Gearbox: Duke Nukem is "Not a Chris Brown Kind of Character"

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lwm3398 said:
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Sorry? Black, white or brown Chris Brown is an arsehole, that is a fact. Besides even if he called him a black arsehole Randy would be called the racist not the game unless Duke himself finds Chris Brown in the game and say 'now that is one black asshole' then, THEN, the game could be called racist.
You're putting way too much logic into this. He is black. A man who makes a video game called him an asshole. VIDEO GAMES THINK BLACK PEOPLE ARE ASSHOLES.

It does matter that he's just a developer or a publicist, or if he was just an intern. He is the game. He is what the game says to people. He said a black person was an asshole, and even though that person actually was, because it's a video there's no need for consideration of that. That takes too much logical thinking.
Oh right sorry you were trolling I was too drunk to notice, oh well keep doing your thing man.
 

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lwm3398 said:
Add "racist" to the list of things this video game might now be called. Calling Chris Brown an asshole is the exact opposite of a good move at this point.
How is it racist? He called him an asshole because he beat up a woman, not because he's black...
 

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BabyRaptor said:
lwm3398 said:
Add "racist" to the list of things this video game might now be called. Calling Chris Brown an asshole is the exact opposite of a good move at this point.
How is it racist? He called him an asshole because he beat up a woman, not because he's black...
Like every other post above you, you misunderstood this man's point. He was saying that the media will perceive it as racist, not that it actually is. See the quotation marks around racist?
 

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Shoggoth2588 said:
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You know, it annoys me to no end that you guys keep on calling it a halo clone when:

-Halo wasn't the first game to limit you to to 2 weapons.

- No halo game has had regenerating health*



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*to the point where it matters, 3 had you regain 1 point of health every 5 seconds, you had 40 points.
 

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Jabberwock xeno said:
You know, it annoys me to no end that you guys keep on calling it a halo clone when:

-Halo wasn't the first game to limit you to to 2 weapons.

- No halo game has had regenerating health*



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*to the point where it matters, 3 had you regain 1 point of health every 5 seconds, you had 40 points.
I don't think I in any way intoned that it was a Halo clone, only that it had those aspects which were made popular by the Halo franchise. And when I say health, I mean the stat that is eaten into every time you're shot, so it could be considered shields or ego or stamina or whatever, but ultimately functions as the value that starts recharging after so many seconds of not being shot.

Also, which FPS before Halo limited you to two weapons?
 

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Okay first I wanna say that Pitchford is a man in his mid 40's going and commenting about Chris brown who is 22 yrs old. That sounds more like Pitchford being a effin racist and a effin bully for running his mouth about a young black man who made one mistake, yet everyone is simply forgetting that Charlie Sheen is a known womanbeater who has a 20 yr history of beating on women. Why didn't BITCHFORD use Charlie's name and not Chris? When clearly the character in the game is a white man? Bitchford sit the eff down and stop using Chris' name for a mistake he made and get your own promotion for having a good game. Not draw attention by slandering a young black man. Because if your game was actually good it would get promotion for being just that not by name dropping like an immature low life white trash scumbag.

To compare Duke to Hugh Hefner who sells women as sex objects is not saying much. That man is almost 80 yrs old who is a disgusting old fuck is who your character is portraying to be is basically a reincarnated version of you disgusting old BASTARD.

Why does everyone attack Chris and not Charlie Sheen? Were you there BITCHFORD? Let me make a few things clear RIHANNA ASSAULTED CHRIS SHE ADMITTED IT IN HER POLICE STATEMENT AND ITS IN COURT DOCUMENTS. RIHANNA ABUSED CHRIS NUMEROUS TIMES AND RIHANNA IS A VIOLENT LITTLE WENCH. BUT, Charlie can BEAT WOMEN ON A DAILY BASIS AND GETS NO HATRED NO SHAME AND BITCHFORD DOESN'T USE HIS NAME, BUT THE CHARACTER IS WHITE NOT BLACK. SO USING CHRIS' NAME WHOSE A YOUNG BLACK KID TO A CHARACTER THAT IS PORTRAYED AS A WHITE MAN CLEARLY SHOWS THAT BITCHFORD IS A RACIST, IMMATURE, OLD, DISGUSTING, SEXIST, PIECE OF SHIT, WHITE TRASH BASTARD WITH NO RESPECT FOR WOMEN. NOW THAT SHOWS AND TELLS A LOT ABOUT BITCHFORD AS A HUMAN. YOU BITCHFORD ARE NOT A MAN YOUR A PERVERT AND A LOW DOWN SCUMBAG WITH A SHITTY GAME. YOU ARE NO BETTER THAN CHRIS BROWN OR ANY OTHER MAN. YOU BITCHFORD SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF FOR THIS STUPID ASININE COMMENT. I WILL NEVER BY ANOTHER VIDEO GAME BY BITCHFORD AGAIN.

STOP USING CHRIS BROWN'S NAME FOR ATTENTION AND DO NOT CALL HIM AN ASSHOLE A REAL ASSHOLE IS CHARLIE SHEEN. CHRIS IS ACTUALLY A GOOD GUY WHO MADE A MISTAKE HE HAS A GOOD HEART AND HE'S VERY CARING. YET CHARLIE IS NOT! CHARLIE IS AN ASSHOLE AND A WOMAN BEATER WITH NO RESPECT FOR WOMEN. BECAUSE CHRIS ASSAULTED RIHANNA 1 TIME MAKES HIM AN ASSHOLE YET CHARLIE HAS BEATEN DOZENS OF WOMEN IS NOT AN ASSHOLE OR BEING BROUGHT INTO THIS DESCRIPTION OF THE GAME? NOW I READ SOMEONE SAY THEY SAW A PIC OF RIHANNA BEATEN TO THAT PERSON WAS IT THE FIRST PICTURE TMZ POSTED? IF SO UNDERSTAND THIS THE PICTURE WAS DOCTORED WITH A FISHEYE LENS. HERE IS A PICTURE OF RIHANNA WITH A NORMAL LENS AND ALL NICE AND CLEANED UP. OH AND HERE IS A PICTURE OF HER WITH A BLACK N BLUE FROM REHEARSALS JUST RECENTLY NOW COMPARE THAT TO THE BLACK EYE AND YOU CAN SEE HER SHIT IS MORE SELF-INFLICTED THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

MTO pic---http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/818/1298558182rihannaabuse1.jpg/
This is the bruise Rihanna sustained during rehearsals you make your own conclusions http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/1307363794rihannabruise.jpg/

The bumps r her eyebrow bones which she always has so don't say he made them. Lip is split from her own teeth. This picture was taken 6 hrs later and her eye is not even swollen, she has no choke or bite marks. If you look you can clearly see that her bruises are more self-inflicted than anything else. I don't condone violence against anyone but don't run your mouth bitchford without hearing both sides, meeting both sides and/or knowing Rihanna or Chris' rep. If you knew them like I did you would know Rihanna is not an innocent victim and that she is pyschotic. She made most of those bruises and exaggerated as well as the media to what she sustained her "black eye" looks more as a self-inflicted bruise because there is no discoloration on her eye or face. When your hit your eye swells and the discoloration occurs within 1-2 hours clearly 6 hrs later no discoloration but has a black and blue on her thigh from rehearsals hmmm interesting right. Plus none of you know his side or even care. I hate when assholes like you people r so quick to judge one young kid and act like your against domestic violence when clearly you are not. Because if you people did not condone violence against women then you wouldn't create a game that is solely based on sexism against women or disrespect women. None of you dudes on here especially bitchford has any respect for women.

here is a picture of one of Charlies victims. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/23/brittany3211.jpg/
 

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SL33TBL1ND said:
BabyRaptor said:
lwm3398 said:
Add "racist" to the list of things this video game might now be called. Calling Chris Brown an asshole is the exact opposite of a good move at this point.
How is it racist? He called him an asshole because he beat up a woman, not because he's black...
Like every other post above you, you misunderstood this man's point. He was saying that the media will perceive it as racist, not that it actually is. See the quotation marks around racist?
So if its not racist why didn't he use a real woman beater and a real asshole like charlie sheen?
 

