Game of thrones: why is it so WRONG.?

[El Danny]

All you guys complaining about the changes in the TV series do realise George RR Martin plays a major role in the shows plot development? Most changes are ran though George before they're written in, or are his ideas to begin with.

That's not saying much. If you paid attention to his blog leading up to the release of the series, you'd have noticed that Martin had a major case of the fanboys going on. He seems absolutely tickled pink to see his material up on the screen, and I suspect he's not too arsed one way or the other about changes. That's fine if he approves the changes...they're his books and ultimately it's his show as well...but that doesn't make them good changes.

Not arsed about the changes? Despite the fact he turned down an offer to turn the ASoIaF into movies before HBO offered him a contract on the basis that a movie series wouldn't have enough screen length do it justice?

 

[Johnny Impact]

I have a more pertinent question for you, though, why don't you grow up and acquire some better aesthetics?

Dear diary: today I was told off by Some Misanthrope On The Internet. I may never sleep soundly again.

(You'll have to imagine the tear-smudged ink.)

 

[Nepenthe87]

I've already got a truck of theories for the books. (and yeah, there's far to much foreshadowing when it comes to a few characters. I'm sure of the fates of Cersei (Exactly sure), all the 'starks' but rickon and sansa. Daenerys i expect to have live.

Prophecies are the worst plot device.

Since you're obviously a book reader...

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On the subject of Dany...you don't think there's a strong chance she's going to end up being Nissa Nissa to Jon Snow's Azor Ahai?

I actually have a very different theory on that...

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Dany is the Azhor Azhai and Drogo was her Nissa Nissa. He did have to die for her to have her dragons, just like Nissa Nissa had to die for Azhor Azhai's flaming sword, and she was born in smoke and salt (on dragonstone island). Maester Aemon talks about how a dragon's gender is interchangeable and the prince could be a princess if it needed to be. although maybe I'm looking at things too symbolically.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

I actually have a very different theory on that...

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Dany is the Azhor Azhai and Drogo was her Nissa Nissa. He did have to die for her to have her dragons, just like Nissa Nissa had to die for Azhor Azhai's flaming sword, and she was born in smoke and salt (on dragonstone island). Maester Aemon talks about how a dragon's gender is interchangeable and the prince could be a princess if it needed to be. although maybe I'm looking at things too symbolically.

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That's a good theory, but how do you account for the prophecy that clearly points at Jon? The whole "He is the prince who was promised, and his is the song of Ice (Lyanna Stark) and Fire (Rhaegar Targaryen)" bit? It seems inevitable that he is the central figure in the narrative.

 

[Nepenthe87]

I actually have a very different theory on that...

Spoiler

Dany is the Azhor Azhai and Drogo was her Nissa Nissa. He did have to die for her to have her dragons, just like Nissa Nissa had to die for Azhor Azhai's flaming sword, and she was born in smoke and salt (on dragonstone island). Maester Aemon talks about how a dragon's gender is interchangeable and the prince could be a princess if it needed to be. although maybe I'm looking at things too symbolically.

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That's a good theory, but how do you account for the prophecy that clearly points at Jon? The whole "He is the prince who was promised, and his is the song of Ice (Lyanna Stark) and Fire (Rhaegar Targaryen)" bit? It seems inevitable that he is the central figure in the narrative.

That only works if...

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If you believe Jon is Lyanna and Rhaegar's son (which I don't, really, it's a compelling theory, but im not sold on it). Little more than Lyanna forcing Ned to secrecy points to him being their child. If Rhaegar believed he was the prince or was at least one of the three heads of the dragon why would he and lyanna want to keep that a secret? To me, Jon hasn't seemed to be terribly central to the plot IMO (his fate is left ambiguous at the end of ADWD), he could be dead in The Winds of Winter for all we know. To me he was mostly the viewpoint with which to view the problems on the wall, but now there is Melisandre and maybe other character whom we can see the events at the wall through. Even though she is far away from Westeros Daenerys seems to be the one has the most "plot armor," and her story seems to echo Aegon the conqueror.

if he does survive, and is shown to be Rhaegar's son I still doubt he is the prince that was promised. Maybe he is one of the three heads of the dragon along with Aegon VI, if the heads have to be of Targaryen blood.

to me Dany fits the bill of the prophechy more than anyone else, regardless of her bloodline.

Aemon talks about how a dragon's gender is interchangable, and if a Targeryen (who consider themselves actual dragons in human form) is the prince that was promised then it could be either a prince or a princess.

Besides, I doubt his stark honor would allow him to kill Daenerys for a sword, especially if they fell in love somehow. Azhor Azhai didnt just kill anyone for his flaming sword, he killed the person he cherished most in the world (as did Dany kill Drogo when she got her dragons). With how much Dany feels the Starks are to blame for her exile, along with the Baretheons, and Lannisters, I doubt she would warm up to Jon.

 

[Innocent Flower]

Solid theories. but you've gotta remember how easy it is to explain how crazy aerys was. Jon can't blame her for killing his grandfather and uncle that he never knew. she can't realy blame him for killing her crazy father. They're almost the same age . If daenerys has a mistrust for Starks, it's because of Jorah Mormont.