Just something small that annoyed me; you don't use lasers in Mass Effect. Apart from that one particle beam in ME2, which technically isn't a laser either.TestECull said:
Games you couldn't understand the hype over?
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Bethesda titles in general past Morrowind.
I absolutely loathe being a gamer when the Bethesda hype train comes a rollin' to cut off all other topics of gaming discussion like it's cutting off my morning commute.
I can elaborate all day as to why I feel this way, but given that the topic is just one of those sampler topics, I already know that nobody really cares. So why bother justifying an opinion? I have my reasons. I have a LOT of background-experience with Bethesda games.
This isn't an opinion brought on by one or two bad experiences; it's a long, winding trail of tears and misery in the land of "Bethesda didn't really give a fuck".
Anyway...
The Bethesda-MegaGame fanbase is the only one that I can think of who paradoxically continues to lower their standards while raising their expectations with each new game, and is the only fanbase that continues to grow under such conditions.
No other community I can think of does this; who has been so willing to pay top dollar for such buggy and increasingly shallow products.
It's come to the point where they were willing to blindly throw the highest of accolades at these games WELL IN ADVANCE OF THEIR RELEASE DATES. Given that trend, I'm rightly confused as to how it keeps happening, and how it keeps getting hyped to the heavens.
I absolutely loathe being a gamer when the Bethesda hype train comes a rollin' to cut off all other topics of gaming discussion like it's cutting off my morning commute.
I can elaborate all day as to why I feel this way, but given that the topic is just one of those sampler topics, I already know that nobody really cares. So why bother justifying an opinion? I have my reasons. I have a LOT of background-experience with Bethesda games.
This isn't an opinion brought on by one or two bad experiences; it's a long, winding trail of tears and misery in the land of "Bethesda didn't really give a fuck".
Anyway...
The Bethesda-MegaGame fanbase is the only one that I can think of who paradoxically continues to lower their standards while raising their expectations with each new game, and is the only fanbase that continues to grow under such conditions.
No other community I can think of does this; who has been so willing to pay top dollar for such buggy and increasingly shallow products.
It's come to the point where they were willing to blindly throw the highest of accolades at these games WELL IN ADVANCE OF THEIR RELEASE DATES. Given that trend, I'm rightly confused as to how it keeps happening, and how it keeps getting hyped to the heavens.
For me it has to be Journey; maybe I'm just a soulless husk of a person but this game just didn't stir anything in me above a mild admiration for the concept.
Skyrim - pretty enough, nice enough gameplay but too glitchy and I didn't feel driven enough to actually complete the storyline (I didn't really do anything past the starting quests until I'd finished the Dark Brotherhood line...and still haven't finished the main storyline because I can't be bothered).
Prototype - Looked awful and I had no idea why I was supposed to care about any of the characters, least of all Alex Mercer. The only positive was that the movement system was fluid
Anything with terrible graphics - I don't know why, it just really annoys me.
Prototype - Looked awful and I had no idea why I was supposed to care about any of the characters, least of all Alex Mercer. The only positive was that the movement system was fluid
Anything with terrible graphics - I don't know why, it just really annoys me.
Now, the building aspect is fun, thats why I bought it when it only had the build mode. Then they tried to make a pseudo-survival rpg type...mess. I can't understand why THAT part is popular. Whats fun about stretching out the time it takes to build something and fill it with farming materials while getting killed over and over again? I don't know, its just not fun to me.Djinn8 said:
And guys, seriously? Some of you can't understand why CoD is so popular? Cmon now, its been years since Modern Warfare 2, we know this already.
Curious. Now, I'm not a fan of jrpg games and dating sims, and find the concept of the game to be just...ridiculous (which translates to most people on the internet to: I'm an insecure, childish call of duty fan and "just don't get it"), but I would like to know what is offensive about it?=HCFS=Discoman said:
Fable 3
I was a big fan of the original Fable, and after playing the abhorrent sequel, I couldn't for the life of me fathom why anyone would be even a little excited for 3. Sure enough from what I have seen it is also terrible.
Skyward Sword
I am not entierly sure why people were pissing their pants over the trailers. I didn't see a single thing in them that looked exciting. And yes, I am a HUGE Zelda fan. Skyward Sword just looked like Twilight Princess(but not as good) with really washed out colors. Now that the game is out the annoying sword, lack of any overworld and the mandatory motion controls really depress me. I would say no sale, but I am unfortunate enough to have already bought and played it. I can't believe this game is getting perfect 10s. But then again every game gets a perfect 10 now. People are just too damned excited about new things apparently.
Half Life 2
Cool, claustrophobic yet complex level design? Nope.
Amazing, new abominations from beyond the stars around every corner? Nope.
It killed the game for me that these things from HL1 were absent, mostly because I was looking for these exclusively. Overall it was an ok game, but it didn't even feel like an actual sequel, it just felt like a tech demo for their new engine with a Half Life theme added. I just wanted imagination, and instead of got what felt like a thinly veiled war shooter out in the country. Fighting other humanoids with guns was the most boring part of HL1, and HL2 was all about that, yuck.
I was a big fan of the original Fable, and after playing the abhorrent sequel, I couldn't for the life of me fathom why anyone would be even a little excited for 3. Sure enough from what I have seen it is also terrible.
Skyward Sword
I am not entierly sure why people were pissing their pants over the trailers. I didn't see a single thing in them that looked exciting. And yes, I am a HUGE Zelda fan. Skyward Sword just looked like Twilight Princess(but not as good) with really washed out colors. Now that the game is out the annoying sword, lack of any overworld and the mandatory motion controls really depress me. I would say no sale, but I am unfortunate enough to have already bought and played it. I can't believe this game is getting perfect 10s. But then again every game gets a perfect 10 now. People are just too damned excited about new things apparently.
Half Life 2
Cool, claustrophobic yet complex level design? Nope.
Amazing, new abominations from beyond the stars around every corner? Nope.
It killed the game for me that these things from HL1 were absent, mostly because I was looking for these exclusively. Overall it was an ok game, but it didn't even feel like an actual sequel, it just felt like a tech demo for their new engine with a Half Life theme added. I just wanted imagination, and instead of got what felt like a thinly veiled war shooter out in the country. Fighting other humanoids with guns was the most boring part of HL1, and HL2 was all about that, yuck.
I liked NV but hated Fallout 3. I put 25hrs into F3 and it didn't a damn thing for me.Casey Bowen said:
First of all, they're entire race looks like that, and little girls don't have huge thighs like that, and they don't have males, so its ok to fantasize about screwing pre-pubescent looking girls. Its totally normal, sheesh.Metalhandkerchief said:
^is basically what I have heard for defense of the loli race. Its quite pathetic to be honest. And I think it suffers the same problem Dragon Age 2 had with its combat. Making it actiony just made it so that you have to constantly spam buttons instead of auto-attack.
And in defense of Guild Wars 2, we can all see exactly whats its like from the footage and its quite different in many, many aspects from the traditional mmo. Just because a few people in the UNFINISHED BETA are a bit grumpy, doesn't mean we should automatically listen to their opinions without question. Does it have too much hype? All mmos do because everyone demands it kill WoW.
Mass Effect 3, there was just warning flags going off in my head that it was going to be disappointing and yet it was hyped and failed to meet expectations. I just want to scream "how are you surprised?!"
Also Duke Nukem Forever, I can kind of understand the hype of him returning but I didn't get the unrealistic expectations of it being the best shooter. It's Duke Nukem, I don't recall it being better than any shooter, just shooting aliens with adult humor. And my adult humor I mean thinks that please your inner middle schooler who laughs at crudely drawn penises.
I guess it's less of people being excited over a certain game since people have different taste but how/why do they have such unreasonable expectations and think it's going to be the best thing ever or change gaming.
Also Duke Nukem Forever, I can kind of understand the hype of him returning but I didn't get the unrealistic expectations of it being the best shooter. It's Duke Nukem, I don't recall it being better than any shooter, just shooting aliens with adult humor. And my adult humor I mean thinks that please your inner middle schooler who laughs at crudely drawn penises.
I guess it's less of people being excited over a certain game since people have different taste but how/why do they have such unreasonable expectations and think it's going to be the best thing ever or change gaming.
