Games or developers you hate on principle
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I stopped there. Seriously, you're going to hate a game/developer on principle because their IP is loved by fans and critics alike? I don't really follow - just seems like you're trying to rebel against something that doesn't really deserve it.OhJohnNo said:
I don't think there are any developers that I'd stick my nose up at, on principle. I lavish support when support is due, and when it's not, in my opinion, I simply won't buy their game.
There's a whole shitload of people who really need to read what I wrote, rather than just skimming it and jumping to their own conclusions.Marowit said:
I hate Half Life 2 (irrationally, I'll admit) because of its capacity to apparently magically transmogrify an unfortunate proportion of its fans (at least on this site) into total douchebags. And before you say anything about the Halo games and their fans, i've never seen it happen with them. Perhaps I just visit the
You are speaking out of your arse, tbh. I bought my computer for £500 (roughly 600 euros), including monitor, keyboard, mouse etc about 5 years ago. I've had to spend £20 on a new PCU because my old one broke uring a power surge (I assume) and £30 on a new graphics card (after the old ones fan broke off and the card overheated), that is all. Still easily runs everything I can throw at it, sure for heavy stuff I need to turn graphical settings down, but it still works fine, usually on medium/high and, to be honest I don't see that much difference between the graphics on my computer and on my 360 and PS3. Would need to go on a case by case basis if I had to say which was slightly better. Even less difference when I'm actually playing since as long as I can see what's what I don't really care about graphics. On top of that it can do countless more tasks than a console can, and it's very easy and cheap to upgrade it, when the time comes that you do need to do so. You are heavily exaggerating the cost of computers.Ampersand said:
Edit: OT: Can't think of maybe. Few devs and game series that I will be wary of before buying, but nothing I can say I hate. Other than possibly MW2. Find it much easier to say what games and developers I love.
There are really no games I "hate" on principle except those of the quick cash-out kind. (Shovelware- mostly on Wii, as big a fan of the Wii that I am) The big one that jumps to mind is Halo. I liked the first one when I played it. I didn't love it- I never played it online, 4 player local was fun, and I especially liked the first few missions of the campaign. But everyone seemed to think it was a godsend, and the same goes for all the new ones. None of them have been very remarkable. Outside of establishing a great control scheme FPS' on consoles and the clever dual-weilding with L and R independently, the games haven't given me anything to write home about. The most fun I've had with the series is in playing customized game types- forge is the best thing about the new games. I in no way think that they're bad. I just firmly believe, without any exageration, that it's the most over-rated series of all time, and most of the people who go gaga over it are uncultured in gaming and nostalgiea driven.
OhJohnNo said:
So, let me get this straight:
Your irrational dislike of a game A.O.K. and worthy of a thread slathered with your own personal bias.
Others irrational (or rational if they have played through the game and have legitimate gripes) dislike/like of a game derails any rational conversation about a game...
Hmmm, seems like it's pretty hypocritical. I agree with you, the blind fanboy-ism that HL2 can engender is pretty silly (and can neuter conversations), but so is every other kind of blind fanboy-ism. So no, I don't need to finish reading what you wrote, nor do others - by flogging a group of fanboys you invite such treatment by firmly placing your backing with a group of fanboys. If you wanted to avoid that you could have easily done so by leaving out that personal anecdote about HL2 fanboys. Just like I'm leaving out my personal anecdotes about Halo fanboys you've so expertly avoided, somehow.
That is superfluous, they are in completely different leagues. I am a PS3 gamer, and I admit that PC gaming is superior. It has better hardware, is upgradeable, and has a longer lifetime. I mean yeah sure its more expensive, but your not just paying for a console are you.Ampersand said:
Ubisoft - DRM
Activision - Bobby Kotick (Need i say more?)
EA - The whole used games thing for a start.
I'm sorry to drag the thread backward like this, but I just have to respond to the people (real or percieved) saying Half-Life 2 has a brilliant story.
