Meh... even the worst games teach me something... so no game should have never existed. Oprhan: Scion of Sorcery is one of the worst games I've ever played. I own it. I even play it once in a while.
I agree. New Vegas was quite enjoyable, and it was different "enough" from Fallout 3.ChupathingyX said:If New Vegas is a DLC then it is the biggest DLC in gaming history.Bling1907 said:Fallout: New Vegas. It looks like a re-release with little new elements. Simply could made as a DLC.
But of course it is a DLC if it has more quests and factions than Fallout 3, not to mention a differnet setting, different factions, more weapons, new game mechanics, more grey morality, a completely different plot with branching choices (something even F3 didn't have) and not to mention hundreds and even thousands of play (replay) value.
And of course I can't forget the "little new elements" such as;
*Iron sights
*Special VATS melee attacks
*Special Unarmed attacks that can be learned
*Different unarmed attacks
*Survival - and everything that stems from that (e.g. campfires)
*The companion wheel
*The fusion of small/big guns
*New speech system that isn't luck based
*Taking normal damage in VATS instead of only 10%
*Perks every other level
*Traits
*Weapon mods
*Companion perks
*The ability to become homosexual
*Nerve
*The reputation system
*Gambling
*Hardcore mode
*New animations
*Changing the character's age (useless, but a nice addition)
*Challenges
*Medical implants
*Unique weapons now have unique designs
*Damage Threshold
*Night vision
*"Dumb" dialogue
*Ammunition creation
And if that isn't enough, I could bring out my ol' wall o' text regarding why Fallout: New Vegas was a good game compared to F3 and deserved to be released.
Also...
I could be interpreting that wrong, but it sounds like you haven't actually played the game.Fallout: New Vegas. It looks like a re-release with little new elements. Simply could made as a DLC.
And if it is a DLC, then it's probably one of the only (or few, I'm not sure) DLCs to ever have DLC released for it.
The funny thing is, all the quirks and hidden things found in Melee like wavedashing and playing as Master Hand, were not intentional but made the game as some know today. I believe I read somewhere that Sakurai said Melee was a little rushed. But people play that game hard still to this day. However, with Brawl, he took his time developing things and look how it turns out. Brawl is a very good game, but compared to Melee, nothing.Nazulu said:SSB Brawl is the first on my list for not only failing to live up to Melee, but also just failing in general in design and mechanics. I would really like to know how they had gone from the amazing game play in Melee to the floaty, glitchy, campy, shallow garbage that is Brawl.
Starcraft 2, because I really hate what they have done with the story and how they have laid it out.
Also, Twilight Princess, while a good game, they could have used the design to start a new franchise I believe. I don't know, it just feels like a waste.
Actually, the Bethesda RPGs run far better on consoles than on PCs. Every time someone starts complaining about some glitch in Fallout or Oblivion, they're usually a Computer Gamer. I know a lot of console gamers who play these games, and they've never bitched. A friend of mine started playing the PC version of New Vegas the same time I started the console version and comparatively, I had the much better time of it. Not trying to stir an argument, I'm just stating what I've seen.Lucyfer86 said:Oblivion, that unimmersive, bland, bug ridden piece of sh... well, waste of money that is.
Only way to make it even remotely enjoyable is by heavy modding (good luck with that, console players).
You can play as Master Hand in Melee!?Xeraxis said:The funny thing is, all the quirks and hidden things found in Melee like wavedashing and playing as Master Hand, were not intentional but made the game as some know today. I believe I read somewhere that Sakurai said Melee was a little rushed. But people play that game hard still to this day. However, with Brawl, he took his time developing things and look how it turns out. Brawl is a very good game, but compared to Melee, nothing.Nazulu said:SSB Brawl is the first on my list for not only failing to live up to Melee, but also just failing in general in design and mechanics. I would really like to know how they had gone from the amazing game play in Melee to the floaty, glitchy, campy, shallow garbage that is Brawl.
Starcraft 2, because I really hate what they have done with the story and how they have laid it out.
Also, Twilight Princess, while a good game, they could have used the design to start a new franchise I believe. I don't know, it just feels like a waste.
So, a game that had unintentional features (Melee) was better recieved compared to a game that Sakurai took his time and dedication on (Brawl). What does that tell you?
Yeah, you can actually. This was found out less than 2 years ago. It still amazes me people find new things in this game after close to 10 years it has been out.binnsyboy said:You can play as Master Hand in Melee!?Xeraxis said:The funny thing is, all the quirks and hidden things found in Melee like wavedashing and playing as Master Hand, were not intentional but made the game as some know today. I believe I read somewhere that Sakurai said Melee was a little rushed. But people play that game hard still to this day. However, with Brawl, he took his time developing things and look how it turns out. Brawl is a very good game, but compared to Melee, nothing.Nazulu said:SSB Brawl is the first on my list for not only failing to live up to Melee, but also just failing in general in design and mechanics. I would really like to know how they had gone from the amazing game play in Melee to the floaty, glitchy, campy, shallow garbage that is Brawl.
Starcraft 2, because I really hate what they have done with the story and how they have laid it out.
Also, Twilight Princess, while a good game, they could have used the design to start a new franchise I believe. I don't know, it just feels like a waste.
So, a game that had unintentional features (Melee) was better recieved compared to a game that Sakurai took his time and dedication on (Brawl). What does that tell you?
Ah the fanboi talk. If you people wanna play broken down, bland RPG (my opinion ONLY) then fine, just don't come here raging if someone doesn't like it (even if that was sarcasm, it was pretty bad). Leveling was horrid, and level scaling monsters & items were also just... there's no words for it.RickRoll said:Yeah what is that guy talking about? Oblivion!? Seriously! Oblivion rocks! He probably just sucks at it...Scythax said:Of all the games to choose... that's easily my favorite game of all time. And won Game of the Year. And is considered by many as, along side Mass Effect, the best RPG in the last decade.Lucyfer86 said:Oblivion, that unimmersive, bland, bug ridden piece of... well, waste of money that is.
Only way to make it even remotely enjoyable is by heavy modding.
I'd say, every Fable after Fable: Lost Chapters, Crysis 2, the single player sides of Bad Company 1 and 2, and Every COD after 4.
Maybe on technical point of view, i merely ment that i just hated the leveling system and scaling monsters and their items(not that scaling is always bad, in this game it just was). So only way i could find it enjoyable to play was to mod at least leveling system somewhat less retarded. And there were several bugs (maybe caused by several mods i used) but i don't remember them specificly anymore, it's been a while..binnsyboy said:Actually, the Bethesda RPGs run far better on consoles than on PCs. Every time someone starts complaining about some glitch in Fallout or Oblivion, they're usually a Computer Gamer. I know a lot of console gamers who play these games, and they've never bitched. A friend of mine started playing the PC version of New Vegas the same time I started the console version and comparatively, I had the much better time of it. Not trying to stir an argument, I'm just stating what I've seen.Lucyfer86 said:Oblivion, that unimmersive, bland, bug ridden piece of sh... well, waste of money that is.
Only way to make it even remotely enjoyable is by heavy modding (good luck with that, console players).
I found the terrible range of voice actors in Oblivion to be hilarious, but other than that, the world was interesting.
OT: I'm not sure. Of course there are games I don't like, but none I really think "shouldn't exist". It's all about progress.
If I had to complain, I'd say Mirror's Edge. That game had far too concretely set levels for a game centered on a parkour mechanic. It was an okayish game, but they sort of took the "free" out of Free-Running.
Of course its not like the game cashes easily at around 60 hours and up in gametime if you play it without the Dlc's and has a completely different tone, factionsystem and skillsystem..but of course yeah..should just have been released as a 10 dollar DLC.Bling1907 said:Fallout: New Vegas. It looks like a re-release with little new elements. Simply could made as a DLC.
You do realize that game was the straw that broke the camel's back and killed the games industry for a time right? I don't think dieing helped out games any.sage42 said:actually I'm gonna defend E.T. don't get me wrong it was a crap game, but without it games would not have evolved into what they are today. They would have just become another little toy for people to make for quick cash.Twilight_guy said:I'm getting sick of saying E.T. and Superman 64 so I'm going with something new: Hotel Mario and Mario is missing. I hear they were both pretty god awful.
Also, Mass Effect 4, which actually ripped space-time and created a black hole that destroyed its own existence.Nothing else...
OT: Alan Wake, hated that game. It was not scary, the game play sucked, and the story was bland at best. It was just a Silent Hill(pre-Homecoming)knock-off
[/quote]Scythax said:Of all the games to choose... that's easily my favorite game of all time. And won Game of the Year. And is considered by many as, along side Mass Effect, the best RPG in the last decade.
I'd say, every Fable after Fable: Lost Chapters, Crysis 2, the single player sides of Bad Company 1 and 2, and Every COD after 4.