I never understood the hype behind the following series: (Warning: Wall o' Text Ahead.
Halo - It's a competent game, but I've played 1 and 2 and I found them completely boring, and the large maps are easy to get lost in. The multiplayer can be fun, but I personally think ANY multiplayer has more to do with the people you play with more than the game. Unless you play online, and then it's the community as a whole.
Gears of War - Big burly men in powered armor with a chainsaw-rifle fighting humanoid aliens... Again, a competent game, but as Yahtzee said in his review for 3 (or was it 2?) The only level I really remember in the series is the inside of the worm, mainly since that's one location that isn't visited too often. Online multiplayer is extremely lag-infested (1 and 2), and split screen multiplayer is boring (2v2 at the most is SERIOUSLY boring in any shooter imo)
Any military shooter that came out after CoD4 - Most shooters that came out before CoD4 had some form of bizarre or unique appeal to it(Most didn't try to be real or modern. Most 'real' shooters were based on WW2, and most 'modern' shooters took place in an alternate reality.). And really military shooters didn't get really popular until after CoD4 (I didn't hear my friends talking about any shooter apart from Halo, to be fair), and every game since than has been the same formula that CoD4 had but with added cheese and one-ups-manship. I understand that some people like the over-the-top stories. But what gets me is that people will pay $60 for what is essentially an expansion pack for the multiplayer.
For those of you saying Skyrim, it's essentially a Role Player's wet dream. After the tutorial you're free to be your character. Though I wish the game didn't make you into the world-savior from the get go. I think it would be much more interesting if you start as a nobody but as you progress the story your actions turn you into the world-savior, and not just "Hey, you're the PC you're the Dragonborn."
Halo - It's a competent game, but I've played 1 and 2 and I found them completely boring, and the large maps are easy to get lost in. The multiplayer can be fun, but I personally think ANY multiplayer has more to do with the people you play with more than the game. Unless you play online, and then it's the community as a whole.
Gears of War - Big burly men in powered armor with a chainsaw-rifle fighting humanoid aliens... Again, a competent game, but as Yahtzee said in his review for 3 (or was it 2?) The only level I really remember in the series is the inside of the worm, mainly since that's one location that isn't visited too often. Online multiplayer is extremely lag-infested (1 and 2), and split screen multiplayer is boring (2v2 at the most is SERIOUSLY boring in any shooter imo)
Any military shooter that came out after CoD4 - Most shooters that came out before CoD4 had some form of bizarre or unique appeal to it(Most didn't try to be real or modern. Most 'real' shooters were based on WW2, and most 'modern' shooters took place in an alternate reality.). And really military shooters didn't get really popular until after CoD4 (I didn't hear my friends talking about any shooter apart from Halo, to be fair), and every game since than has been the same formula that CoD4 had but with added cheese and one-ups-manship. I understand that some people like the over-the-top stories. But what gets me is that people will pay $60 for what is essentially an expansion pack for the multiplayer.
For those of you saying Skyrim, it's essentially a Role Player's wet dream. After the tutorial you're free to be your character. Though I wish the game didn't make you into the world-savior from the get go. I think it would be much more interesting if you start as a nobody but as you progress the story your actions turn you into the world-savior, and not just "Hey, you're the PC you're the Dragonborn."
I love the hate for Half Life. I can't explain it, and I'm not trying to be a condescending asshole (it comes naturally) but I find it hilarious how hipster people try to be to....put themselves on a pedestal of self-riteousness? I don't understand why they do it to be honest. I agree with your points though, this thread is just a fandumb fight.ImmortalDrifter said:
And the whole "I don't get why triple A shooters aimed at casual-gaming college males". Please quit it. You know why those games sell lots of copies, you aren't fooling anyone. So you don't like Call of Duty. FASCINATING. I bet you're the pinnacle of human intelligence then.
Fallout: New Vegas. I loved Fallout 3, but for whatever reason New Vegas was a complete flop for me. If Obsidian took an extra year in development to fix the broken quests, ugly enviroments, and all of the other problems, it would be GOMLT (Game of my life time). But for now it serves as my coaster.
