Gaming Addiction Leads to Death of 3-Month Old Korean Girl

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MetalGenocide said:
I support the notion of renaming the article. Currently, it's misleading.
Seems that, "the family" decided to have a kid for the lulz, then decided it wasn't fun anymore, and killed it off, via neglect-ion. Has nothing to do with games. Seriously, 41 year old man with a 25 year old girl? Both unemployed? Rest of the family nowhere to be found? Child abuse? I really don't see, even why games are being brought up at all.

Also to all who "suggested" controlled parenting/exams and such, not to be rude but seriously, beat those thoughts right out of your head. No entity, with any amount of authority, should ever be allowed to control/limit/govern/censor the reproduction of people.

A baby died in Korea. Well what about the others tens of thousands around the world which died that same day? What about the million others about to die from starvation/neglect/abuse/etc.

So, enough for now. Felt like writing a large essay, but that's just frustration.
Metal Genocide, while I agree that the thought of governed parenting/birth policies is atrocious and extreme, and should not be necessary, it seems to be that there are just too many people. Something must be done, and it seems to me that we often dance around the fact that there are just too many of us.

This story is horrifying. I am saddened that a child was born, only to be neglected and forgotten by people who should have been there for her.
 

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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh im so f*cking angry!
 

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I would sooner never touch a video game than put in such danger a child of mine. This is just pathetic and makes me almost disregard my values and suggest these people be put to death for being such horrible human beings.
 

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On the upside it looks like natural selection is already working on washing that particular stain out of the gene pool.
 

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Boggles my mind. I know they have a different mentality regarding children but this huge example of neglect is just...heartbreaking.

This almost sounds like purposeful neglect. I don't mean that games were more important (though they certainly were). I mean that they left her with the intention of her dying.

Well...whatever happened...I hope the little girl is in a better place now.
yeah and I hope one day in Heaven she will be able to travel to hell for a day to light her parents asses on fire lol.[/quote

That would be a revenge most sweet. I hope she can too.
 

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the December King said:
MetalGenocide said:
I support the notion of renaming the article. Currently, it's misleading.
Seems that, "the family" decided to have a kid for the lulz, then decided it wasn't fun anymore, and killed it off, via neglect-ion. Has nothing to do with games. Seriously, 41 year old man with a 25 year old girl? Both unemployed? Rest of the family nowhere to be found? Child abuse? I really don't see, even why games are being brought up at all.

Also to all who "suggested" controlled parenting/exams and such, not to be rude but seriously, beat those thoughts right out of your head. No entity, with any amount of authority, should ever be allowed to control/limit/govern/censor the reproduction of people.

A baby died in Korea. Well what about the others tens of thousands around the world which died that same day? What about the million others about to die from starvation/neglect/abuse/etc.

So, enough for now. Felt like writing a large essay, but that's just frustration.
Metal Genocide, while I agree that the thought of governed parenting/birth policies is atrocious and extreme, and should not be necessary, it seems to be that there are just too many people. Something must be done, and it seems to me that we often dance around the fact that there are just too many of us.

This story is horrifying. I am saddened that a child was born, only to be neglected and forgotten by people who should have been there for her.

Yes, but it only seems that there are too many people. From mostly articles like this, and the comments that come in time with them.
The "fact" you speak of does not exist. Our race has the resources to support itself many times over, as far as population goes. Then as far as biomass/total amount of individuals, we are one of the species with fewer/fewest numbers on the planet. Simply take look how much of the surface of the planet we occupy to live.

We don't need population control, because this is not a population problem, people are not born this way, it's a cultural/educational/social problem. These individuals, probably did not respond well to education, or the education did not include elements of knowledge necessary to avoid, post educational trauma/disability/etc. And it is social because, many others have been reported to suffer similar fates. Also nothing is said of how they were razed, witch again is an important factor. The most probable conclusion is that, the upbringing of these people, eventually led them to believe, they should live this way.

Didn't want to revive this but, just had to clear it up.
 

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This is why I hold no faith in humanity. They barely care for, and slightly abuse their daughter, probably because they were comparing her to their virtual daughter.
 

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DoW Lowen said:
Jesus... fucking... balls.

This is a terrible, tragic and utterly disturbing story. I mean games are fun, but... really? Too much of anything is bad. I really feel ashamed to be a gamer right now.

Psychological analysis: The parents had confidence issues, they most likely felt too afraid to look after their own child properly. But with a virtual child they can make no mistakes, the rewards were obvious and more immediate and if anything went wrong they can try again. Mistakes don't exist in games because every consequence can be rectified, every error can be tried again. Gaming makes people think that they are invincible, that if something goes wrong they can simply hit the reset button.
Please... just don't speculate. I have degrees in cognitive and abnormal psychology (it's kind of a hobby of mine) as well as forensics. There is insufficient data to render any sort of realistic psychological analysis of the situation.

From the original 'news' post, you can only infer that there is a dysfunctional mental process going on in the dominant personality of the couple. (Stipulated that that dominant personality is likely the male, given that he is substantially older, and given my rather limited understanding of Korean culture, but still...) Until interviewing the subjects, you cannot determine if that process was one of dereliction or of intent. Until that determination is made, you are merely offering potential excuses. Your profile says you're a psychology student. If you haven't learned it yet, learn it now: a definitive diagnosis should be the last thing you write in a file.

And the rather dark personal irony? I abandoned my field to work in IT... and yet what I learned has served me rather well...
My friend was a music producer working out in clubs before he picked up his psychology degree. The places life takes us aye?

Relax, I used the words "most likely" and while I may not have my masters just yet I am in the midst of my honors thesis and the focus of my work is actually video game addiction. It's a very shallow stipulation, that you're right of. I have no empirical evidence and no information other than the news post. But I'm still able to make a valid hypothesis and I've seen so many other incidents regarding injuries that are in correlation with video game play time. So it wasn't a hollow analysis just so you know, I do have a pretty decent idea of what I'm talking about.

Cognitive and Abnormal degrees aye? That would've been a ***** to get. Kudos. Psychology while it's an interesting subject, it's such a ***** to deal with.
 

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MetalGenocide said:
the December King said:
MetalGenocide said:
I support the notion of renaming the article. Currently, it's misleading.
Seems that, "the family" decided to have a kid for the lulz, then decided it wasn't fun anymore, and killed it off, via neglect-ion. Has nothing to do with games. Seriously, 41 year old man with a 25 year old girl? Both unemployed? Rest of the family nowhere to be found? Child abuse? I really don't see, even why games are being brought up at all.

Also to all who "suggested" controlled parenting/exams and such, not to be rude but seriously, beat those thoughts right out of your head. No entity, with any amount of authority, should ever be allowed to control/limit/govern/censor the reproduction of people.

A baby died in Korea. Well what about the others tens of thousands around the world which died that same day? What about the million others about to die from starvation/neglect/abuse/etc.

So, enough for now. Felt like writing a large essay, but that's just frustration.
Metal Genocide, while I agree that the thought of governed parenting/birth policies is atrocious and extreme, and should not be necessary, it seems to be that there are just too many people. Something must be done, and it seems to me that we often dance around the fact that there are just too many of us.

This story is horrifying. I am saddened that a child was born, only to be neglected and forgotten by people who should have been there for her.

Yes, but it only seems that there are too many people. From mostly articles like this, and the comments that come in time with them.
The "fact" you speak of does not exist. Our race has the resources to support itself many times over, as far as population goes. Then as far as biomass/total amount of individuals, we are one of the species with fewer/fewest numbers on the planet. Simply take look how much of the surface of the planet we occupy to live.

We don't need population control, because this is not a population problem, people are not born this way, it's a cultural/educational/social problem. These individuals, probably did not respond well to education, or the education did not include elements of knowledge necessary to avoid, post educational trauma/disability/etc. And it is social because, many others have been reported to suffer similar fates. Also nothing is said of how they were razed, witch again is an important factor. The most probable conclusion is that, the upbringing of these people, eventually led them to believe, they should live this way.

Didn't want to revive this but, just had to clear it up.
While I concede that this may not be something we are born into, I would like to point out, MetalGenocide, that this is not a fact. And I never adressed it as such, and for that matter, neither can you, at least with full certainity. If our race continues as it has been, basically expanding and expanding, then I fail to see how we won't run into even more immense famines and starvations then we already have. But it is just my speculation- I'm no scientist!

However I totally concur with your assessment of this particular case- there is information here that feels like it's missing. How were they raised? And where were the couples parents, whose house this was in the first place?
 

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They were bad news from jump, unemployed, living with the parents, and played in the cafe 24/7? (showed where their priorites are). Despite the game addiction, they were in no position to have a kid to begin with!
 

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Oh, come on. I know heroine addicts that would stop their daily dose if they thought a child was in trouble. Nobody is that fucking stupid.
 

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ok, dark note aside

did anyone else got the urge to look this "PRIUS" game??

it would be one hell of an ad "PRIUS: you will leave your children to die"
 

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*.* thats really an eye opener. but who would have thought it to happpen in south korea?

But seriously how could anyone be that heartless to care more about an online daughter rather than a real one. Either that or the media is stretching it a bit too far.......

seems a little.......


SUSPICIOUS!
 

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Well children dying from neglect is sadly not as uncommon as it should be. It seems like gaming being accused here (which seems to be part of the point) is unfair because there are all kinds of things that have lead to neglect-based child deaths. Simply put, parents leave their kids unattended for the dumbest reasons, especially at a very early age.

Them being at the internet cafe, is the same as them having been out clubbing, or whatever.

Still, I am hoping this is dealt with harshly.

I also admit that I noticed the bit about "41 year old man, with a 25 year old wife". I know this is an Asian country, and has differant "standards" but that's pretty much a recipe for a messed up relationship/child rearing enviroment to begin with.