Maybe they'll turn this into a shooter.fix-the-spade said:
Or funnel the funding into a shooter.
Gearbox Snags Homeworld Rights
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Or funnel the funding into a shooter.
I'm actually quite torn on whether or not I would have wanted Stardock to get the rights. Sure, they can make a great game, and I've yet to see a game of theirs without a deep lore behind it, but none of them had a campaign.Whatwhat said:
Homeworld, while excellent games mechanically (and after viewing a few videos of HW2 after reading this, still holds up visually by today's standards), was really about the story. The themes are somber, and distinctly tribal in nature. The second game felt like it was a great tale straight out of the sands of history, thanks to the narrative combined with a narrator who sounded like an elder speaking to children. The lore behind it is rich, but is revealed only on the most macro level (they found a ship in the sands with a core and a map to their home world). In the second game, there was only two real characters (S'Jet and Makaan), and everything else is about the fleet.
I could get behind Stardock getting the rights, but only if a different creative team, particularly one that aimed to continue the themes of the original two games, were to take the helm.
no....No..........NO!....NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
Why!!!!!??? Oh lord the humanity! My favorite space RTS of all time in the hands of the same people who made Duken Nukem and Aliens Colonial Marines! Do they even know HOW to make an RTS game? Let alone an RTS game on the same caliber as the Homeworld franchise? Gearbox, I swear to god....don't fuck this up.
Why!!!!!??? Oh lord the humanity! My favorite space RTS of all time in the hands of the same people who made Duken Nukem and Aliens Colonial Marines! Do they even know HOW to make an RTS game? Let alone an RTS game on the same caliber as the Homeworld franchise? Gearbox, I swear to god....don't fuck this up.
On the bright side, they seem to have the intention of re-releasing them on GOG.com and Steam. I can at least get behind this.
How so? As far as I know, SEGA and Gearbox had the relationship of pub->dev for Aliens:Colonial Marines and now that the game is finished they have nothing to do with each other anymore.omicron1 said:
I'd agree with you but this is Gearbox. When discussing Aliens:Colonial Marines in the dev diaries, the tweets and the countless interviews they had, it gave me hope because they seemed to genuinely want to make an Aliens game and a good one at that. Of course when the game was released, all of this meant jack. Acta non verba Gearbox.DVS BSTrD said:
Man this has made me cynical >.>.
It says right in the game:cursedseishi said:
Triptych made it, not Gearbox. Content was complete in Nov 2009, meaning that there was only a little over a year that the project was under Gearbox's wing. That's just enough time to get the multiplayer running and then ship it. Gearbox's name might have been on that turd, but they aren't responsible for why it sucked.
True. They just worked to acquire the rights to it. They saw the unfinished, poorly designed, buggy, shit state the project was in. Then decided to release it anyway, as is, with an insultingly undeserving sixty dollar price tag.SajuukKhar said:
Yeah. We shouldn't be mad at Gearbox for Duke Nukem: Forever at all...
Meh. Wouldn't have happened.Darth Sea Bass said:
Homeworld, as a franchise, isn't "hardcore" enough for them. It isn't a Call of Duty wannabe. It isn't a sports title. It's too complex with it's more than two action keys. And, it's in a genre that's too "strange" to homogenize without directly competing with their own Sims franchise.
Now, Activision on the other hand....
Well, this was bound to end badly.
If Relic had bought the rights, I would've been pissed, because Relic are so far removed from anything Homeworld-related nowadays, that I couldn't trust them to do anything interesting with the series.
If TeamPixel had bought the rights, I would've been pissed, because they don't have the resources to make another game in the series.
BlackBird Interactive (the studio where some former Homeworld dev's now work at) would've been fantastic, but they're a young studio still trying to establish themselves, and resurrecting a franchise that has been dead for a decade is probably not a priority for them at this point.
But Gearbox? Not only do they have no experience with the RTS genre, but their track-record when working with licenses that don't belong to them is not exactly stellar either.
Can't say I share your optimism though.
If Relic had bought the rights, I would've been pissed, because Relic are so far removed from anything Homeworld-related nowadays, that I couldn't trust them to do anything interesting with the series.
If TeamPixel had bought the rights, I would've been pissed, because they don't have the resources to make another game in the series.
BlackBird Interactive (the studio where some former Homeworld dev's now work at) would've been fantastic, but they're a young studio still trying to establish themselves, and resurrecting a franchise that has been dead for a decade is probably not a priority for them at this point.
But Gearbox? Not only do they have no experience with the RTS genre, but their track-record when working with licenses that don't belong to them is not exactly stellar either.
When did Command & Conquer ever try to compete with Starcraft?Therumancer said:
I see what you did there.Yoshisummons said:
Can't say I share your optimism though.
Just looking at it you can see something amazing potentially happening.Bill Nye the Zombie said:
A Homeworld real time tactical game with its own Total War turn based strategic empire management.