This huge-ass rant summarizes my feelings for FO:NV
http://blog.wilshipley.com/2011/01/why-i-hate-new-vegas.html
This huge-ass rant summarizes my feelings for FO:NV
http://blog.wilshipley.com/2011/01/why-i-hate-new-vegas.html
Dragon Age, I don't know why this got so much hype. Its gameplay is boring to look at and is so slow. Its story is so cliched and blatantly steals from other fantasy stories. Only one or two areas did I like but they are few and far between. So I could never understand the hype for this game.
well, to start with, the name is actually offensive. As in, katawa is a word you can't actually say on tv or radio in Japan. While it loosely translates to imperfect girls, a more accurate translation is 'gimp chicks.'Don Savik said:
Another thing is it is supposed to treat the girls and their respective issues with a lot of respect, and it, well, doesn't.
If they wanted to treat issues seriously, they could have started by not using the male character with what seems to be severe schizophrenia as comic relief.
for a game that wasn't supposed to sexualize the girls, you have a bonus option where you collect CGs of the sex scenes with the girls. Images that can be later used as fap material.
Each character path was done by a different writer, with the result that the main character is cold and uncaring in one path, and warm and friendly in another. It's as if the writers didn't consolidate how the main character is supposed to be-different paths create conflicting ideas of how the main character is.
I like the idea behind it though. A Visual Novel (KS is a Visual Novel, not a dating sim. instead of explaining the difference, KS is a Visual Novel, College Romance: Rise of the Little Brother is a Dating Sim.) that uses characters that would never see the light of day in a normal VN, such as the large-breasted girl with odd color hair. No, wait, they have one of those. But they don't have the shy girl who is insecure about something and hides from the protagonist as a result, but later warms up to them. No, wait, they have that too. The characters are basically the standard Visual Novel characters, but someone scribbled 'They're Disabled!' in the margins of the characters sheets.
Sorry if that turned a little ranty.
Interesting, and I don't mind rants at all=HCFS=Discoman said:
I think the art doesn't do the concept justice. They look too plasticy, and the removal of an arm or making one blind doesn't fix this. I don't understand why people who like these games can't see why others are turned off by the overall concept. Its not that people dismiss it because we think people who play them are losers (I myself have never had a girlfriend and am quite awkward, you'd think the ideal target for these kinds of games) its just looks like the game was trying to justify its concept for no reason other than to be different. It seems like everyone was trying to advertise it as being revolutionary as far as VNs go, but by doing so turned out to be other standard VN that just happens to deal with cripples. I don't see any part of the concept enjoyable. People say the characters are troubled and complicated which means its instantly a facsinating game, but having a dark and troubled character is just as cliche as a static character. Troubled angsty teens aren't any more deep and thought provoking than average ordinary adults.I would like to explain my thoughts to my friend, who I've seen playing it recently, but sadly he is the kind (like most on the internet) to dismiss my thoughts because "I just don't get it" because apparently you have to be a deep, emotional, and extroidinary human being to understand these games. *rolls eyes* I think the pretentiousness of the genre's fans is what drives people away to be honest.
Battlefield 3. A lot of people talked about how it was going to break call of duty and that didn´t really work out.
Final Fantasy. There has been so many now I cannot understand why some people still get all worked up about the next installment.
Call of duty. I won´t even say something about COD.
Final Fantasy. There has been so many now I cannot understand why some people still get all worked up about the next installment.
Call of duty. I won´t even say something about COD.
Yeah, I found that as well. they tried to be different with something that really didn't make a difference, but they got a lot of hard-core fans who will defend it to the death.Don Savik said:Interesting, and I don't mind rants at all=HCFS=Discoman said:
I would like to explain my thoughts to my friend, who I've seen playing it recently, but sadly he is the kind (like most on the internet) to dismiss my thoughts because "I just don't get it" because apparently you have to be a deep, emotional, and extroidinary human being to understand these games. *rolls eyes* I think the pretentiousness of the genre's fans is what drives people away to be honest.
Nicely enough, most gamers on, well, game sites and not VN sites seem to be rational about this, but man, you should see the, for lack of a better word, shitstorm that happens when a VN reviewer calls it out.
