GameStop Eyeballs Steam's Milkshake
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I think you're very wrong, and I hope you don't get to find out how it plays out. If the used games market dies, it's going to have negative repercussions on the market, because one of the ig sources of money people apply to new games is trade-in/used sales.Aris Khandr said:
Seems like a long way to go, cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Ok seriously, do they not know how seriously stupid this move is? The very fundamentals, second teir-building blocks of the PC community (after doom and quake of course) was STEAM and the Source engine. The PC gaming community knows and loves steam. EA just some newcomer jerk-off who picks a fight with the wrong people and is acting like a child, not only pissing off many of its own customers on a frequent basis but now picking fights with perhaps one of its best resources for product placement?
Heres whats I feel is gona happen...
PC sales will fall hard as a rock for this game since the lack of PAYING PC gamers will no longer have it readily available to them.
You will see a monstrous increase in piracy for the game due to not only the fact its not on steam, but the fact that EA is pissing off its customers.
AND btw, EA broke its agreement with steam, thats why Crysis 2 is missing. Not because "steam just viciously removed it" They broke their agreement and tried to screw over its steam customers. Steam wasent having any of their Sh%t. And neither am I any more. Im starting to get a bias against EA now and they are earning it.
Heres whats I feel is gona happen...
PC sales will fall hard as a rock for this game since the lack of PAYING PC gamers will no longer have it readily available to them.
You will see a monstrous increase in piracy for the game due to not only the fact its not on steam, but the fact that EA is pissing off its customers.
AND btw, EA broke its agreement with steam, thats why Crysis 2 is missing. Not because "steam just viciously removed it" They broke their agreement and tried to screw over its steam customers. Steam wasent having any of their Sh%t. And neither am I any more. Im starting to get a bias against EA now and they are earning it.
yeah and EA and steam have had some problems so they say "I bite my thumb at you sir"Micalas said:
Considering the absolutely pathetic trade-in value that Gamestop offers, those people would be better off selling their used games on eBay anyway.Zachary Amaranth said:
oh my mistake they must of changed it, ive been using impulse for at least a year and have been so tired seeing the 2 good games on their weekend sale unavailable in the region. but now they must have changed their contract. but i can still get on the thq page just fine, how odd :Sultimateownage said:
Yes, sir.poppabaggins said:
I've actually had similar thoughts in the past, except now I have two trunks full of media (and that's after I consolidated it all into wallets and multi-CD boxes. The content distribution service model has the advantage of eliminating the handling of media, and in cases like mine, searching through it all to find the game of choice. As I'm trying to develop habits to eliminate the need for regular optical drive use, the online license model works better.Proverbial Jon said:
Also, I've had a bad experience with EA, in which I received broken media and they refused to send to me a replacement, claiming I was a pirate (I didn't want a new key, and I only wanted disc 2). It was that incident that drove me to learn about the torrent communities. (Needless to say, after that experience, I have little mercy for the publisher-end grievances about game piracy.)
I, too, picked up impulse for Sins (a rather worthwhile real-time 4X, incidentally). I've become wary since Gamestop bought it out, especially since I've felt uneasy for some time regarding the brick-and-mortar version. It would be unfortunate if they tacked on their own DRM or log-on requirements, as they'd then lose their few advantages over Steam.2fish said:
Regarding Steam, it was a disaster when it started (I got it for the Half Life 2 release) but they're really cleaned up, and I can usually get fairly new games that I otherwise couldn't afford during their sales. In fact I hadn't dreamed I'd be playing Portal 2 before Christmas, and yet I am.
Also, the in-game client is very useful, whether I have to look up hints online or want to chat with someone mid game, or look at my (amazingly detailed) play stats. Steam has, perhaps due to its early mistakes, become a really nice service.
I will admit I get miffy when it won't let me go into offline mode when I don't have an internet connection or have lost my current one. But incidents of that have sharply dropped in frequency-per-outage, so I can travel with confidence that I'll be able to game when I do.
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Except for Call of Duty, those are all Blizzard. While Activision-Blizzard may be around for Starcraft 2, World of Warcraft, and Diablo 3, Blizzard controls the development of those completely and has been developing them since long before the merger, so they can't really be classified as Activision titles.Citizen Snips said:
I'm really disliking how EA is treating DICE. They give away their engine, they push yearly releases, they fuck over the PC crowd after all the good DICE have done and still do for them. I get why they do it, they know that if SW:TOR doesn't do well they'll be miss their quarter by a few hundred millions, and with the stupid move to have it Origin exclusive they now have to make everything else anti-Steam to take it out of the competition. Only problem is, that it's a stupid move after another and it's gonna bite them hard in the ass. Man how I'd love to get an interview with EA right now... Maybe I should go knock on DICE HQ, it's not far.
I find it hilarious that EA usually publishes Valve's games, but I doubt I'll find it as funny if Activision starts publishing them in the future because of this. I know Activision could never impact Valve, but just the thought of my money in Koticks pocket...
I find it hilarious that EA usually publishes Valve's games, but I doubt I'll find it as funny if Activision starts publishing them in the future because of this. I know Activision could never impact Valve, but just the thought of my money in Koticks pocket...
I do understand that, but it just seems very short sighted for such large companies. I'm a musician, and I have to accept that a lot of people would pirate it instead of buying it. While I don't expect video game companies to follow the same route, I offer my music for free and accept donations.666Chaos said:
A friend of mine has a band that just sells their stuff, and I make more money then they do, even though they are much more popular then me. I usually get a little bit from some people, nothing at all from some, and a lot from very few, but it does add up. His band either gets a lot from each sale, or nothing at all from those that pirate their music. In the end I make more in total sales because I offer a good product (at least I think it is good) at a reasonable price. Sometimes that price is nothing, and would have been anyways. His band charges $11 per full length album.
My point to all this is if game companies lowered their prices, they would probably sell more. If they want to charge $60 per game for a few months, I can understand that, but if they dropped it soon after that they would sell even more. Some people would wait, but those that have to get the newest hit game on the release date would still buy it that day and pay that full price.
Look at all the Steam sales that sell tons of games and I'm sure make tons of money. Look at the Humble Bundle that does really well too, and gives some to charity. These companies do well by relying on quantity instead of higher prices to make up their profits.
What are your thoughts?
ExcellentUriel-238 said:
(don't know how to type it the way he says it, but I'm sure you can hear him saying it)
But Steam is so beautiful...Eh, I suppose competition is always needed in the market. This does curve my interest a bit as Steam makes it easy for me to communicate with my brothers while in game. I'm tired of making accounts every time I want to play a different game, but such is the territory with PC gaming.
this isn't going to be a challenge at all, which is kind of sad in a way but mostly not sad but well you get the ideaThe_root_of_all_evil said:Gamestop wants a bit of Gabe's pie?
CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!