What are you talking about? It's a war on the internet. It's well past the "Pissing in an Ocean of Piss" allegory. It's more like the Water Cycle, but with Urine.lacktheknack said:
Gene Simmons Declares War on Anonymous
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'tops 2 thousand'? Please at least try to keep your hyperbole under control (it was considerably more than 2,000).Krion_Vark said:
Metallica named 335,435 people for uploading their music to Napster (so you could assume an order of magnitude more downloaded).
BTW.
My response was to you saying that Simmons had not provoked this attack, when clearly his statements a few weeks ago precipitated annon's actions (and Simmons further comments are designed to keep the publicity rolling in...)
KISS were always about bullshit gimickry. What do you think all that makeup and 'satan's service' stuff was about? Just because it's 'classic' (ie. old) doesn't mean it's not crappy glam rock with a good publicity team. And I was a teen when they were the Big Thing in the 80's, and I thought they were crappy glam rock then, too. I don't want their music, free or not.Wael Kash said:
Personally, I think I must be out of the loop. I thought these guys faded to obscurity years ago. I admire Simmons' arrogance though, undeserved as it is for someone who's sole saleable quality seems to be the length of his toungue. Give 'em heaps, anon. The guy's clearly a buffoon.
I do think merely shutting down a site is kind of a lame 'attack'. So they reboot or whatever, and it's back to normal. BFD. Either take it down permanently or take it down daily, but stop with this half-arsed fucking about.
I doubt he'll win, he'll give in eventually, but he'll do the most damage out of anyone that has faced anonymous combined. People making youtube videos insulting them is nothing, I think he may snag a couple guys but anonymous is bigger than a couple guys...
Not KISS music (as Simmons clearly knows royalties will not keep him rich), KISS merch/collectables (T-Shirts, posters, etc).captain underpants said:
Sometimes, when a law is unecessary, or stupid or whatever, you need to work outside the law in order to change it, especially when you're an anarchist - work according to a new law, as it were. Consider it practice for when things do change, if they do.Imat said:
It is a pity that annon's actions have not only prolonged Simmons moment in the media spotlight but given him a chance to play the victim (who now fights back against his attackers).captain underpants said:
Hopefully the media spotlight will shine equally as brightly on the total ineffectiveness of Simmons bluster (that no one is caught, let alone successfully prosecuted, for the attack on his web site).
Whatever happens, it's looking to be one hell of a show. Unless Simmons realises what an ass he's made of himself and withdraws, but what are the chances of that happening?TechNoFear said:
boo hoo, Gene Simmons and all the other music moguls don't get their royalties to pay off their million dollar houses. Piss off pal...
It's nice to see that someone is actually focusing on something that might get somewhere rather than the endless back and forth that this thread has degenerated into. I can't really comment because I don't know what analogy Gene made, and I'm long since out of date with the state of the music industry, but your post was so full of actual relevance it deserved a quote anyway.FieryTrainwreck said:
Heh. I think I'd call this a win-win, whoever loses. But if I were a betting man, I'd put my money on Anonymous. There's a significant number of people out there with decent software to cover their footprints, and despite what Simmons might like to think, the heavy-hitters of law enforcement have better things to do with their time than research DoS attacks on the web sites of washed-up rock icons.
Gene Simmons is a colossal tool. And not just for suggesting everyone get sue-happy, tie everything up with ISP subpoenas, and throw nine-year-olds in the slammer. Do a web search on Gene Simmons' appearance on Fresh Air if you doubt it.
Gene Simmons is a colossal tool. And not just for suggesting everyone get sue-happy, tie everything up with ISP subpoenas, and throw nine-year-olds in the slammer. Do a web search on Gene Simmons' appearance on Fresh Air if you doubt it.
So saying how things could have been handled warranted an attack? And you are supporting this. So if you had a site and said something 4Chan did not like and they attacked your site you wouldn't be pissed and want to take them down? Seriously Anon has decided to go after someone who has A LOT of resources and money he is not going to go down without a fight.TechNoFear said:
I'd like to think that it's more of a Urine Drinking Cycle, where you can harmlessly go back and forth three times before it gets just plain unhealthy. I'm guessing what I'm saying here is that both sides are probably going back and forth a couple times before things get REALLY ugly. Right now, it's just a challenge against each other. The ball's in Anon's court now, but the volleys will definitely be powerful near the end of the match.Paksenarrion said:
Sorry for the twin analogies there, but I suppose both are valid in this situation. If it's going to be a long battle, prepare for near internet war zones to pop up.
It's going to be raining urine on the internet. Like that last fight scene in the last Matrix movie. Except instead of rain, it's urine.Magnatek said: