GameStop Warns Against Anti-Used Game Technology

[tehroc]

Why does everyone latch onto the "Used Games" part of these stories while ignoring the absolutely atrocious part. You must always be online to use the console.

Maybe I'm the only one that lives in the dark ages, but the internet is a very expensive thing (especially at the speeds they'll require)and until recently I didn't even have access to high-speed at all. If any console requires that I be online to play my games - whether or not they allow used game sales - I simply won't be able to justify purchasing the console nor the games. I don't know when I'll be forced to cancel my internet subscription and I don't know when I'll have to move down the street where there isn't cable access...

By next gen almost every game will be multiplayer games with single player adventures tacked on (EA is already on board), so it makes sense for the system to require internet connection.

 

[Kinitawowi]

Yeah, add me to those LOLing at the notion of Gamestop telling Microsoft not to kill the used game market when said market provides the majority of Gamestop's business model. If you (and others, Game) didn't run this racket in the way you did then companies wouldn't have had to resort to these sorts of steps.

The ironing is delicious. [/Bart Simpson]

Newsflash: Microsoft - and most other console manufacturers - aren't that bothered about mates lending each other games or selling them on to each other. They're bothered about professional operations.

 

[CardinalPiggles]

They are biased, but they are also correct. People will simply wait for price drops or switch to PC. Less hassle, and Steam deals are awesome.

but as i say, i doubt MS will, maybe when consoles go digital only but then hopefully games will be cheaper and thus the used game market wont matter. Look at steam...at that price who cares about used.

Ehh, all the games I want to play come out on steam nowadays anyway. ... If anything I think that's what Sony and Microsoft should be scared of happening, not used game sales.

Uh, guys? I love Steam, too, but it's pretty much the poster child for buying games new and being unable to resell them. If MS/Xbox wants to chase Steam's coattails, no-used-sales no-game-stop all-digital-distribution consoles make good sense.

The remaining brick-and-mortar digital product stores are all staring into the abyss which Tower Records, etc., long since fell into. They're dinosaurs.

But Steam sells for a hell of a lot cheaper than Microsofts digital copies or hard copies from, say, GameStop.

I've often thought about the fact that I can't sell my Steam games, but then I remember that most of them cost me less than £5. And the ones that cost more are ones I want to keep to maybe play again.

I'm not saying it's perfect, but it's definitely better than what Microsoft currently offer. We'll have to wait and see how this turns out. If they do this, but actually offer affordable prices for their digital games I wouldn't mind as much.

 

[Epona]

They are biased, but they are also correct. People will simply wait for price drops or switch to PC. Less hassle, and Steam deals are awesome.

but as i say, i doubt MS will, maybe when consoles go digital only but then hopefully games will be cheaper and thus the used game market wont matter. Look at steam...at that price who cares about used.

Ehh, all the games I want to play come out on steam nowadays anyway. ... If anything I think that's what Sony and Microsoft should be scared of happening, not used game sales.

Uh, guys? I love Steam, too, but it's pretty much the poster child for buying games new and being unable to resell them. If MS/Xbox wants to chase Steam's coattails, no-used-sales no-game-stop all-digital-distribution consoles make good sense.

The remaining brick-and-mortar digital product stores are all staring into the abyss which Tower Records, etc., long since fell into. They're dinosaurs.

But Steam sells for a hell of a lot cheaper than Microsofts digital copies or hard copies from, say, GameStop.

I've often thought about the fact that I can't sell my Steam games, but then I remember that most of them cost me less than £5. And the ones that cost more are ones I want to keep to maybe play again.

I'm not saying it's perfect, but it's definitely better than what Microsoft currently offer. We'll have to wait and see how this turns out. If they do this, but actually offer affordable prices for their digital games I wouldn't mind as much.

Normally, Steams prices are exactly the same. Sales are the exception, not the rule. For example: Skyrim is still $60.

 

[bdcjacko]

Didn't we just go through a news story like this with the PS4?

I will believe it when I see it.

 

[Winthrop]

So lets hit all the reasons this is bad that GameStop didn't touch.
-Possible loss of game if xbox has a hardware failure (IE: RRoD) Depending on how the system is implemented, all games could be lost if the xbox breaks down.

-Stopping game history. (Want to know a bit about old games? Buy an SNES and Super Metroid. Want to do that if used games cannot be played? Too bad.)

-Loss of new game sales. (CoD goes on sale, not everyone wants to pay full price like they currently do. Online community shrinks due to this. Less player retention, harder to find a match, next CoD has fewer people buying it.)

-Loss of console sales. (SteamBox and OUYA coming out around that time, less restrictive than this, simpler for people than PC.)

Its a terrible idea that will hurt GameStop, Microsoft, and Consumers.

 

[Epona]

(SteamBox and OUYA coming out around that time, less restrictive than this

This part confuses me, how would Steambox OUYA be less restrictive. Steambox would likely operate with the same DRM as Steam and OUYA would probably do the same.

Both are going to require an internet connection and neither are going to allow you to resell your games.

 

[CardinalPiggles]

They are biased, but they are also correct. People will simply wait for price drops or switch to PC. Less hassle, and Steam deals are awesome.

but as i say, i doubt MS will, maybe when consoles go digital only but then hopefully games will be cheaper and thus the used game market wont matter. Look at steam...at that price who cares about used.

Ehh, all the games I want to play come out on steam nowadays anyway. ... If anything I think that's what Sony and Microsoft should be scared of happening, not used game sales.

Uh, guys? I love Steam, too, but it's pretty much the poster child for buying games new and being unable to resell them. If MS/Xbox wants to chase Steam's coattails, no-used-sales no-game-stop all-digital-distribution consoles make good sense.

The remaining brick-and-mortar digital product stores are all staring into the abyss which Tower Records, etc., long since fell into. They're dinosaurs.

But Steam sells for a hell of a lot cheaper than Microsofts digital copies or hard copies from, say, GameStop.

I've often thought about the fact that I can't sell my Steam games, but then I remember that most of them cost me less than £5. And the ones that cost more are ones I want to keep to maybe play again.

I'm not saying it's perfect, but it's definitely better than what Microsoft currently offer. We'll have to wait and see how this turns out. If they do this, but actually offer affordable prices for their digital games I wouldn't mind as much.

Normally, Steams prices are exactly the same. Sales are the exception, not the rule. For example: Skyrim is still $60.

What I mean is, digital games on Xbox hardly ever go below £15. And the digital selection of games is pretty limited.

Whereas Steam's library is only limited by exclusivity (EA titles, console only titles (no big loss)). And Steam has more regular (and better) sales.

At the moment, digital sales through the Xbox dashboard are terrible in comparison. If they got on par with Steam with their digital marketplace I'd be less concerned about the no used games issue.

 

[PsychoChick966]

Every time I turn around, somebody somewhere is trying to take the fun out of gaming. It was recently rumored that Sony was going to do this with their next console, and 99% of comments I read from gamers were whole-heartedly running to Xbox at the mere idea that this could happen.

I have so many issues with these potential changes to Xbox, but the main two are that a) I don't want a console that makes me have an internet connection, let alone make it that I have to be online to use the console at all., and b) A large portion of the games I buy ARE used.

I read some comments above about people like me being in the "dark ages", and say what you will, but I really don't have use for an internet-connected console. I've had an Xbox since 2006, and only connected it via Xbox Live, a couple weeks ago. I don't like to play multiplayer games, and the only reason I hooked it up at all was because I used to play co-op games with my daughter before she moved across the country. I missed playing with her, so I bought a subscription for Xbox Live. I don't know if I'll renew the subscription in a year though, because although I enjoy playing with her, I don't do it often enough to warrant the subscription. So I'm not sure why that puts me in the dark ages...it's just a preference. I like to play single-player games, period. To have my console hooked up to the internet, puts another financial burden on my already financially-strapped family as well. I did it at the time, because we had the funds, but my husband's income fluctuates, and it's not something I'd even be ABLE to do if I wanted to subscribe right now. So Xbox would be cutting so many customers off, just by making the always on-line internet connectivity issue a reality, alone. Some people just can't afford it. These people will then go to Sony. Or, they'll just go to computer-gaming. I HAVE internet, and am on the internet most of the day (on my computer)...I just don't want to HAVE to pay for another device to be hooked to it, especially since I won't use it much.

Secondly, again, some people just cannot afford new games. I can OCCASIONALLY afford a new game, but that's not often. There are quite a lot of games that are still on my back-logged wishlist because I can't afford to even buy them used. The cost of gaming has gotten really expensive over the last couple of years. There are lots of games to be desired, and rarely have I met the person who can afford to buy all of them, let alone all new copies. Gaming companies would not be losing out on a sale because of used games, at least where I'm concerned, because if they stopped used games from being sold, I wouldn't own some of them. It's not a matter of saying "Oh, I have to buy BLANK new if I want it, so okay, sure, here's my $60 bucks." It's more like, "Oh, I have to buy BLANK new if I want it. Crap, I guess I'll have to do without it then." Xbox would be cutting another portion of people out of their possible customer base by making their consoles only play new games. I'm not even talking about all the people who sell or trade their games in order to buy a newer one on their WL. I don't sell or trade my games when I'm done with them, but I'm sure there are loads of people who do that because they also cannot afford to always buy new games.

We should all be on the same side on this issue, I think. We should not be okay with companies like Xbox telling us how we have to game. They WILL listen to us if we speak with our wallets. These possible changes to their consoles may be okay with YOU, but you HAVE to recognize that we all don't have the same financial capabilities, or want to play our games the same way you want to play. Why would you want to push other gamers out of our community, or be OKAY with the idea that they will be pushed out? The idea that a gaming company feels ripped-off because of the sale of used games is preposterous to me. If they're used, that means they were paid for once already. Why do they feel entitled to be paid for the same item over and over again? If they want, there's nothing to stop them from renting games. I want to reiterate here that they're NOT losing out on sales to people who just can't afford the price of a new game. If only new games are sold, some people will just have to do without gaming.

I don't even know how to sum up my opinion here....I just feel sad that gaming's come down to these issues at all. I'm passionate about gaming, and defensive about it I suppose, but it's what I like to do. Gaming is more to me than even for strictly entertainment purposes. I have medical issues that leave me sedentary most of the time. This is what I do with my mind, besides reading the news, interesting articles, and so forth. It is an excellent form of entertainment, expressionism, escapism, distraction, and just plain fun. I realize that gaming is also a business though too, and I know that gaming companies need to make money in order to survive. I WANT them to survive, to thrive, and to continue, of course....I just don't want to be left out of something I've been a part of since the 80's. Where there's one person who feels something, there's surely to be many more just like him or her....and so I'm quite sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.

 

[Epona]

They are biased, but they are also correct. People will simply wait for price drops or switch to PC. Less hassle, and Steam deals are awesome.

but as i say, i doubt MS will, maybe when consoles go digital only but then hopefully games will be cheaper and thus the used game market wont matter. Look at steam...at that price who cares about used.

Ehh, all the games I want to play come out on steam nowadays anyway. ... If anything I think that's what Sony and Microsoft should be scared of happening, not used game sales.

Uh, guys? I love Steam, too, but it's pretty much the poster child for buying games new and being unable to resell them. If MS/Xbox wants to chase Steam's coattails, no-used-sales no-game-stop all-digital-distribution consoles make good sense.

The remaining brick-and-mortar digital product stores are all staring into the abyss which Tower Records, etc., long since fell into. They're dinosaurs.

But Steam sells for a hell of a lot cheaper than Microsofts digital copies or hard copies from, say, GameStop.

I've often thought about the fact that I can't sell my Steam games, but then I remember that most of them cost me less than £5. And the ones that cost more are ones I want to keep to maybe play again.

I'm not saying it's perfect, but it's definitely better than what Microsoft currently offer. We'll have to wait and see how this turns out. If they do this, but actually offer affordable prices for their digital games I wouldn't mind as much.

Normally, Steams prices are exactly the same. Sales are the exception, not the rule. For example: Skyrim is still $60.

What I mean is, digital games on Xbox hardly ever go below £15. And the digital selection of games is pretty limited.

Whereas Steam's library is only limited by exclusivity (EA titles, console only titles (no big loss)). And Steam has more regular (and better) sales.

At the moment, digital sales through the Xbox dashboard are terrible in comparison. If they got on par with Steam with their digital marketplace I'd be less concerned about the no used games issue.

I think the selection issue will be solved next gen. As for the sales, hardly a reason to give up your consumer rights. There are quite a few Steam games I would resell if I could, Skyrim being one of them and if I had those games on console, they would be used to fund new game purchases.

 

[TheSapphireKnight]

While they naturally have a bit of a bias on the subject it doesn't diminish the fact it would be incredibly stupid. I doubt that something like that would be implemented, but if it does I can't wait to see the backlash.

Oh it ought to be great fun.

 

[Superlative]

Every time I turn around, somebody somewhere is trying to take the fun out of gaming. It was recently rumored that Sony was going to do this with their next console, and 99% of comments I read from gamers were whole-heartedly running to Xbox at the mere idea that this could happen.

I have so many issues with these potential changes to Xbox, but the main two are that a) I don't want a console that makes me have an internet connection, let alone make it that I have to be online to use the console at all., and b) A large portion of the games I buy ARE used.

I read some comments above about people like me being in the "dark ages", and say what you will, but I really don't have use for an internet-connected console. I've had an Xbox since 2006, and only connected it via Xbox Live, a couple weeks ago. I don't like to play multiplayer games, and the only reason I hooked it up at all was because I used to play co-op games with my daughter before she moved across the country. I missed playing with her, so I bought a subscription for Xbox Live. I don't know if I'll renew the subscription in a year though, because although I enjoy playing with her, I don't do it often enough to warrant the subscription. So I'm not sure why that puts me in the dark ages...it's just a preference. I like to play single-player games, period. To have my console hooked up to the internet, puts another financial burden on my already financially-strapped family as well. I did it at the time, because we had the funds, but my husband's income fluctuates, and it's not something I'd even be ABLE to do if I wanted to subscribe right now. So Xbox would be cutting so many customers off, just by making the always on-line internet connectivity issue a reality, alone. Some people just can't afford it. These people will then go to Sony. Or, they'll just go to computer-gaming. I HAVE internet, and am on the internet most of the day (on my computer)...I just don't want to HAVE to pay for another device to be hooked to it, especially since I won't use it much.

Secondly, again, some people just cannot afford new games. I can OCCASIONALLY afford a new game, but that's not often. There are quite a lot of games that are still on my back-logged wishlist because I can't afford to even buy them used. The cost of gaming has gotten really expensive over the last couple of years. There are lots of games to be desired, and rarely have I met the person who can afford to buy all of them, let alone all new copies. Gaming companies would not be losing out on a sale because of used games, at least where I'm concerned, because if they stopped used games from being sold, I wouldn't own some of them. It's not a matter of saying "Oh, I have to buy BLANK new if I want it, so okay, sure, here's my $60 bucks." It's more like, "Oh, I have to buy BLANK new if I want it. Crap, I guess I'll have to do without it then." Xbox would be cutting another portion of people out of their possible customer base by making their consoles only play new games. I'm not even talking about all the people who sell or trade their games in order to buy a newer one on their WL. I don't sell or trade my games when I'm done with them, but I'm sure there are loads of people who do that because they also cannot afford to always buy new games.

We should all be on the same side on this issue, I think. We should not be okay with companies like Xbox telling us how we have to game. They WILL listen to us if we speak with our wallets. These possible changes to their consoles may be okay with YOU, but you HAVE to recognize that we all don't have the same financial capabilities, or want to play our games the same way you want to play. Why would you want to push other gamers out of our community, or be OKAY with the idea that they will be pushed out? The idea that a gaming company feels ripped-off because of the sale of used games is preposterous to me. If they're used, that means they were paid for once already. Why do they feel entitled to be paid for the same item over and over again? If they want, there's nothing to stop them from renting games. I want to reiterate here that they're NOT losing out on sales to people who just can't afford the price of a new game. If only new games are sold, some people will just have to do without gaming.

I don't even know how to sum up my opinion here....I just feel sad that gaming's come down to these issues at all. I'm passionate about gaming, and defensive about it I suppose, but it's what I like to do. Gaming is more to me than even for strictly entertainment purposes. I have medical issues that leave me sedentary most of the time. This is what I do with my mind, besides reading the news, interesting articles, and so forth. It is an excellent form of entertainment, expressionism, escapism, distraction, and just plain fun. I realize that gaming is also a business though too, and I know that gaming companies need to make money in order to survive. I WANT them to survive, to thrive, and to continue, of course....I just don't want to be left out of something I've been a part of since the 80's. Where there's one person who feels something, there's surely to be many more just like him or her....and so I'm quite sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.

I feel where your coming from but I honestly doubt either company will go though integreating this tech into the next console. Even if both Microsoft and Sony were to do it at the same time, it would just make the Wii U into a massive success again by giving developers a reason to make more games for it (as it would be the only non-fail system left).

The only intelligent usage for this tech i can think of would be to allow beta-testers to test games on their own consoles without risking them giving the classified alpha or beta version of game X to all their buddies.

 

[Winthrop]

(SteamBox and OUYA coming out around that time, less restrictive than this

This part confuses me, how would Steambox OUYA be less restrictive. Steambox would likely operate with the same DRM as Steam and OUYA would probably do the same.

Both are going to require an internet connection and neither are going to allow you to resell your games.

According to this article, the new xbox will be always online (Lose single player data if your internet goes down?). While the other consoles will require internet to download games, they will still allow you to play offline (OUYA source: http://ouyaforum.com/showthread.php?890-Ouya-offline-play no source for steam box, but given the way steam works I'm assuming) once the game has been downloaded.

On a related note, I believe both will allow hardware mods and OUYA will allow cracking and homebrew. Although this is a different form of restriction than the kind I was referring too in my previous post, the new xbox will presumably not allow for this.

 

[PsychoChick966]

Every time I turn around, somebody somewhere is trying to take the fun out of gaming. It was recently rumored that Sony was going to do this with their next console, and 99% of comments I read from gamers were whole-heartedly running to Xbox at the mere idea that this could happen.

I have so many issues with these potential changes to Xbox, but the main two are that a) I don't want a console that makes me have an internet connection, let alone make it that I have to be online to use the console at all., and b) A large portion of the games I buy ARE used.

I read some comments above about people like me being in the "dark ages", and say what you will, but I really don't have use for an internet-connected console. I've had an Xbox since 2006, and only connected it via Xbox Live, a couple weeks ago. I don't like to play multiplayer games, and the only reason I hooked it up at all was because I used to play co-op games with my daughter before she moved across the country. I missed playing with her, so I bought a subscription for Xbox Live. I don't know if I'll renew the subscription in a year though, because although I enjoy playing with her, I don't do it often enough to warrant the subscription. So I'm not sure why that puts me in the dark ages...it's just a preference. I like to play single-player games, period. To have my console hooked up to the internet, puts another financial burden on my already financially-strapped family as well. I did it at the time, because we had the funds, but my husband's income fluctuates, and it's not something I'd even be ABLE to do if I wanted to subscribe right now. So Xbox would be cutting so many customers off, just by making the always on-line internet connectivity issue a reality, alone. Some people just can't afford it. These people will then go to Sony. Or, they'll just go to computer-gaming. I HAVE internet, and am on the internet most of the day (on my computer)...I just don't want to HAVE to pay for another device to be hooked to it, especially since I won't use it much.

Secondly, again, some people just cannot afford new games. I can OCCASIONALLY afford a new game, but that's not often. There are quite a lot of games that are still on my back-logged wishlist because I can't afford to even buy them used. The cost of gaming has gotten really expensive over the last couple of years. There are lots of games to be desired, and rarely have I met the person who can afford to buy all of them, let alone all new copies. Gaming companies would not be losing out on a sale because of used games, at least where I'm concerned, because if they stopped used games from being sold, I wouldn't own some of them. It's not a matter of saying "Oh, I have to buy BLANK new if I want it, so okay, sure, here's my $60 bucks." It's more like, "Oh, I have to buy BLANK new if I want it. Crap, I guess I'll have to do without it then." Xbox would be cutting another portion of people out of their possible customer base by making their consoles only play new games. I'm not even talking about all the people who sell or trade their games in order to buy a newer one on their WL. I don't sell or trade my games when I'm done with them, but I'm sure there are loads of people who do that because they also cannot afford to always buy new games.

We should all be on the same side on this issue, I think. We should not be okay with companies like Xbox telling us how we have to game. They WILL listen to us if we speak with our wallets. These possible changes to their consoles may be okay with YOU, but you HAVE to recognize that we all don't have the same financial capabilities, or want to play our games the same way you want to play. Why would you want to push other gamers out of our community, or be OKAY with the idea that they will be pushed out? The idea that a gaming company feels ripped-off because of the sale of used games is preposterous to me. If they're used, that means they were paid for once already. Why do they feel entitled to be paid for the same item over and over again? If they want, there's nothing to stop them from renting games. I want to reiterate here that they're NOT losing out on sales to people who just can't afford the price of a new game. If only new games are sold, some people will just have to do without gaming.

I don't even know how to sum up my opinion here....I just feel sad that gaming's come down to these issues at all. I'm passionate about gaming, and defensive about it I suppose, but it's what I like to do. Gaming is more to me than even for strictly entertainment purposes. I have medical issues that leave me sedentary most of the time. This is what I do with my mind, besides reading the news, interesting articles, and so forth. It is an excellent form of entertainment, expressionism, escapism, distraction, and just plain fun. I realize that gaming is also a business though too, and I know that gaming companies need to make money in order to survive. I WANT them to survive, to thrive, and to continue, of course....I just don't want to be left out of something I've been a part of since the 80's. Where there's one person who feels something, there's surely to be many more just like him or her....and so I'm quite sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.

I feel where your coming from but I honestly doubt either company will go though integreating this tech into the next console. Even if both Microsoft and Sony were to do it at the same time, it would just make the Wii U into a massive success again by giving developers a reason to make more games for it (as it would be the only non-fail system left).

The only intelligent usage for this tech i can think of would be to allow beta-testers to test games on their own consoles without risking them giving the classified alpha or beta version of game X to all their buddies.

I really hope you're right. Somehow, I guess I like to think that all of the people who make gaming a part of their living, are good-natured, fun people at heart who want to share gaming with other people. Reading news stories like this make me feel disillusioned and make me think I'm just REALLY naive.

 

[Racecarlock]

Every time I turn around, somebody somewhere is trying to take the fun out of gaming. It was recently rumored that Sony was going to do this with their next console, and 99% of comments I read from gamers were whole-heartedly running to Xbox at the mere idea that this could happen.

I have so many issues with these potential changes to Xbox, but the main two are that a) I don't want a console that makes me have an internet connection, let alone make it that I have to be online to use the console at all., and b) A large portion of the games I buy ARE used.

I read some comments above about people like me being in the "dark ages", and say what you will, but I really don't have use for an internet-connected console. I've had an Xbox since 2006, and only connected it via Xbox Live, a couple weeks ago. I don't like to play multiplayer games, and the only reason I hooked it up at all was because I used to play co-op games with my daughter before she moved across the country. I missed playing with her, so I bought a subscription for Xbox Live. I don't know if I'll renew the subscription in a year though, because although I enjoy playing with her, I don't do it often enough to warrant the subscription. So I'm not sure why that puts me in the dark ages...it's just a preference. I like to play single-player games, period. To have my console hooked up to the internet, puts another financial burden on my already financially-strapped family as well. I did it at the time, because we had the funds, but my husband's income fluctuates, and it's not something I'd even be ABLE to do if I wanted to subscribe right now. So Xbox would be cutting so many customers off, just by making the always on-line internet connectivity issue a reality, alone. Some people just can't afford it. These people will then go to Sony. Or, they'll just go to computer-gaming. I HAVE internet, and am on the internet most of the day (on my computer)...I just don't want to HAVE to pay for another device to be hooked to it, especially since I won't use it much.

