "equality". That'd be my subjective opinion. But you could probably have figured that out from my name. Or the fact that this is my first post here.

Objectively, on the other hand...

Society should not become a parasitic force, and when thoughts of equality start dragging us down in terms of independence, it's probably time to reassess our priorities between antiquated morality and plain old improvement on the physical level. Look at how fragile and reliant on technology humans are, for instance. Look at our tendencies toward reliance on a stable economy for food, shelter, and physical health. Would it be a terrible thing to continue this way, when we could augment what humans are capable of? What a human can be? Must we always delude ourselves with self-spun tales of perfection and providence, when already, many creatures of nature excel beyond our capabilities?

On the flip side, we should probably beware the temptation of "Master Race" mentality, in our strides toward physical improvement. People should not think of the betterment of others in their own sense, as Hitler did. People each improve in their own unique way, not by some group standard.

Lastly, we should resist the temptation to fear monger, when it comes to this sort of thought. Mind me for meandering with this last sentiment, I know this is getting a bit deep for the simplicity of the question of the thread... but as we founded the New World by overcoming a fear of the World's Edge, there are new and promising prospects that are guarded by similar fears and superstitions--ones we stagnate in, believing that they are protecting us from an apocalyptic future.

We've already predicted our own end many times already--if we're going to put our futures out of our own hands, then what hope do we have as a species? Let's look toward positive outcomes of our endeavors. Was it heresy when man learned to smelt iron, to right buildings, to take nature's things and reshape them into something more? Whether there is a creator or not, I somehow doubt he overlooked our potential to shape ourselves as well. Best we learn to do so respectfully, and become something more beautiful.

I personally want beautiful fox's fur, and their acute hearing and sense of smell. There are sacrifices I'd make for that. They should be mine to make.

Dull and insipid? Do you know what an animal does? It lives its life in the same manner as its parents. Did you know that if you put deer on an island with no predator they populate and eat all the plants then die? Their carcasses poisoning the soul of the now barren rock. As a human I would have to say our instinct is to survive, to reshape ourselves and the world.Islanders would build a raft to escape and colonize other places, to survive. You find humans dull because you are dull, living as an island only with your thoughts. Go up to an old lady on the street and ask her if she killed a man, you wont find life boring after that no matter what comes next.

 

[witheringsanity]

Absolutely disgusting. There is already a huge social inequality gap in the developed world. Something like this would only serve to widen it even further. People would be denied opportunities because they could not afford to purchase this serum. People would be incapable of doing as much as those who were fortunate enough to get the wealth needed to acquire it. Some people will merely use the serum to make up for their own lack of effort. Such a thing will only bring problems to our society, and thus must not be used.

you sir are either trolling, or just dont think before you post. you say that something that will further widen the gap between developed and un-developed worlds, and give people opportunities over those who cannot purchase the "serum", and that such a thing must not be used.

why then, i must ask, are you using a computer? or electricity? or indoor plumbing? or soap? or refrigeration? or automobiles, etc, etc? ALL of these things were, at one point, restrictively expensive, to the point where only those with lots of money or power could use them. i'm sure there were opponents of all these things as well, stating that "such a thing would only bring problems to our society!"

if you're so concerned about EVERYONE being equal, you should donate your electronics, clothing, food, etc, to those less fortunate. otherwise, by your logic, you are keeping those people down

 

[Quextamon]

I would do it. It seems to me that increased intelligence, and whatever particulars you chose in exchange for appearance would be an equal trade.

 

[KillerHunterX]

Maybe I'm going a bit off topic here but why would this serum make you smarter? That's the one edge humans have over animals. We're not stronger than most animals of comparable size, nor faster, or have endurance. All we really had over everything else was the ability to use fire. Realistically, this serum shouldn't give an intelligence boost. Perception boost maybe, what with increased sense of smell, sight, taste and whatnot.

But I think I wouldn't go for the whole serum thing. One it sounds expensive... Two, it sounds painful (re-working entire cellular structures and muscle systems...), Three, who knows what kinda side effects they have. Imagine if you would go into heat like real animals and rape someone. That'd be bad. Then think of the increase in shampoo cost. And all the clothes that you can't wear anymore. Or anything else that was designed with the average human in mind.

You'd have to wait a very long time for the market to become viable for anthropomorphic customers... But that's where I'll be. =3 First mover in an emerging market. Mwahahaha.