One can dream, I guess.
Well that is rather unexpected.
If Gearbox wants to break out of their shooter typecasting then I welcome that. Go ahead Gearbox.
As for their new game or what ever they do with Homeworld I wait and see...
A re-release on Steam of the series would certainly not be a misstep.
If Gearbox wants to break out of their shooter typecasting then I welcome that. Go ahead Gearbox.
As for their new game or what ever they do with Homeworld I wait and see...
A re-release on Steam of the series would certainly not be a misstep.
Homeworld is one of my top 5 favorite games of all time, and I don't really know what to think of those news. I lean towards the fact that, since Homeworld is a niche IP that can't really be cashed-in with a shitty title, they will HAVE to do their absolute best to actually make it good. Are they capable of it? We'll have to wait and see. Relic weren't doing anything with the franchise anyway, either because they have more easily marketable RTS ip's or because they were too scared to touch it again.
Also, I thought devs would have learned by now that using the word "accessible" when you are trying to hype up a game is one huge red flag. Stop using it. Context doesn't matter. Just never use that word ever again for any reason. Seriously.
Also, I thought devs would have learned by now that using the word "accessible" when you are trying to hype up a game is one huge red flag. Stop using it. Context doesn't matter. Just never use that word ever again for any reason. Seriously.
The only good that can come out of this is Homeworld 1 and 2 bein rereleased on GoG and Amazon.
The terrible part of that only good part is it'll probably be released with a bullshit price tag.
The terrible part of that only good part is it'll probably be released with a bullshit price tag.
Port of 1 or 2?fix-the-spade said:
Because Borderlands 2 is surprisingly good on PC, leagues beyond the crapbucket that was 1.
As for the news:
At least it wasn't EA, but still...
WHY?
RIP Homeworld. Sorry, but you just couldn't keep up with your Big Brother, Boarderlands. Here, let me take you to the nice, large graveyard so you can pick your place right next to your other adopted siblings: Duke Nukem and Aliens. Oh, you ask who that is over in the WWII-era games. Well, that's Brothers in Arms. You see, he's been contemplating suicide ever since Gearbox abandoned him a few years ago only to let his mentally unstable twin run around in his name, but he does have hope after his twin was renamed to avoid association, but he's still probably going to kill himself before Gearbox stops doing perverted things with its favorite child, Boarderlands.
On a more serious note: It is sad to see how Gearbox automatically makes us groan in agony, especially since only a few years ago it was a well-respected company. It's going to have to pull something really good to get our trust back, and Boarderlands doesn't count. Still, I'm not holding out that much hope for Homeworld.
On a more serious note: It is sad to see how Gearbox automatically makes us groan in agony, especially since only a few years ago it was a well-respected company. It's going to have to pull something really good to get our trust back, and Boarderlands doesn't count. Still, I'm not holding out that much hope for Homeworld.
Parsing the language in the quoted press release is a hilarious exercise. I hope any HD version of the Homeworlds is better than the disappointing AOE2 or Baldurs Gate re-dos.
Ed130 said:
Wait a second, people had problems with the PC version of Borderlands? I hated the game, but it ran smooth as a whistle on my underpowered laptop... it was nowhere close to a memorably bad port (thinking Halo 2 or Saint's Row 2 here).fix-the-spade said:
Based on what's been shown in the forums, it looks pretty terrible. Way too deterministic. NIs have been *cough* 'streamlined' *uncough*. The interface looks too polished and shiny. ROTW has got absolutely no love so far and the game is supposed to launch in Q3 or so.Whatwhat said:
It wasn't that bad, but still pretty terrible.Spectrum_Prez said:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/comics/stolen-pixels/6725-Stolen-Pixels-139-BorderLAN
It used Gamespy for multiplayer, which was complete sh!t considering the major multiplayer aspect of the game.
Well, I'm glad I'm not a fan of the series but I feel bad for those who are. I suppose it's too early to say things like that but I won't believe anything they say until the game is out. My only hope is that they after what happened with the Aliens game, they'll try and regain our trust by making an actually good game.
It is worrying that they've pretty much only made shooters until now but it doesn't necessarily mean that they will make a bad RTS game. Valve for example has also only made shooters (except Portal I guess but you're still in first person with something that's like a gun) and they then made DOTA 2, which couldn't be farther away from their usual games. Granted, they hired Icefrog but still, sometimes a company wants to expand and do something else. They have to start somewhere if they don't always want to make shooters.
It is worrying that they've pretty much only made shooters until now but it doesn't necessarily mean that they will make a bad RTS game. Valve for example has also only made shooters (except Portal I guess but you're still in first person with something that's like a gun) and they then made DOTA 2, which couldn't be farther away from their usual games. Granted, they hired Icefrog but still, sometimes a company wants to expand and do something else. They have to start somewhere if they don't always want to make shooters.