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ultrachicken

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So, the other day I thought about some unfair aspects associated with gender.
It's much more acceptable for a woman to hit a man than the other way around.
It's less acceptable for women to be aggressive
Women make less money than the average man
Men are considered great if they have sex with lots of women, but if a woman has sex with lots of men they're considered a slut.
Men are pressured into being good at sports
Only men are taken seriously as pedophiles
The average Woman make less than the average man: http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/censusandstatistics/a/paygapgrows.htm
http://www.infoplease.com/spot/equalpayact1.html

This isn't necessarily associated with everyone here, but it appears to be the general attitude. Why is this?
I'm a boy, in case it comes up.
 

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Pararaptor said:
I've got a question: Why is it that a woman can wear trousers & no-one so much as bats an eyelid, yet a man who wears a dress is "a pervert"?
For some reason after reading your point, a wolf in sheeps clothing made much more sense to me.
 

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Why do hot dogs come in packages of 8 while buns come in packages of 12?
Also why does it hurt when I pee?

OT: It's just the way of the world. It's called stereotyping. We tend to judge groups of people by the actions of the majority (or at least the media visible majority).
More men have hit women than vice versa. Women throughout history have been viewed as a weaker species. For a man to be hit by a woman is so against our normal way of thinking we tend to just assume the man should grow a pair and "man up". A woman we are more sympathetic towards. Weird huh?
 

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Girls can call guys fat as many times as they want to their face, but you call them fat back you get a kick in the balls and a pink slip for your relationship.
 

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Eukaryote said:
Reposting here as it is necessary:

If a key opens many locks it is a master key, if a lock is opened by many keys it is a shitty lock.
I actually read the original of that post, and it made me lol, but that still doesn't answer my question.
Sneaklemming said:
Why would you make a topic called Gender Theory and not talk about Gender Theory or Gender Studies?

Here's a link for you
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_theory
I called it Gender Theory because Gender Theory refers to how gender stereotypes and the like come up in text and I was basically applying that to real life. Also, you didn't contribute anything except a diss on my title skills, and I'd like to hear what you think about the subject of this thread.
 

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Double standards?
Oh and a woman can get a man arrested for indecent exposure if she see's him undressing in an open window in his own house. However if a man sees a woman undressing she can have him arrested for being a peeping tom.
 

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Pararaptor said:
I've got a question: Why is it that a woman can wear trousers & no-one so much as bats an eyelid, yet a man who wears a dress is "a pervert"?
I am sure that a if a man really really REALLY wants to wear a dress then, after explaining that `the dress is more comfortable` or `it lets the air circulate` then it will gradually be accepted...shaving your legs might help...In the mean time, compromise with a kilt.

I do not think that men and women will every have true equality due to biological differences. Women have to give birth, making them vunerable (impacts to a pregant stomach can endanger both the mother and child) and having to take some time off work (remember all the stick you got off your boss just for coming in an hour late because you had the flu)

On the other hand, men have vunerable private parts, tend to age quicker, die sooner and are more likely to siffer from a range of horrible diseases.

All laws can ever do is try to close the gap created by these biological differences.
 
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ultrachicken said:
Eukaryote said:
Reposting here as it is necessary:

If a key opens many locks it is a master key, if a lock is opened by many keys it is a shitty lock.
I actually read the original of that post, and it made me lol, but that still doesn't answer my question.
Sneaklemming said:
Why would you make a topic called Gender Theory and not talk about Gender Theory or Gender Studies?

Here's a link for you
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_theory
I called it Gender Theory because Gender Theory refers to how gender stereotypes and the like come up in text and I was basically applying that to real life. Also, you didn't contribute anything except a diss on my title skills, and I'd like to hear what you think about the subject of this thread.
Gender Theory refers to social constructivism. As for my opinion on the thread it is the basically the rhetoric that social constructivism goes for.

Boy are told to like blue, and girls are told to like pink.
 

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ultrachicken said:
It's less acceptable for women to be aggressive (this results in the average woman receiving a lower wage than the average man)
What? Aggressiveness? I allways thought it was because women cost a company more through maternity leave?
 

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bluepilot said:
I do not think that men and women will every have true equality due to biological differences. Women have to give birth, making them vunerable (impacts to a pregant stomach can endanger both the mother and child) and having to take some time off work (remember all the stick you got off your boss just for coming in an hour late because you had the flu)

On the other hand, men have vunerable private parts, tend to age quicker, die sooner and are more likely to siffer from a range of horrible diseases.

