Gay Gamers Want Dragon Age 2 Writer Fired
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Bingo. The reason you don't go about praising one minority is that you alienate the same minority in exactly the same way.topwomble said:
If you believe "gay" people all want the same thing, you're exactly as prejudice as the people who don't want any "gay" near them.
How about giving the "choice" to the player of what sort of experience he wants? Rather than to the audience of what experience he should have.
The thing that annoys me most is that Escapist is making it seem as though this is a big issue in the first place. Look at this article's title:
"Gay Gamers Want Dragon Age 2 Writer Fired"
Framing like this implies that a vast majority of gay gamers are insulted by this DA2 character. A more accurate title would illicitly state that this supposed uproar is the work of a very small (practically negligible) population of homosexual gamers. The article even states that the petition only has "208 signatures", how can this really be an issue in the slightest? Clearly this whining dribble is of the unpopular opinion. I am tired of Escapist using misleading titles in their articles to create a sensation and suck in their readers. I feel like I am reading fucking TMZ for videogame players.
Proof that the large majority of gay gamers support Gaider:
http://gaygamer.net/2011/03/not_all_gay_gamers_think_alike.html
"Gay Gamers Want Dragon Age 2 Writer Fired"
Framing like this implies that a vast majority of gay gamers are insulted by this DA2 character. A more accurate title would illicitly state that this supposed uproar is the work of a very small (practically negligible) population of homosexual gamers. The article even states that the petition only has "208 signatures", how can this really be an issue in the slightest? Clearly this whining dribble is of the unpopular opinion. I am tired of Escapist using misleading titles in their articles to create a sensation and suck in their readers. I feel like I am reading fucking TMZ for videogame players.
Proof that the large majority of gay gamers support Gaider:
http://gaygamer.net/2011/03/not_all_gay_gamers_think_alike.html
A gay troll? I thought they were just a myth!!poiumty said:
How could there be a homosexual troll when all they do is call people fags?
my head hurts...
I love how one representation of a small group of people in a game is so offensive to people.
I mean seriously. Come on man... Are you telling me there are no gay people out there who are aggressive pursuers and will practically force themselves on others? Because if there is. Then it's not false representation. It's just asking you to suspend belief for a second to imagine they're all in one fictional world.
I mean seriously. Come on man... Are you telling me there are no gay people out there who are aggressive pursuers and will practically force themselves on others? Because if there is. Then it's not false representation. It's just asking you to suspend belief for a second to imagine they're all in one fictional world.
you know
trying to fire the guy who went out to defend you probably isn't all that good of an idea
trying to fire the guy who went out to defend you probably isn't all that good of an idea
Two or more of anything is plural. While 208 signatures isn't very significant in terms of petition support, it is multiple "gamers". I would agree with you if the title had said "All Gay Gamers Want Dragon Age 2 Writer Fired", but that's not the case.dbmountain said:
Ok, I've played the game through twice now and I still haven't had Anders hit on me. I don't understand all this 'outrage', especially about the most realistic (read: hypocritical) character in the game.
It's odd that people complain about Anders being openly sexual in the game, but not Isabela, who is essentially the counterpart to Anders in that respect.
I can understand the decision to give some rivalry points when refusing him though: it's sort of realistic. Put yourself in Anders' shoes, you think Hawke's into you, those are the signals you've been getting, then Hawke just says no. You're going to be a bit pissed off at that.
It's odd that people complain about Anders being openly sexual in the game, but not Isabela, who is essentially the counterpart to Anders in that respect.
I can understand the decision to give some rivalry points when refusing him though: it's sort of realistic. Put yourself in Anders' shoes, you think Hawke's into you, those are the signals you've been getting, then Hawke just says no. You're going to be a bit pissed off at that.
I'm forced to agree with you on this. The fix would be very simple, too: "Gay Gamer Wants Dragon Age 2 Writer Fired". Heck, even with the petition, you can't even be sure that a single person among the signers are gay. They could just be signing a petition to get someone fired for funzies.dbmountain said:
Really though, I have reiterate my constant opinion on matters like this: "Seriously, shut up." And before anyone gets offended, I'm not talking about the people posting here. I'm talking about people that ***** and whine and START PETITIONS just because they disagree with something. I disagree with tons of things, but I keep my opinions to myself, most of the time. And when I do express them, I make sure to mention the fact that my opinions are my own, and I don't speak for anyone else.
As for this issue in particular? Guess what. I've met gay guys that can't stop thinking with their crotch, same as I've met straight guys that can't stop thinking with their crotch. Same goes for the other gender. People are people are people. Nowhere did Dragon Age 2 ever even TRY to say "THIS IS WHAT ALL GAY PEOPLE ARE LIKE. THEY ONLY WANT SEX."
So, as I said before, to the moron that started the petition: "Seriously, SHUT UP."
yeh good thing i chose to play as the women. All them sexual innuendos from the guys and girls woo hoo! XD
and since when does being flirtatious automatically mean you want sex?
and since when does being flirtatious automatically mean you want sex?
No need to fire him but they're right. Dragon Age's portrayal of homosexuals is every bit as bad as black-face comedy. It's really the worst stereotypes all rolled up into one character. It just shows how pre-pubescent this industry is when it comes to dealing with serious social issues.
So, like another site suggested, I'm gonna throw this out there and suggest that this petition was started for trolling sake. because implying that Gaider is depicting gays as 'love obsessed people who are harshly hurt by the spurn of their advances' is just pure, absolute bullshit of the highest echelon.
I mean come the FUCK on guys, is there really ANYONE here who denied Anders advances and saw the drop in friendship as an attack on teh gaze? I mean if anything, all it shows is that Anders is a codependent whiny ***** if anything. And based on his constant back and forth about wanting someone in or out of his life supporting him is really annoying. Again, it has nothing to do with Anders being bisexual, IT'S BECAUSE ANDERS IS FUCKED UP, BOTH EMOTIONALLY AND BECAUSE HE HAS A SPIRIT OF VENGEANCE DWELLING IN HIS BODY.
I mean come the FUCK on guys, is there really ANYONE here who denied Anders advances and saw the drop in friendship as an attack on teh gaze? I mean if anything, all it shows is that Anders is a codependent whiny ***** if anything. And based on his constant back and forth about wanting someone in or out of his life supporting him is really annoying. Again, it has nothing to do with Anders being bisexual, IT'S BECAUSE ANDERS IS FUCKED UP, BOTH EMOTIONALLY AND BECAUSE HE HAS A SPIRIT OF VENGEANCE DWELLING IN HIS BODY.
I don't like how Twisted Metal portrayed Sweet Tooth (a single, presumably-straight white male) as being a psychotic serial killer. It's a totally unrealistic depiction of the straight man and David Jaffe should be fired and thrown in prison for creating an exaggerated character with a few basic, all-encompassing traits in common with me.
Putting this argument into perspective, it would be like directors of almost every romantic comedy to come out in the last 5 years getting fired for including a "sassy gay friend" in a movie. People are really just overly sensitive to the way they think others perceive them. And honestly, if this were not a homosexual issue, it would not be an issue at all. Imagine if people has complained about the heterosexuality of say Duke Nukem, it would have been dismissed as stupidity. If the gay community wants equality, then they have to stop bitching about the small things, like this, and learn to take a joke like the rest of the world.