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guest1215 said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
BabyRaptor said:
lwm3398 said:
Add "racist" to the list of things this video game might now be called. Calling Chris Brown an asshole is the exact opposite of a good move at this point.
How is it racist? He called him an asshole because he beat up a woman, not because he's black...
Like every other post above you, you misunderstood this man's point. He was saying that the media will perceive it as racist, not that it actually is. See the quotation marks around racist?
So if its not racist why didn't he use a real woman beater and a real asshole like charlie sheen?
It's not racist because he didn't imply that all black people do that.
 

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Lol, I kind of wish people would let DNF die. It might sell really well and that is fine. We all know money drives the market and that is all that matters.



I don't know about other people, but I don't care what the media says. I agree with most people in this thread. I don't think Duke is or ever will be a "Wife beater". I saved the babes in D3D, I didn't even know that you could kick them to death. I suppose everyone plays in their own way.

I guess there was that time in one Duke game where he did kill the alien queen. He did put that pipe bomb in a "interesting" place. Maybe that is what all of this is about.
 

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Bitter_one13 said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
You know, it annoys me to no end that you guys keep on calling it a halo clone when:

-Halo wasn't the first game to limit you to to 2 weapons.

- No halo game has had regenerating health*



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*to the point where it matters, 3 had you regain 1 point of health every 5 seconds, you had 40 points.
I don't think I in any way intoned that it was a Halo clone, only that it had those aspects which were made popular by the Halo franchise. And when I say health, I mean the stat that is eaten into every time you're shot, so it could be considered shields or ego or stamina or whatever, but ultimately functions as the value that starts recharging after so many seconds of not being shot.

Also, which FPS before Halo limited you to two weapons?
Sorry, I just saw halo, and assumed you had made the connection that others had.

In halo you have a regenerating sheild, but you had non regeneraating health under that.
 

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lwm3398 said:
Cliff_m85 said:
Right, because calling a dude who beats the shit out of a young woman an 'asshole' is racist.
I didn't say that. I said it might be called that by ignorant people just because Chris Brown happens to be black. This is a video game and the media we're talking about. Logic need not apply.

Is Chris Brown an asshole? Yes. Is it racist to call him one? No. Will some media source ignorantly say that because of this one example, that this game thinks all black people are assholes? Almost certainly.

I in no way agree, I'm just saying that hypothetically a media source might overreact and say this game is racist. Should probably clarify that with an edit.
Well then, if these hypothetical media sources are gonna hypothetically spout off these hypothetically ignorant statements trying to claim that A=B, fuck 'em.

Hypothetically speaking, of course.
 

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keithkc81 said:
Lol, I kind of wish people would let DNF die. It might sell really well and that is fine. We all know money drives the market and that is all that matters.



I don't know about other people, but I don't care what the media says. I agree with most people in this thread. I don't think Duke is or ever will be a "Wife beater". I saved the babes in D3D, I didn't even know that you could kick them to death. I suppose everyone plays in their own way.

I guess there was that time in one Duke game where he did kill the alien queen. He did put that pipe bomb in a "interesting" place. Maybe that is what all of this is about.
That is and assaulting women in the game so the comment and remark that bitchford made is asinine and ignorant. Trying to sell a game by using a pervert like Hugh or Chris Brown's past is not cool. Its a low blow for a shitty game and a shitty creator.
 

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SL33TBL1ND said:
guest1215 said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
BabyRaptor said:
lwm3398 said:
Add "racist" to the list of things this video game might now be called. Calling Chris Brown an asshole is the exact opposite of a good move at this point.
How is it racist? He called him an asshole because he beat up a woman, not because he's black...
Like every other post above you, you misunderstood this man's point. He was saying that the media will perceive it as racist, not that it actually is. See the quotation marks around racist?
So if its not racist why didn't he use a real woman beater and a real asshole like charlie sheen?
It's not racist because he didn't imply that all black people do that.
But why use a black man for a white character? He used Hugh hefner white man as the character which is a pervert as bitchford claims? He could have used Charlie to say he isn't an asshole or a woman beater like him. Please I just lost all my respect for the creator and the games.
 

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guest1215 said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
guest1215 said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
BabyRaptor said:
lwm3398 said:
Add "racist" to the list of things this video game might now be called. Calling Chris Brown an asshole is the exact opposite of a good move at this point.
How is it racist? He called him an asshole because he beat up a woman, not because he's black...
Like every other post above you, you misunderstood this man's point. He was saying that the media will perceive it as racist, not that it actually is. See the quotation marks around racist?
So if its not racist why didn't he use a real woman beater and a real asshole like charlie sheen?
It's not racist because he didn't imply that all black people do that.
But why use a black man for a white character? He used Hugh hefner white man as the character which is a pervert as bitchford claims? He could have used Charlie to say he isn't an asshole or a woman beater like him. Please I just lost all my respect for the creator and the games.
Wait. So you're saying that because he used a black guy as an example he holds the same opinion for all members of that race?

Ok.

You keep living in fantasy land.
 

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guest1215 said:
So I'm assuming Charlie Sheen is not an asshole because he is white and chris brown is black and the creator of the game is white and the characters are white but uses a black man he's racists bottom line.
They're both assholes. If your first move is to jump to the racism card to defend a woman-beater from a throwaway line, then you're also an idiot.

CHRIS BROWN IS A LOVING MAN> HE LOVES WITH HIS FISTS!!!! IF HE WASNT RACIST WHY DIDNT HE CAREFULLY SAPARATE WOMANBEATERS INTO RACIAL CATEGORIES AND THEN COMPARE ONLY TO PPL WITH SIMILAR SKIN TONE!!$!#$ (insert Howard Dean yell/gurgle here)
 

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Jabberwock xeno said:
You know, it annoys me to no end that you guys keep on calling it a halo clone when:

-Halo wasn't the first game to limit you to to 2 weapons.

- No halo game has had regenerating health*



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*to the point where it matters, 3 had you regain 1 point of health every 5 seconds, you had 40 points.
The reason I was referring to Halo was simply because that's what it puts me in mind of, especially the driving levels. That's all. In fact, the reason I made the comparison is that Duke Nukem Forever was meant to be an antidote to these modern shooters, Halo and Call of Duty and so on. When it then turns out to be equivalent to a rubbish version of one of those games, it's a little sad.

And when you say "No halo game has had regenerating health" I assume you're just saying that technically they had regenerating shields with regular health underneath. If that's what you mean, then stop being so pedantic. If you literally mean, "No halo game has had regenerating health", I have to wonder which planet you're from that has such radically different definitions to ours.
 

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Broady Brio said:
Since when did Duke HIT women like Chris Brown? I haven't played ANY of the games, so I may be missing something here.
Well, you kill some women in DNF...but they have been sexed up by the aliens and they give birth more or less Alien-style...so its a mercy kill.

Duke even says "sorry babe, its better this way" as he does it.

Duke is not politically correct, and thank GOD for that...he's not meant to be. But he is not abusive either. Hes just really, really manly. And not in a metrosexual kind of way :p
 

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pffh said:
Broady Brio said:
Since when did Duke HIT women like Chris Brown? I haven't played ANY of the games, so I may be missing something here.
Well in Duke Nukem 3d there were these ladies that had been impregnated by the aliens and were now unable to move while being slowly eaten alive by the alien spawns inside them. Whenever you found one they would always beg for death and you could kill them.

But I doubt that counts.
They're back

And it's really nasty, and doesn't count.

Best comparison? Tyler Durden. He is the Ego, the unfettered.