Gabe Newell Speaks: What About Counter-Strike 2?

Orcus The Ultimate

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jh322 said:
Orcus_35 said:
I don't know about you guys/gals, but i'm getting tired of so many sequels, why don't they try their originality once in a while ??!!
what like (the still fairly recent) Left 4 Dead?
Oh no ! Zombie got too much mainstreamed: CoD WaW,BlackOps,RedDeadRedemption, i think there's even some in Yakuza n°"something" zombie stuff, Left 4 Dead 1&2, Dead Rising series, Dead Space series, etc.

i mean a real new game, based on whatever graphic engine, but just something refreshing, not those Team Fortress clones...i can't recall the name.
 

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Orcus_35 said:
jh322 said:
Orcus_35 said:
I don't know about you guys/gals, but i'm getting tired of so many sequels, why don't they try their originality once in a while ??!!
what like (the still fairly recent) Left 4 Dead?
Oh no ! Zombie got too much mainstreamed: CoD WaW,BlackOps,RedDeadRedemption, i think there's even some in Yakuza n°"something" zombie stuff, Left 4 Dead 1&2, Dead Rising series, Dead Space series, etc.

i mean a real new game, based on whatever graphic engine, but just something refreshing, not those Team Fortress clones...i can't recall the name.
Ok, so I wasn't going to post again because this is something I feel pretty strongly about and I don't want to accidentally flame/troll because I got carried away, but L4D is one of the most original titles released by any house in the past few years - it redefined co-op mechanics, and creates better atmosphere than any other survival horror game I've ever played - this from a company famed for solo-action titles? If that's not them branching out, I don't know what is. Just because everybody's doing zombie stuff doesn't mean everything with zombies is a clone of one thing or another
 

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jh322 said:
Orcus_35 said:
jh322 said:
Orcus_35 said:
I don't know about you guys/gals, but i'm getting tired of so many sequels, why don't they try their originality once in a while ??!!
what like (the still fairly recent) Left 4 Dead?
Oh no ! Zombie got too much mainstreamed: CoD WaW,BlackOps,RedDeadRedemption, i think there's even some in Yakuza n°"something" zombie stuff, Left 4 Dead 1&2, Dead Rising series, Dead Space series, etc.

i mean a real new game, based on whatever graphic engine, but just something refreshing, not those Team Fortress clones...i can't recall the name.
Ok, so I wasn't going to post again because this is something I feel pretty strongly about and I don't want to accidentally flame/troll because I got carried away, but L4D is one of the most original titles released by any house in the past few years - it redefined co-op mechanics, and creates better atmosphere than any other survival horror game I've ever played - this from a company famed for solo-action titles? If that's not them branching out, I don't know what is. Just because everybody's doing zombie stuff doesn't mean everything with zombies is a clone of one thing or another
I never said L4D wasn't original, i'm just saying that they keep doing FPS games, instead of something totally diferent.
 

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Orcus_35 said:
jh322 said:
Orcus_35 said:
jh322 said:
Orcus_35 said:
I don't know about you guys/gals, but i'm getting tired of so many sequels, why don't they try their originality once in a while ??!!
what like (the still fairly recent) Left 4 Dead?
Oh no ! Zombie got too much mainstreamed: CoD WaW,BlackOps,RedDeadRedemption, i think there's even some in Yakuza n°"something" zombie stuff, Left 4 Dead 1&2, Dead Rising series, Dead Space series, etc.

i mean a real new game, based on whatever graphic engine, but just something refreshing, not those Team Fortress clones...i can't recall the name.
Ok, so I wasn't going to post again because this is something I feel pretty strongly about and I don't want to accidentally flame/troll because I got carried away, but L4D is one of the most original titles released by any house in the past few years - it redefined co-op mechanics, and creates better atmosphere than any other survival horror game I've ever played - this from a company famed for solo-action titles? If that's not them branching out, I don't know what is. Just because everybody's doing zombie stuff doesn't mean everything with zombies is a clone of one thing or another
I never said L4D wasn't original, i'm just saying that they keep doing FPS games, instead of something totally diferent.
ah I see what you mean. Engines are expensive I guess...
 

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Of course Kotick doesn't have a soul. None of use do, because they aren't a real thing. It's just some concept someone came up with. People also use it as a word that means being a decent person, but in that case it still isn't something you "have".

And I'm surprised they asked about CounterStrike 2 over Half Life 2 Episode 3.

CanadianWolverine said:
What exactly is your and bahumat42's problem with people still wondering "What about Half-Life 2: Episode 3?" Are you yet another case of 'haters gonna hate'?

