GameStop Leaks Vita Memory Card Pricing
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Oh fair enough, I don't remember seeing any Wii branded cards around but it may just be a locality thing. I kind of understand people buying the branded ones though, seems kind of silly but a company will attempt to make a profit whenever possible.EricKei said:
I went and bought the cheapest SD card I could as soon as I got my Wii, and it still works perfectly five years later.
True. As you mentioned earlier, hardware is generally sold at a significant loss, or at break-even at best; the Wii was allegedly one of the few exceptions, though I'm not 100% certain. Either way -- the Wii had a decent amount of internal storage anyway, so it's not like their use was mandatory.TheEvilCheese said:
I'll reserve my own potential outrage for the card pricing once I see it. I do think that Sony should go with SD cards, though. They're ubiquitous, and, as a result, cheaper for Sony to buy/rebrand and make a profit on, should they desire to do so.
I think Im going to hold off a Vita until I hear news about my PSP games being playable, the price drops on those cards and/or someone cracks them just right, to play PSP games off them so I can still play my games.
AT LEAST USE FUCKING SD CARDS LIKE THE REST OF TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY SONY!
AT LEAST USE FUCKING SD CARDS LIKE THE REST OF TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY SONY!
Ick...
All things considered though, it's looking like a small to moderately significant blemish on the otherwise strong face of the Vita. If I were to choose between a Vita and a 3DS... well the 3DS is significantly lacking a Megaman Legends game and the Vita has an awesome twin-stick-shooter. I can't say I'm fond of this news but it still seems cool. Unfortunately, college prevents me from getting much of anything extra in the next three years... so... oh well.
All things considered though, it's looking like a small to moderately significant blemish on the otherwise strong face of the Vita. If I were to choose between a Vita and a 3DS... well the 3DS is significantly lacking a Megaman Legends game and the Vita has an awesome twin-stick-shooter. I can't say I'm fond of this news but it still seems cool. Unfortunately, college prevents me from getting much of anything extra in the next three years... so... oh well.
I'm not sure why people keep going on about how cheap they can get an SD card, since it depends entirely on the specs. Sure, you can get a crappy class 4 SD card for much less than this Sony one. Or you can get a decent class 10 microSD for hardly less at all. Depending on the specs of this new card, it could be anything from a complete rip-off to actually a really good deal.
Sure, it sucks that people keep trying to force us to use proprietary formats when there are already perfectly good standards, apparently for no reason other than to piss us off. But when it comes down to it, very few people are actually going to want to swap the card out of their Vita and use it in another device, so it really makes no difference at all that it's a non-standard format. And without knowing the specs, which I can't find detailed anywhere yet, it's impossible to say if it's overpriced or not. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's a little more expensive than it should be, but I really doubt it's anywhere near as bad as all the rage here would suggest.
Sure, it sucks that people keep trying to force us to use proprietary formats when there are already perfectly good standards, apparently for no reason other than to piss us off. But when it comes down to it, very few people are actually going to want to swap the card out of their Vita and use it in another device, so it really makes no difference at all that it's a non-standard format. And without knowing the specs, which I can't find detailed anywhere yet, it's impossible to say if it's overpriced or not. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's a little more expensive than it should be, but I really doubt it's anywhere near as bad as all the rage here would suggest.
I already hated the Vita's existence for the fact that a game I was looking forward to (BlazBlue Continuum Shift Extend) is being delayed so that the console and handheld versions launch concurrently. I have further hate for the Vita because one of the primary reasons given for the assification of Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3's HUD is so that it will look good/acceptable in the Vita version. This memory card thing is just sort of icing on the cake and I already had nails left over after closing the coffin on yet another failed Sony handheld. Also memo to devs and publishers: stop fucking over console games for a handheld version for a handheld that isn't even out and that given this memory card BS probably isn't even going to sell particularly well.
That's 20, 29, 45 and 77 quid respectively (not counting the massive markup we get over here in the UK). A 4GB memory stick would set you back less than a tenner.
As they say in my homeland: 'The fuck is this pish?
As they say in my homeland: 'The fuck is this pish?
This is such a good fucking idea. I mean, it's not like any third parties are just going to make their own version of the memory cards at much lower prices or anything like that, right?
But seriously, unless sony makes it so only their cards will work with downloadable games or saves then third parties will compete with those horrible prices. I could buy 2 games for the price of the largest card.
But seriously, unless sony makes it so only their cards will work with downloadable games or saves then third parties will compete with those horrible prices. I could buy 2 games for the price of the largest card.
The PS3 cost a ton at launch (the 360 wasn't exactly cheap either -- heck, neither were the NES nor the Atari 2600!), but even at $700 they were still losing a bunch on each unit.Yatagarasean said:
The Wii, on the other hand, reportedly cost Ninty anywhere from $160 to $244 to make at launch, depending upon whom you ask. I do not recall anything suggesting that they lost money on it -- in fact, even breaking even on systems is a major anomoly for anyone *except* the Big N. Note that, regardless of actual manufacturing cost, retailers generally sell systems at their *own* cost -- When GS was charging $249 for Wii's, they were paying $249 for them.
one article suggesting the former -- feel free to research
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multimedia/display/20061215092033.htmlAs for SD cards -- an earlier poster had a good point. Not all memory cards are created equal. I paid $14 the other day for 8 gig SD and Micro SD's at a big box store -- I would never trust those particular chips for long term storage, but they're fine for system-to-system transfers, extra songs on MP3 players, etc. The good stuff DOES cost extra, it's just a question of whether the Vita use the good stuff, and whether or not these pricing "leaks"/rumors are even true. Keep in mind that they would likely catch MUCH more flak for endorsing crappy, failure-prone memory sticks than they would for endorsing/requiring expensive, high-quality sticks...None if us wants to drop that kind of money on a SD card...but I guarantee that people would be FAR more upset if their downloaded games and hard-earned saves suddenly vaporized due to shoddy chips IN the cards.
Edit: Of course, if they require/endorse expensive, crappy sticks, then all bets are off -_-
By god. how in the hell were Nintendo ever spending even $160 per Wii Unit when it is essentially an over-clocked Gamecube with an even cheaper off the shelf DVD-drive instead of a mini-DVD drive. Remember, the Wii is so similar to the gamecube it doesn't actually emulate Gamecube games, it just plays them! It's like what the iPhone 4 is to the iPhone 3, same tech with higher clock-rate. And they were selling Gamecube at $99 per unit from 2003, how much of a loss were they selling the gamecube for?!?!?EricKei said:The PS3 cost a ton at launch (the 360 wasn't exactly cheap either -- heck, neither were the NES nor the Atari 2600!), but even at $700 they were still losing a bunch on each unit.Yatagarasean said:
The Wii, on the other hand, reportedly cost Ninty anywhere from $160 to $244 to make at launch, depending upon whom you ask. I do not recall anything suggesting that they lost money on it -- in fact, even breaking even on systems is a major anomoly for anyone *except* the Big N. Note that, regardless of actual manufacturing cost, retailers generally sell systems at their *own* cost -- When GS was charging $249 for Wii's, they were paying $249 for them.
one article suggesting the former -- feel free to research
I suppose the motion-sensing might have cost some licencing, but not more than a couple of dollars per unit. How could Nintendo be making such basic tech for such a high price, IBM are ripping them off BLIND! Where the hell are Wii's manufactured? Wii has the graphical capability of a 2 year old smartphone only with none of the miniaturisation or integrated components (battery, multi-touch screen, etc), it should not be that expensive!
And on PS3, apparently $175-$200 of the cost of the PS3 was the Blu-ray drive. That turns out to be almost completely worthless for gaming, and before you get into any arguments, please show me the PC game that mandates a blu-ray drive? On PC where there are no limits on size, detail and scope of games? Games like Crysis and Witcher 2 both came on DVD no problem as long as you have a hard Drive install which is so common now on consoles.
But... Sony won the platform war against HD-DVD. If you can call it winning as blu-ray is hardly making DVD redundant. People didn't switch from VHS to DVD just because of the quality, it's the convenience of music-CD like compactness, no-rewinding and scene selection. The next step for movies is to digital-downloads and streaming of content, convenience like we have had for our music for so long.
It's not just the cheap ones. Sometimes simply buying from no-name brands who make no guarantees yet save only a few pennies cost you so much more by being interminably slow or just refuse to work. In my experience price can be so independent of quality the most expensive stuff being so shoddy and the near-cheapest amazingly pulling ahead. There is no substitute to actual product reviews that perform rigorous real-world tests and comparisons.
As a rule the VERY cheapest things are crap until tested otherwise, they can do that for how many people just sort by price and automatically buy the cheapest thing but often within 15% of that price will be one of the fastest cards you'll need.
You just gotta find those review sites