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Shoggoth2588

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In regards to the note: my interest in the film Annie Hall was peaked by the description of the few scenes outlined in the article. I shall find a copy as soon as I can

I am interested to see how many upcoming movies will use a graphic-novel template to show the past of certain characters.
 

Falseprophet

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vortexgods said:
I seem to recall that there was a Jason Statham film called Crank that deliberately aped an old school video game aesthetic, but perhaps I only dreamed it.
I'm not sure what aesthetic you're referring to for Crank, but I can think of another Jason Statham movie that incorporated video-game storytelling into its narrative: the remake of Death Race.

It was a pretty crappy movie, and had none of the joy or irreverence of the original Death Race 2000, but it did incorporate the power-up feature of almost every combat racing game. The cars in the film were armed, but the weapons were turned off until they drove over these lit icons on the road that would turn the specific weapons on (machine guns, rockets, smoke screen, etc.).

Much as I loved Scott Pilgrim (and hated The Expendables), I have to disagree with Bob on this essay. The video-game aesthetic of SP is clearly going to come across as a quirk of that particular story.

The comic was the same way. I got three-quarters of the way through Scott Pilgrim #1 getting used to this slice-of-life relationship indie comic story (ie, Questionable Content: the Book), when this NES/Bollywood brawl breaks out and blows me away. But I haven't seen a heck of a lot of other comics outside of the usual webcomic strips play with this device. And it's a lot easier to risk that sort of thing with an indie comic than a wide-release feature with an 8-figure budget.
 

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Now, another good question to ask about Scott Pilgrim is how can the social-networking scene affect earnings? It may be something small, but at the same time, it may be just what the movie needs. From what I know, Scott Pilgrim has been trending on and off for the last week on Twitter and it is a very highly searched movie term. On top of that, it has only recently opened outside of Canada and the US.

Also of note, soundtracks, posters, t-shirts, and other film paraphernalia are going to be very highly bought (Much in the trend of Kick-Ass), especially compared to the currently competing movies.

I know that these sales aren't going to be seen since it already 'flopped' on opening weekend. But it may help what we're all looking for, that 'impact' on culture. That snowballing impact that starts with Annie Hall and ends at Ferris Bueller questioning why we are all sitting in that theatre still.
 

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I feel really sorry for those in the UK who have yet to see it. I've already seen it twice and it was frickin' AWESOME!!!
 

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Noelveiga said:
Ehhh... maybe next time place the spoilers not in the immediate vicinity of the spoiler warning? Sheesh. I mean, the movie hasn't even opened where I live.

Actually, the movie's performance is absolutely to be expected. It is making exactly as much money as all other movies based on indie comic books. That is to say, not much. Not the audience's fault that they decided to throw a lot more money into the production, making it horribly overdone for a property that was niche to begin with, is it?
Two fine points made there, particularly the second one. To get 5th place for such a small target audience, is actually an achievement the more I think of it.
 

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SpiderJerusalem said:
First it was Avatar, now Scott Pilgrim, pretty soon there's going to be another pseudo-game changer, despite not being close to one. Pretty much everything that Scott Pilgrim did, Speed Racer did before, and neither were much successes, but enjoy a semi-cult following (or, in Pilgrim's case, will enjoy one).

A game changer requires much more than recycled game nostalgia and poorly acted stereotypes of characters.

Oh, and that whole; using a metaphor in a literal sense to communicate love, life and teen hardship? Already done (far better) by the likes of Burton and Whedon.
Movie Bob said something good about Avatar...?
 

Kurokami

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Crunchy English said:
The movie is nothing special, the ending is nothing special and this is the first time in a long time I've disagreed with Bob. What's weird is that I'm not dramatically opposed to Bob's take on it, I just think its wrong. I don't think Scott Pilgrim is a horrible movie made by horrible people, I think it's a boring movie made by boring people. I have a pretty good tolerance for satire, I seriously enjoy abstract or surreal elements in my movies. Scott Pilgrim was forgettable.

In fact, let me troll Bob for a moment. This is being said purely to infuriate Bob, but that doesn't mean it isn't completely true:

The Expendables will be more memorable ten years down the line, because it had an incredibly recognizable cast. Neither Pilgrim nor the Expendables was even remotely important, interesting or entertaining. But Expendables is more familiar, so people will remember it, likely as "that Stallone movie with all the action guys".
As you said, its not so much trolling as it is just absolutely true. I found a whole lot of Scott Pilgrim to just be plain boring, I enjoyed some of the comic style effects, but meh.
 

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SpiderJerusalem said:
Sorry, no, should have been clearer; Avatar was called a game changer and revolutionary leap in cinema evolution yada yada yada bruahaha.

It was a bag of hot air then, like Scott Pilgrim as Game Changer is now. So it made sense in my head.

Then again, flying elephants make sense in my head as well.
But Avatar was a game changer, it pretty much started the current 3D craze as well as raising the bar for CGI.
 

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Christ, that spoiler warning is not nearly noticeable enough. I thought it was an intro and skipped over it. Maybe if it was in BOLD instead of italics it might be visible. :mad:
 

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rabidmidget said:
Moriarty70 said:
See, I came out the far end of Scott Pilgrim seeing it as a parody of hipster culture by simply being self-aware of it's hipster apathy. I have a feeling most of the hate comes from two sides.

1. People think it's a stright up hipster film.
2. Hipsters realize they're being mocked.
3. The hatred of a popular Michael Cerra.
This pretty much covers my opinion.

Every single hipster related joke in the movie is at its own expense, but it seems that "hipster" is the new social leprosy after "emo", so people simply dismiss it as a celebration of "hipster" culture rather than a satire.

*let it be noted that I'm not a hipster, although I do like indie music.
Even better is that Micheal Cerra seems to be playing a version of himself that most "I'm too cool for Cerra now that he's popular" hipsters percieve him as.
 

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"Fast & The Furious sequel will end with Vin Diesel driving through a translucent question-mark and taking out the bad guy with a Blue Shell."
Someone make this happen. Now.
 

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Yeah, having seen the movie it really seems to me that it will set the bar on such a genre. Gamer movies are very tied to pre-existing genres of film but this could quite possibly be a breaking away into a new vein of film. The irony is that a comic book movie could be the catalyst of video-game movies. That's life for you. Haha!
 

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While the pre-credits were a bit strenuous on the eyes, I genuinely enjoyed everything about this movie. The scene cuts were fantastically done, as can only be expected of Hot Fuzz director Edgar Wright (seriously, go watch that movie, the cinematography is superb).

I felt that the emotion shown, while perhaps not up to the standards of "mainstream" rom-coms, was more what one would actually see in a modern-day relationship such as this. I actually liked the nonsensical and seemingly-unjustified mood swings, because that's how a majority of twenty-somethings function!
I almost had a nerd-gasm right at the beginning, during the Universal logo scene (if you've seen the movie, you'll know what I mean), and the graphic elements made everything pop with the perfect amount of movie+comic-book mixture.

All in all, I think my VERY favorite 'omg, that's awesome' moments came near the end, and is what MovieBob references in this article (MAJOR SPOILERS)
When Scott Pilgrim gets his second life, not only does he go through practically the same scene as before, rectifying any moral slip-ups(just like gamers often do), he ALSO chose to skip through a majority of the dialogue and mooks because he'd done it all before, and wanted to get to the big bad. To gamers EVERYWHERE, that should be such a colossal sign of game-to-movie transferal, as it is common practice to mow down minor baddies and hold the 'next' button through repeated dialogue just to get to the fighting and major decisions! Maybe it's not as major as I'm making it out to be, but it was a wonderful nod to the videogaming generation that inspired so much of the movie.
 

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Please make the spoiler sign bold and big instead of cursive and small. I thought it was
website filler and read over it. Now it got spoiled.
 

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ObsessiveSketch said:
While the pre-credits were a bit strenuous on the eyes, I genuinely enjoyed everything about this movie. The scene cuts were fantastically done, as can only be expected of Hot Fuzz director Edgar Wright (seriously, go watch that movie, the cinematography is superb).
Having literaly just rewatched that film less than 5 minutes ago, as part of my pumping myself for Scott Pilgrim, I'll second this. Espcially with the action sequences where he mangaes to have the very choppy quick cuts but still avoid it merely being confusing as it does with other films. And that's not to mention all the scene cuts it's hard to describe just how effective they are, espcially with such a good script as Hott Fuzz has.
 

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I loved the movie the first time I saw it. I loved it even more the second time and no amount of trolls can influence me to think otherwise. I would like to think that down the line SP could influence the filmmakers of the future. Due to its limited commercial success it will probably only survive as a cult classic and a foot note in movie history (at best).
 

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I first watched Annie Hall about two years ago. I've watched it once since then (for a class), and both times I have despised it. Sure, the breaking of the fourth wall is cool, and it's got some funny lines, but as a whole, I hate it.

Scott Pilgrim, I loved. That is all.
 

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MovieBob said:
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Did Scott Pilgrim just change the way movies tell stories?

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See, the problem is, for a movie to introduce an enduring story-telling element, the movie has to be successful, or it has to be an idea that will have wide-spread appeal.

Sorry Bob. What Scott Pilgrim did falls outside of both of those qualifiers: it was not wildly successful, and frankly, although growing, the Video Game subculture is still a subculture.