Secondly, again, some people just cannot afford new games. I can OCCASIONALLY afford a new game, but that's not often. There are quite a lot of games that are still on my back-logged wishlist because I can't afford to even buy them used. The cost of gaming has gotten really expensive over the last couple of years. There are lots of games to be desired, and rarely have I met the person who can afford to buy all of them, let alone all new copies. Gaming companies would not be losing out on a sale because of used games, at least where I'm concerned, because if they stopped used games from being sold, I wouldn't own some of them. It's not a matter of saying "Oh, I have to buy BLANK new if I want it, so okay, sure, here's my $60 bucks." It's more like, "Oh, I have to buy BLANK new if I want it. Crap, I guess I'll have to do without it then." Xbox would be cutting another portion of people out of their possible customer base by making their consoles only play new games. I'm not even talking about all the people who sell or trade their games in order to buy a newer one on their WL. I don't sell or trade my games when I'm done with them, but I'm sure there are loads of people who do that because they also cannot afford to always buy new games.

We should all be on the same side on this issue, I think. We should not be okay with companies like Xbox telling us how we have to game. They WILL listen to us if we speak with our wallets. These possible changes to their consoles may be okay with YOU, but you HAVE to recognize that we all don't have the same financial capabilities, or want to play our games the same way you want to play. Why would you want to push other gamers out of our community, or be OKAY with the idea that they will be pushed out? The idea that a gaming company feels ripped-off because of the sale of used games is preposterous to me. If they're used, that means they were paid for once already. Why do they feel entitled to be paid for the same item over and over again? If they want, there's nothing to stop them from renting games. I want to reiterate here that they're NOT losing out on sales to people who just can't afford the price of a new game. If only new games are sold, some people will just have to do without gaming.

I don't even know how to sum up my opinion here....I just feel sad that gaming's come down to these issues at all. I'm passionate about gaming, and defensive about it I suppose, but it's what I like to do. Gaming is more to me than even for strictly entertainment purposes. I have medical issues that leave me sedentary most of the time. This is what I do with my mind, besides reading the news, interesting articles, and so forth. It is an excellent form of entertainment, expressionism, escapism, distraction, and just plain fun. I realize that gaming is also a business though too, and I know that gaming companies need to make money in order to survive. I WANT them to survive, to thrive, and to continue, of course....I just don't want to be left out of something I've been a part of since the 80's. Where there's one person who feels something, there's surely to be many more just like him or her....and so I'm quite sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.

I feel where your coming from but I honestly doubt either company will go though integreating this tech into the next console. Even if both Microsoft and Sony were to do it at the same time, it would just make the Wii U into a massive success again by giving developers a reason to make more games for it (as it would be the only non-fail system left).

The only intelligent usage for this tech i can think of would be to allow beta-testers to test games on their own consoles without risking them giving the classified alpha or beta version of game X to all their buddies.

I really hope you're right. Somehow, I guess I like to think that all of the people who make gaming a part of their living, are good-natured, fun people at heart who want to share gaming with other people. Reading news stories like this make me feel disillusioned and make me think I'm just REALLY naive.

Truthfully, I think that most of the developers are. It's just the publishers who are complete dickwaffles.

 

[Wesley Brannock]

Ive always been an avid xbox owner, and never owned a play station in my life. If this is what Microsoft does with the next xbox, sony, here I come......

Rumors of the " ps4 " are similar to the ones of the new " xbox ". Having said that I share your opinion on used games. I rarely play used game but I do want the FREEDOM to play a used game if I so choose.

 

[Aggieknight]

Realistically, I think both consoles will ship with the capability, but it will be a mexican standoff with the first few games that test out the feature.

Which publisher will want their AAA title to be the first to ship with that feature on?

 

[zehydra]

Wouldn't it be great if all next-gen consoles sucked?

 

[Strazdas]

so the only way to make somone interested into maknig actual research is tumbling share price? nice.

Ive always been an avid xbox owner, and never owned a play station in my life. If this is what Microsoft does with the next xbox, sony, here I come......

why not PC? i mean, PS3 has quite a few inherent problems that you may not like being xboxer. PC is much closer.