Hell-larr-ee-US, you have me in stitches with your "fun", you hipster you.
Yeah, I have to agree. I don't see why there should be a problem with people wanting to know where the third part of an episodic series is, especially when part 1 came out in 2006 and part 2 came out in 2007, and now part 3 seems to be in limbo. People would be asking about it if it was any game, really.
 

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Okay, bonus points because he asked a question that I'm pretty sure NO ONE would have asked if given the chance. Ten to one he wanted to ask the question that a large majority of us want to ask, but knew he wouldn't get anything from it. So good job. I'm jumping on the ship of "Episode 3" though.

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Random Argument Man said:
bahumat42 said:
Random Argument Man said:
Half life 2 episode 3 demand in 3.....2...1....
dude why would you tempt them. Their annoying enough when they pop up on their own.
I'm not "tempting". They'll post anyway and I just wanted to make a little fun out of it.
What exactly is your and bahumat42's problem with people still wondering "What about Half-Life 2: Episode 3?" Are you yet another case of 'haters gonna hate'?

Hell-larr-ee-US, you have me in stitches with your "fun", you hipster you.
Leave it alone. When proper grammar isn't used by someone bashing on people for asking a very legitimate question, it's not worth getting into it. Save your energy for valid arguments. :)
 

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Orcus_35 said:
I never said L4D wasn't original, i'm just saying that they keep doing FPS games, instead of something totally diferent.
Stick with what you know?

I don't think Valve's ever done anything that's not from a First-person perspective.

And I'm okay with that.

And technically, Portal isn't a shooter, so...
 

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Dooly95 said:
Orcus_35 said:
I never said L4D wasn't original, i'm just saying that they keep doing FPS games, instead of something totally diferent.
Stick with what you know?

I don't think Valve's ever done anything that's not from a First-person perspective.

And I'm okay with that.

And technically, Portal isn't a shooter, so...
Portal's a good example, they should do more games like these, not necesarily, Portal 2 Portal 3 Portal 4 Portal 5... i mean they have all the money they want, the PR, the distribution etc.

is it then, that they're afraid the targeted audience isn't ready for a change ?
 

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Nobody gives a crap about Counter Strike 2. And if they do, they are insane, because theres now MW, MW2, Black Ops, Medal of Honor, Bad Company 2, the upcoming Battlefield 3 and Homefront. Counter-Strike 2 doesnt stand a chance.
 

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Sniper Team 4 said:
Okay, bonus points because he asked a question that I'm pretty sure NO ONE would have asked if given the chance. Ten to one he wanted to ask the question that a large majority of us want to ask, but knew he wouldn't get anything from it. So good job. I'm jumping on the ship of "Episode 3" though.

CanadianWolverine said:
Random Argument Man said:
bahumat42 said:
Random Argument Man said:
Half life 2 episode 3 demand in 3.....2...1....
dude why would you tempt them. Their annoying enough when they pop up on their own.
I'm not "tempting". They'll post anyway and I just wanted to make a little fun out of it.
What exactly is your and bahumat42's problem with people still wondering "What about Half-Life 2: Episode 3?" Are you yet another case of 'haters gonna hate'?

Hell-larr-ee-US, you have me in stitches with your "fun", you hipster you.
Leave it alone. When proper grammar isn't used by someone bashing on people for asking a very legitimate question, it's not worth getting into it. Save your energy for valid arguments. :)
...You went there...Didn't you?

I'll post this while I'm at it...
 

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Ben Simon said:
If I could ask him one question?

HALF LIFE EPISODE 3!!!!!!!!!!
I was waiting for someone to say that. Very original.

OT: Counter Strike is fine as is.
 

mireko

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Counter-Strike 2 would just sound like a patch to CS 1.6.

Which.. would actually be pretty cool.
 

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While it's tempting to ask about Half-Life 2: Episode 3, do any of to really think the response would be anything other than "No comment"?
 

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I'd think Valve isn't really making a dollar off of Counter Strike anymore since practically anyone with a Steam account already has the game and has had it for 7+ years. Not that I'm saying that Valve *really* ought to do it, but a new iteration of Counter Strike using an even more souped-up version of Source would make sense, if only because of brand knowledge with consumers (Pretty much why EA went with "Medal of Honour" for their modern day shooter).
 

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Tom Phoenix said:
Wouldn't Counter-Strike Source technically qualify as "Counter-Strike 2"?

Nice to see a developer appear at a e-Sports event, though.
3 if you count Condition Zero.

And I don't really care what comes out of Valve until the TF2 master server goes down.
 

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PoisonUnagi said:
Tom Phoenix said:
Wouldn't Counter-Strike Source technically qualify as "Counter-Strike 2"?

Nice to see a developer appear at a e-Sports event, though.
3 if you count Condition Zero.
Condition Zero is more like a stand-alone expansion pack, though.