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Aw, you guys don't like Fidget? I thought she was adorable.Retrograde said:
That, and she shoots fireballs/lightning, etc.
Games you didn't want to play because of the main protagonist
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That, and she shoots fireballs/lightning, etc.
I'm more worried about David Cage than I am about Ellen Paige. He's not a good writer, which is bad when the whole crux of your game is the story. Also, there's a female protagonist, so I'm not looking forward to seeing what creepy, fetishistic, rape culture situations he forces her into. Honestly, Heavy Rain wanted to make me vomit. He needs some professional writers to help him not suck. I am grateful he's had an influence on other, better, developers, especially adventure game developers. Tell Tale games was influenced by him, despite the fact that the are far superior to him in every way.
I think half the problem is Saint Kevin Conroy, who can apparently do no wrong. He's unbelievably bland in Asylum and only marginally better in City. I can deal with a perpetually growly/angry character, but not one who just sounds ever-so-slightly bored all the way through.Zhukov said:
I'm still not sure if it's funny or horrifying that a man who so plainly cannot write considers himself some messianic figure out to save mainstream gaming, and that the press is so willingly sucked in by it.Fox12 said:
Yes, it would be nice if mainstream gaming was more than just shooty-shooty. No, you don't have to suck the dick off of the first dude to say that just because he's got a budget.
A) Intentionally boring, one-note and joyless is still boring, one-note and joyless.ninjaRiv said:
B) I remember other versions of Batman not being built from purified scowl. The animation series I watched as a kid allowed him some levity and normal human interaction on a regular basis. Hell, even Christian Bale managed to smile a few times. As I recall, both those Batmans were pretty well received.
I can see your point, although Bruce Wayne was responsible for many of those smiles and jokes. I would appreciate some of Batman's dark humour in the Arkham games, though. But I'm pretty sure he cracked a couple of jokes in these games. In fact, I know he did but I can't remember them. It was between him and Oracle...Zhukov said:
Anyway, I thoroughly enjoyed this version of Batman.
I was going to post the same thing.Snowblindblitz said:
I stopped playing when the robot character revealed that he has a fetish for glasses... like in a crappy anime series.
The cast were all anime stereotypes.
I wish that the battle system from this game was in FFXIII. Then Square would have one decent game instead of 2 bad ones.
Most video game protagonists, I care nothing about. It seems like the field is just smattered with macho meatheads, jarheads (even more insufferable), or anime kids who have that bizarre Japanese melodramatic silent staring/lateral conversation thing that's boring and pointless to me because I'm not Japanese.
I guess another aspect is that I basically want the inverse of what's being offered to me. What exist now are a lot of semi-normal modern humans with antisocial or macho personalities. Instead I'd like more fantastical characters with more variable and gregarious personality.
I guess another aspect is that I basically want the inverse of what's being offered to me. What exist now are a lot of semi-normal modern humans with antisocial or macho personalities. Instead I'd like more fantastical characters with more variable and gregarious personality.
There was a period in time when Jap RPGs would present protagonists (always male) who were absolute twats with no understanding of human interaction and so much testosterone that their common sense would be drowned in it.
Case-in-point: The fellow from Front Mission 3. I do not remember the lads name (he might not have had one- player decided name and all that) but whoever he was, he was the lease intelligent character to have ever graced a video game. His plan for wanting to determine the status of his sister (working at an army base at the time) is not to pick of a phone and call her, but rather to steal secret army tech and shoot his way into the base, killing at least five of his fellow countrymen, causing immense property damage to the base and guaranteeing himself a date with the firing squad if he ever shows his face in public ever again.
Those types of protagonists vex me. They vex me greatly.
Case-in-point: The fellow from Front Mission 3. I do not remember the lads name (he might not have had one- player decided name and all that) but whoever he was, he was the lease intelligent character to have ever graced a video game. His plan for wanting to determine the status of his sister (working at an army base at the time) is not to pick of a phone and call her, but rather to steal secret army tech and shoot his way into the base, killing at least five of his fellow countrymen, causing immense property damage to the base and guaranteeing himself a date with the firing squad if he ever shows his face in public ever again.
Those types of protagonists vex me. They vex me greatly.
Yeah, it's even worse in .hack//Roots. In the first half, he's just your regular gruff jerk, then stuff happens and he turns into the most angry asshole ever with a Masters in brooding. Just because online drama happened. Seriously. I dunno, I just think the jump from regular jerk to a pissed-off asshole was a little much.conmag9 said:
OT: Lightning, again. She's just so boring.
Infinite Undiscovery.
Not only the main character but every other one, I get that you're supposed to develop them and get to know them better as the game goes on but starting them all off as arrogant obnoxious jerks isn't the best way to hold my attention.
Not only the main character but every other one, I get that you're supposed to develop them and get to know them better as the game goes on but starting them all off as arrogant obnoxious jerks isn't the best way to hold my attention.
A good chunk of Final Fantasy comes to mind and then of course there's Heavy rain with shall we say "less than rational" bunch.
However it's usually supporting characters that end up irking me the most... and having to save them... urg...
However it's usually supporting characters that end up irking me the most... and having to save them... urg...
Asking the wrong dude, I thought TWD was OK but that's about it. Indeed, I'll raise your controversy with a greater one: I thought Clementine was annoying.Retrograde said:
Likewise, the variations of cause and consequence weren't particularly impressive considering they're basically just stitching Mass Effect cutscenes together and not doing anything else with the game in between.
And to drag it slightly back on topic, Lee had the voice of a man twice his age.
The Last of Us. Loved everything about it except that sociopath Joel. He started growing on me a bit more halfway through, but eurgh.
I agree, if a game protagonist is absurdly muscular I pretty much instantly lose interest.Lilani said:
I can see your point, but I disagree. The difference to me is that, as far as I am concerned, my character in a game is a digital representation of myself. I like to play as characters I can relate strongly with, and recently that means I am only playing games where my character is fully customisable. I can see the appeal of a good story about an interesting character, but for me unless the character is me I tend to lose interest.aguspal said:
There have been exceptions to this rule recently. For example last year I replayed Oblivion as a female, Dark Elf, Vampire former prostitute for a spot of role-play, but this is the exception rather than the rule.
I agree. That is another reason I can't stand Manky Fenix, he's so depressed and angry all the time that I have no sympathy for his plight. If people like him are all that's left then I support the lizard men. Hurry up and wipe out the miserable pricks.Chester Rabbit said:
God of War looks as though it has superb gameplay and combat, but I just can't get behind the idea of controlling Kratos, probably one of the most repulsive, selfish, short-sighted, and unsympathetic characters ever. At least in God of War 1 he had some sympathetic qualities in the back-story, and the bad guy was way more evil than him, but from what I understand all of that is thrown out the window as the series goes on. I heard a synopsis of the 2nd and 3rd games, and I couldn't help but feel that Zeus and the other gods were completely and totally justified in all of the oh-so-terrible things that Kratos wants revenge for (like trying to stop him from constantly murdering things).
I think that him being generally horrible was intentional of the creator's part, but I just can't get behind it.
I think that him being generally horrible was intentional of the creator's part, but I just can't get behind it.
What ever the next Halo game is.
Even though I have faith in 343, with spoiler: Cortana dead I just don't want to listen to Steve Downs try to carry a whole game by himself.
It's scientifically proven that listening to his voice is the leading cause of ear cancer in gamers.
Even though I have faith in 343, with spoiler: Cortana dead I just don't want to listen to Steve Downs try to carry a whole game by himself.
It's scientifically proven that listening to his voice is the leading cause of ear cancer in gamers.
I almost didn't get Final Fantasy XII because I'm not a huge fan of Vaan; he's like the little kid who follows the adults in this grand fantasy adventure. There's nothing interesting about him and I wasn't sure if I could stand to play with him around. Luckily, all the other characters in your party are awesome and interesting, as well as their abilities and skills are interchangeable so yeah, it all worked out in the end.