All laws can ever do is try to close the gap created by these biological differences.
Pretty much this.

Women are usually smaller and not as strong as men. They can carry children, so they get more leeway for things.

If I kick a guy in the balls for attacking me, I'm usually in the right. But if a guy kicks another guy in the balls, it's dirty pool, yeah?
 

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OT, I do find it funny that women think its funny to kick a guy in the balls [protip: two guys might be foaming at the teeth, ready to kill each other, but they will never kick the other in the balls], but yet its called 'domestic violence' when guys kick them in the same area.
Do women actually think that shit's funny?

Man, that's just plain wrong.
 

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I think it all comes down to the difference in hormones.

On that point, how would a human without any hormones be like? Hmmm...

I'm guessing neither "mans man" or "grrrrly girl", but something in between.
 

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Eukaryote said:
Reposting here as it is necessary:

If a key opens many locks it is a master key, if a lock is opened by many keys it is a shitty lock.
My favourite thing about that quote is that it's insulting on so many levels, you know? I mean, it doesn't just reinforce the whole "if a man likes sex, who cares, he's a man, but if a woman likes sex, she's a disgusting whore" thing - it also assumes the kind of backwards sexual and gender identity that women's rights movements have been railing against for decades. The key and lock metaphor implies that sexual pleasure, chastity, etc. is something a woman has to protect, otherwise she's failed at being a woman, while simultaneously encouraging the notion that a man's worth should be measured by the range of his sexual conquests, a concept steeped in discrimination and potentially harmful psychoses in its own right.

And you don't even have to think that deeply - it basically calls promiscuous women "shitty" straight out, no pop sociology required. You rarely come across a sentence that can be so universally insulting and disgusting - it's really quite impressive.
 

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Pararaptor said:
I've got a question: Why is it that a woman can wear trousers & no-one so much as bats an eyelid, yet a man who wears a dress is "a pervert"?
That has little to do with gender differences of course and more with the 'genderness' of those items of clothing. Trousers are seen as unisex for quite a while now, a dress is still strictly female. What is frowned upon is cross dressing. And cross dressing is certainly not about 'wearing what you like', but about 'dressing up as the other sex', which by many will be seen as perverse I guess.
 

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Break said:
Eukaryote said:
Reposting here as it is necessary:

If a key opens many locks it is a master key, if a lock is opened by many keys it is a shitty lock.
My favourite thing about that quote is that it's insulting on so many levels, you know? I mean, it doesn't just reinforce the whole "if a man likes sex, who cares, he's a man, but if a woman likes sex, she's a disgusting whore" thing - it also assumes the kind of backwards sexual and gender identity that women's rights movements have been railing against for decades. The key and lock metaphor implies that sexual pleasure, chastity, etc. is something a woman has to protect, otherwise she's failed at being a woman, while simultaneously encouraging the notion that a man's worth should be measured by the range of his sexual conquests, a concept steeped in discrimination and potentially harmful psychoses in its own right.

And you don't even have to think that deeply - it basically calls promiscuous women "shitty" straight out, no pop sociology required. You rarely come across a sentence that can be so universally insulting and disgusting - it's really quite impressive.
HOORAY FOR TEH INTERWEBZ

Your right, its hard being THAT sexist. but on the topic of the feminist movement, i may just have a limited sampling selection, but i have never heard a feminist complain about things like women not being drafted (ever, not just currently, at least in the US) or military regulations stating women cannot enter combat zones (combat can come to them though, so it doesn't alway work).
With rights come responsibilities, and i have not heard a feminist complain about a lack of responsibility, which sort of makes me tend to ignore it
 

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Pararaptor said:
I've got a question: Why is it that a woman can wear trousers & no-one so much as bats an eyelid, yet a man who wears a dress is "a pervert"?
I know! Why can't I have the flowing freeing feeling that only a dress can bring??

OT, Its just certain things that society dictates is what people are "supposed" to do and be like.

A man is the big strong provider and the woman is the fragile servant to the man. That's what its always been like.

I don't believe this at all, but a lot of people think this way.
 

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Pararaptor said:
I've got a question: Why is it that a woman can wear trousers & no-one so much as bats an eyelid, yet a man who wears a dress is "a pervert"?
it's called a KILT.
William Wallace wears one.
 

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why is killing female civillians in a war seen as being worse than killing a male civillian? Like when they say, "40 were killed including women and children". I can understand how killing children is worse, but why the gender thing?
Bullets have the same effect on everyone.