What? Were you playing the same game I was? There's almost no story at all! Or rather, there's an incredibly large and complex story that the game never actually tells us, preferring to just drop tiny hints all over the place (which I actually think is a very effective and interesting approach to storytelling, but I'm trying to make a point here). As for the main narrative, I can't even remember any plot points. No, "the base is attacked so you have to go through Ravenholm" is not a plot point, it's just an excuse to go from Point A to Point B whenever the game tells us, knowing that the path will inexplicably lead to the final boss fight (you vs. an unarmed man who can't defend himself, and you're equipped with the super-powered weapon that can kill people and defile their corpses at the same time by clicking on them once, but it's okay because two instances of the recurring miniboss fight are going on at the same time. Hooray.).
I will say that Half-Life 2 is without a doubt the best game I have ever played, but that's for its incredibly intuitive and varied gameplay and beautifully presented scripted sequences, not its story.
What? Were you playing the same game I was? There's almost no story at all! Or rather, there's an incredibly large and complex story that the game never actually tells us, preferring to just drop tiny hints all over the place (which I actually think is a very effective and interesting approach to storytelling, but I'm trying to make a point here). As for the main narrative, I can't even remember any plot points. No, "the base is attacked so you have to go through Ravenholm" is not a plot point, it's just an excuse to go from Point A to Point B whenever the game tells us, knowing that the path will inexplicably lead to the final boss fight (you vs. an unarmed man who can't defend himself, and you're equipped with the super-powered weapon that can kill people and defile their corpses at the same time by clicking on them once, but it's okay because two instances of the recurring miniboss fight are going on at the same time. Hooray.).
I will say that Half-Life 2 is without a doubt the best game I have ever played, but that's for its incredibly intuitive and varied gameplay and beautifully presented scripted sequences, not its story.
No, I'm not creating this thread just so I can rant on about how much I hate Valve fanboys. I created so I could hear tales of any other people who hate a game or developer on principle. You know, just like the thread title and first post say, except since you "stopped there" you have no clear understanding of what I'm actually trying to do here.Marowit said:
Read the thread. It helps with comprehension and avoids misunderstandings. I go to another forum where it's actually a rule that you have to read or at least skim the thread before you post in it. Maybe it should be like that here.
Well actually that is just plain dead wrong. Also having a high end PC does make you hard core where the fuck are you getting that from. Also on PC we enjoy games too otherwise we wouldn't play them. Why does the fact that I game on PC mean I don't enjoy games t hat is a completely pointless eiditon to your argument.Ampersand said:
If you are talking about Wii or 360 on so many levels especally on hardware side. Just for 1 example my comp has 4x the ram of a 360. I have gone through 2 PCs in 1 and half console generations so no most normal people have not gone through 2 PCs. From scratch you can make a PC for under 1,000 euro that will last as long as a console. This is where people completely forget about PC is more expensive than console argument you have to actually buy games.
On average I have bought 14 games per year over my life. That is say 10 new games a year. Those 10 new games cost between 10 and 20 euro less on a PC than on console and that is not including Steam sales and other stuff. So over the course of 5 years which is how long said PC would last you would save 500-1,000 euro on games. Also a PC can do 100% from the get go to use a console at 100% capacity you need to buy a HDTV and a Surround Sound. HDTV costing between 200+ for a decent one and Surround Sound can cost over 100 so factor that in your console costs around 600 for starting costs to do what a PC does 1,000 so that is 400 more.
Now through in the 250 for online subs over the 5 years your up to 850. So if you want to go from scratch all you have to go is average out at buying around 3 new games a year/5 years to bring the difference to equal maybe even less.
So I won't argue on the hassle part as that is part of PC gaming which is why we like it for the flexibility. Also PC gaming is not about having top graphics. While we can if we want and have the money that is not what is generally cared about. So taking that in as the point of PC you could spend even less to get a proper gaming computer that would cost about 500-750 and last for about 2-3.
Also during the time of the PC the moeny you would save would go to upgrading over time which the only thing you really have to upgrade is graphics card and Ram. Considering that those go for around 100 min for an update each it is really like buying a new console if you want to go for post start up costs. Buying a new console would also cost around 200 so post start up costs(ie already having a gaming PC/ HDTV surround sound) actually remains more or less the same. Only the odd time will you really need to update the processor so overall a PC is equal to in price or cheap than a console.
Dude you're reading this out of context. I don't care about what people game one. I don't play on PC anymore because it was to much hastle (FOR ME!!!) What you want to play games on is your buisness. My original comment was that i don't like it when people are snoby about what ever platform they're on.KaosuHamoni said: