GameStop Eyeballs Steam's Milkshake

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666Chaos said:
ZeppMan217 said:
I facepalm you, good sir. Don't talk if you don't know.
Lets face it the PC crowd is pissed off because of lack of dedicated servers, cant deny that. After the first few months mw2 had somewhere around 900,000 sales on the pc and was pirated over 5,000,000 times, again cant deny that.
Black ops has dedicated servers for the PC and it still was the #1 most pirated game of 2010.
 

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Now if only GameStop would distribute some of that 2.28 billion to its employees and stop treating them like shit.
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Also I'm not sure how I feel about them badmouthing steam client. I never had an issue with the client and it seems to provide a little more than just a downloaded game
 

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Crono1973 said:
Since they were the biggest player in the used market that keeps physical media alive. Digital Distribution will lead to higher prices because shelf space is not an issue. Shelf space is why games go to the clearance bin. Also, there is no used market for DD games.
Yeah, if I have to pay full price for a game, you better believe there are going to be a lot less games purchased by me each year. I have bought or pre-ordered only four new games this year. But there are a lot of used games I have picked up and played, ensuring that if I ever get the chance to buy a sequel, I will do so.
 

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A: Hello. We believe you're tired of scary monopolies, and were wondering if we could lure you away from the tyranny of Steam with Battlefield 3.

B: Well, I might be willing to try someone new... Who's offering to strike this blow against corporate hegemony?

A: Gamestop.

B: (Hysterical laughter)
 

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Scytail said:
Now if only GameStop would distribute some of that 2.28 billion to its employees and stop treating them like shit.
I agree, makes me wonder sometimes... I've heard some terrible stories from their ex-employee's.
Being a former GameStop employee I have plenty. Thats why on the day I decided to quit I told my DM and store manager they can go fuck themselves.
 

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666Chaos said:
ZeppMan217 said:
I facepalm you, good sir. Don't talk if you don't know.
Lets face it the PC crowd is pissed off because of lack of dedicated servers, cant deny that. After the first few months mw2 had somewhere around 900,000 sales on the pc and was pirated over 5,000,000 times, again cant deny that.
Let's face it - the loudest PC crowd is still a minority. The amount of time CoD related poop stays in the Top 20 Sellers is the proof. Prove me wrong. I double dare ya.
 

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Scytail said:
Now if only GameStop would distribute some of that 2.28 billion to its employees and stop treating them like shit.
Really? It's a retail chain for for high school and college students to work at. They don't need to treat their employees well, because there are 100 gaming students clamoring to get a "cool" job at a video game store. Besides, if the job is shitty then the workers should be motivated to do something like get a job that requires some education.

OT: I've always preferred Impulse as a distribution platform, but it can't just compete with Steam's prices.
 

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Steam vs Impulse who will win?

Who cares, I got both since Steam didn't have Sins of a Solar Empire. While I don't see the same amount of sales from Impulse I do see some. Maybe they will catch up and make my games library the bigger for it.
 

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poppabaggins said:
Scytail said:
Now if only GameStop would distribute some of that 2.28 billion to its employees and stop treating them like shit.
Really? It's a retail chain for for high school and college students to work at. They don't need to treat their employees well, because there are 100 gaming students clamoring to get a "cool" job at a video game store. Besides, if the job is shitty then the workers should be motivated to do something like get a job that requires some education.

OT: I've always preferred Impulse as a distribution platform, but it can't just compete with Steam's prices.
Employers should always treat their employees well.
 

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ash-brewster said:
666Chaos said:
ZeppMan217 said:
I facepalm you, good sir. Don't talk if you don't know.
Lets face it the PC crowd is pissed off because of lack of dedicated servers, cant deny that. After the first few months mw2 had somewhere around 900,000 sales on the pc and was pirated over 5,000,000 times, again cant deny that.
Black ops has dedicated servers for the PC and it still was the #1 most pirated game of 2010.
Maybe cause its a total fuckfest and took around 2-4month before people could play it?
Half the time I try to connect to their profile servers (which is needed for to play mp) it will just loop and crash the game.
 

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I don't think GS has a snowball's chance in getting even a fraction of what their expected revenue is for this new service. Steam isn't just some distribution service, it's also a community. A way to talk to friends and play together. For GS to even even crack that they're going to have to enter a market that Steam, Xfire, and the new Raptr already have a very firm grip on with some thing never done before.

Steam also has insane sales, like grandma eating silly string to get super powers kind of insane. Just a few days ago they sold the entire Sims 3 collection for $80, all that usually costs $230! I bought Portal 2 for 30 bucks! You think GS is going to have those kind of sales, hell to the motha fuckin no.

Steam also has the ability to install your games on multiple computers, just as long as the game is attached to our account. You think GS is going to do that, hell to the motha fuckin no, they'll probably charge a fee extra computers. And doesn't this whole digital distribution goes against GS's whole pawn shop business model?
 

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Tubez said:
ash-brewster said:
666Chaos said:
ZeppMan217 said:
I facepalm you, good sir. Don't talk if you don't know.
Lets face it the PC crowd is pissed off because of lack of dedicated servers, cant deny that. After the first few months mw2 had somewhere around 900,000 sales on the pc and was pirated over 5,000,000 times, again cant deny that.
Black ops has dedicated servers for the PC and it still was the #1 most pirated game of 2010.
Maybe cause its a total fuckfest and took around 2-4month before people could play it?
Half the time I try to connect to their profile servers (which is needed for to play mp) it will just loop and crash the game.
Excuses. Some people will always pirate games even if they were bug-free, content-heavy and perfect in every way. And the same people will always come up with a hundred different excuses to why they did it.

"Oh, I pirate PSP games, it's just a handheld console, it's not like I don't spend my money on the real deal!"

"oh, your game doesn't have female models, oh your game doesn't have nakid chicks!". Excuses.

Crono1973 said:
Aris Khandr said:
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Souplex said:
Why Gamestop?! You were one of the good ones...
Since when was Gamestop one of "the good ones"?
Since they were the biggest player in the used market that keeps physical media alive. Digital Distribution will lead to higher prices because shelf space is not an issue. Shelf space is why games go to the clearance bin.
Eh, the used market (and Gamestop) could die tomorrow, and the gaming landscape would be better for it. They're a vampire sucking at the neck of the industry.
You're wrong, the used market has helped this industry grow and without it, the industry would shrink.
If by helping it grow, you mean getting more people to use their product, then piracy seem to be doing the same thing. Used games doesn't help the industry, it doesn't put any $$$$ in the pockets of the developers and publishers, $$$$ who will you know, help support the industry. The only one who benefits from used sales is the customer and gamestop.
 

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Crono1973 said:
poppabaggins said:
Scytail said:
Now if only GameStop would distribute some of that 2.28 billion to its employees and stop treating them like shit.
Really? It's a retail chain for for high school and college students to work at. They don't need to treat their employees well, because there are 100 gaming students clamoring to get a "cool" job at a video game store. Besides, if the job is shitty then the workers should be motivated to do something like get a job that requires some education.

OT: I've always preferred Impulse as a distribution platform, but it can't just compete with Steam's prices.
Employers should always treat their employees well.
Only if it makes economical sense.
Hell, it's not like they're being tied to the mast and lashed. They even get to take all of the new games home and play them (and then give you those used games when you buy something "new").

Yeah, plenty of workers have it way worse than GameStop employees, so it's really all a bunch of bitching from people who thought that working at a game store would be a dream-come-true.
 

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Have fun making less money, EA. Not that I wanted your game anyway, but if I did, I sure wouldn't buy it from GameStop.
 

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poppabaggins said:
Crono1973 said:
poppabaggins said:
Scytail said:
Now if only GameStop would distribute some of that 2.28 billion to its employees and stop treating them like shit.
Really? It's a retail chain for for high school and college students to work at. They don't need to treat their employees well, because there are 100 gaming students clamoring to get a "cool" job at a video game store. Besides, if the job is shitty then the workers should be motivated to do something like get a job that requires some education.

OT: I've always preferred Impulse as a distribution platform, but it can't just compete with Steam's prices.
Employers should always treat their employees well.
Only if it makes economical sense.
Hell, it's not like they're being tied to the mast and lashed. They even get to take all of the new games home and play them (and then give you those used games when you buy something "new").

Yeah, plenty of workers have it way worse than GameStop employees, so it's really all a bunch of bitching from people who thought that working at a game store would be a dream-come-true.
I don't agree that employees should ONLY be treated well when it makes economic sense.
 

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LOL this is funny cause you cant even purchase any of EAs games in the UK so i guess its the same for the rest of Europe as well.
I don't know where in the UK you live, but I get them fine.

We can't get THQ's games on Steam though. Their pages just come up with an error for us. So we miss out on the preorder bonuses, and I have to buy them from Game.

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OT: I'll just repeat what I always say. A good Online Retail business has to be unbias. To do that, they need to not be a Brick and Mortar Retail and not be a Developer of games. Or own Developers of games, in the case of EA.
So neither Origin, Steam, nor Impulse are Digital Distribution stores I can trust.

Also, EA distribute Valve's games.
 

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Wasn't Gamestop/Impluse the one that had that bullshit warranty charge of like 5 bucks or something to be able to download your game for another 24 months? And the kicker of it was it was auto selected during checkout and you had to manually remove it. I remember reading something like that.
 

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cainx10a said:
Tubez said:
ash-brewster said:
666Chaos said:
ZeppMan217 said:
I facepalm you, good sir. Don't talk if you don't know.
Lets face it the PC crowd is pissed off because of lack of dedicated servers, cant deny that. After the first few months mw2 had somewhere around 900,000 sales on the pc and was pirated over 5,000,000 times, again cant deny that.
Black ops has dedicated servers for the PC and it still was the #1 most pirated game of 2010.
Maybe cause its a total fuckfest and took around 2-4month before people could play it?
Half the time I try to connect to their profile servers (which is needed for to play mp) it will just loop and crash the game.
Excuses. Some people will always pirate games even if they were bug-free, content-heavy and perfect in every way. And the same people will always come up with a hundred different excuses to why they did it.

"Oh, I pirate PSP games, it's just a handheld console, it's not like I don't spend my money on the real deal!"

"oh, your game doesn't have female models, oh your game doesn't have nakid chicks!". Excuses.

Crono1973 said:
Aris Khandr said:
Crono1973 said:
Aris Khandr said:
Souplex said:
Why Gamestop?! You were one of the good ones...
Since when was Gamestop one of "the good ones"?
Since they were the biggest player in the used market that keeps physical media alive. Digital Distribution will lead to higher prices because shelf space is not an issue. Shelf space is why games go to the clearance bin.
Eh, the used market (and Gamestop) could die tomorrow, and the gaming landscape would be better for it. They're a vampire sucking at the neck of the industry.
You're wrong, the used market has helped this industry grow and without it, the industry would shrink.
If by helping it grow, you mean getting more people to use their product, then piracy seem to be doing the same thing. Used games doesn't help the industry, it doesn't put any $$$$ in the pockets of the developers and publishers, $$$$ who will you know, help support the industry. The only one who benefits from used sales is the customer and gamestop.
Let me lay it out for you:

- When people trade in used games they generally tend to put that money (and then some) back into the game industry. Sometimes they buy more used games and sometimes they buy new.
- Being able to resell a game make people more willing to buy new.
- Used market allows for out of print games to still be circulated creating new franchise fans. For example, buying Disgaea 1 or 2 used, loving it and buying Disgaea 3 new.

You take these things away and people will buy fewer new games.