Its never really mentioned or perhaps suggested, so maybe I am just pulling it out of my ass, but fantasy is fantasy, what if the long winters are a product of the Night King existing? With him destroyed, maybe Winter is supposed to no longer be a years long thing.Gethsemani said:
Hey, if Starbucks Winterfell survived an army of the dead, then perhaps so could the Kings Landing outlets?McElroy said:
Maybe so, and if I was in a more forgiving mood I'd use that as my head canon. But it would at least behoove the actual writers of the show to provide or mention that Deus Ex Machina within the show if such was the case, instead of leaving the winter (which has been built up as dangerous for nearly as long as the NK) without any further mention past S8E2. It even makes some semblance of sense, so the only explanation for why someone didn't drop a line like "it is getting warmer now, innit?" is that the writers either didn't care or didn't remember what they did earlier in the season script.Saelune said:
If that's the case, why was there snow in King's Landing during the final episode if winter was... not happening?Gethsemani said:
If anything, that cements Jaime as the worst Kingslayer in Seven Kingdoms. He only managed to kill his first king, by backstabbing him like a coward(afaik), he couldn't succesfully kill the current king when he was only a little boy, and he died trying to save the last de iure king. Really poor record at kingslaying, if you ask me.Chimpzy said:
Supposed to be ash. (...i know.)Abomination said:
The city got burned to all hell, so I'm prtty sure it's supposed to be ash. There have been cases of ash 'snow' falling after forest fires and other large blazes, so it's plausible.Abomination said:
Still, one successful kill of an actual King of the Seven Kingdoms and one failed attempt of a future one is a better tally than any other character.MrCalavera said:
Because they needed to get that sweet Season 2 reference of Dany's vision, of which the Iron Throne with snow on it is an almost 1:1 recreation. I'm on your side here though, it doesn't make a lick of sense and it is obvious the showrunners didn't bother to think about the winter at all.Abomination said:
It is definitely meant to be snow, it is seen very clearly in the throne room/iron throne scene when Dany touches the thin layer on the throne itself. What she touches is crisp and reflective and not dull and thick. So unless the props department sucks (and they don't), we are meant to believe that it is winter coming to King's Landing. And magically disappearing in the time it takes for Tyrion to be brought to trial, at which point you got blooming deciduous trees in the background.Chimpzy said:
You, sir, are correct. Upon second viewing, it is snow. Sounds like it when stepped on too.Gethsemani said:
Because right now we have a completed show, which most people agree is somewhat lacking on the execution leading up to the end, probably due to the writers/showrunners(who are also writing the show) not being terribly good at the whole writing thing. OTOH, Martin has 2 full books that we know little about other then a few chapters that he's released and that apparently Martin gave the showrunners the Major plot points to work from.Saelune said:
There are some pretty major differences even by the point the series passes the books. The show clearly decided to dispense with a lot of somewhat significant characters (The Blackfish, Mance Rayder, Ser Barristan Selmy); others like Rickon Stark, Stannis Baratheon and family look to be facing rather different arcs. Several characters with a major part to play are not even in the TV show: Wyman Manderley for instance has a major part to play in the North in the books.Dalisclock said:
