The companies don't actually lose money, at least not in any quantifiable amount.ForgottenPr0digy said:I wouldn't call this guy a hero.
hacking the apple iphone and ps3 to me is kinda dumb because you open the market for black market apps. This cause companies to lose money and they start attacking everyone(customer and hackers in equal force) so we all suffer because of his actions.
When companies over-react (attacking everyone), they are to blame for their own actions.ForgottenPr0digy said:I wouldn't call this guy a hero.
hacking the apple iphone and ps3 to me is kinda dumb because you open the market for black market apps. This cause companies to lose money and they start attacking everyone(customer and hackers in equal force) so we all suffer because of his actions.
What counter-argument? You just invoked Goodwin's Law - no one will take you seriously now.KeyMaster45 said:That Norwegian gunman and Hitler didn't believe they were doing anything wrong either.Greg Tito said:Still, George Hotz isn't a bad guy. He honestly doesn't believe he is doing anything wrong by hacking computers, phones or gaming consoles, even though major corporations like Sony and Apple may think differently. "This is the struggle of our generation, the struggle between control of information and freedom of information."
*leans back in chair*
I await everyone's counter-arguments.
Who said I wanted to be taken seriously?Raiyan 1.0 said:What counter-argument? You just invoked Goodwin's Law - no one will take you seriously now.KeyMaster45 said:That Norwegian gunman and Hitler didn't believe they were doing anything wrong either.Greg Tito said:Still, George Hotz isn't a bad guy. He honestly doesn't believe he is doing anything wrong by hacking computers, phones or gaming consoles, even though major corporations like Sony and Apple may think differently. "This is the struggle of our generation, the struggle between control of information and freedom of information."
*leans back in chair*
I await everyone's counter-arguments.
I honestly can't think of any reason why this was reported on. What exactly was your motivation for this news?Greg Tito said:GeoHot Was High When He Posted PS3 Hack
The famous hacker offers a few dirty secrets from his past.
fair share of weed [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/tags/geohot?] and popped a few pills.
"I'm the complete opposite of Anonymous," he told The New Yorker. "I'm George Hotz. Everything I do is aboveboard, everything I do is legit."
When Anonymous began #OpSony to fight for Hotz's rights, he was just worried that the Japanese would think he was somehow involved. "I hope to God Sony doesn't think this is me," he thought.
After the lawsuit between Hotz and Sony was settled [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/109150-GeoHot-and-Sony-Settle-PS3-Jailbreak-Case], he was even invited to Sony's offices to divulge his methods for rendering the PS3 under his control. "If there were going to be lawyers there," he said, "I was going to be the biggest asshole ever." But the Sony engineering guys were "respectful" and just wanted to learn from him.
The picture that Hotz paints as a "white-hat" hacker or one that operates within his legal rights doesn't exactly jive with some of his behavior.
For example, while running a red light near his residence in Palo Alto, CA, he said. "Fuck these assholes. Stupidest red light ever. It makes no sense at all. I live by morals, I don't live by laws. Laws are something made by assholes."
He also has made his drug use pretty clear. Before a photo shoot celebrating Hotz's victory at the International Science and Engineering Fair in 2007, he admitted to smoking marijuana. "My eyes are bloodshot" in the photo, he said. "It's great."
Drug use also contributed to the public release of the PS3's master key. Hotz said he had taken Vicodin and OxyContin that day which may have made him a little freer with his hacking knowledge. "You just feel good about everything," Hotz remembered.
Still, George Hotz isn't a bad guy. He honestly doesn't believe he is doing anything wrong by hacking computers, phones or gaming consoles, even though major corporations like Sony and Apple may think differently. "This is the struggle of our generation, the struggle between control of information and freedom of information."
In that struggle, GeoHot fights to keep it all free.
Source: New Yorker [http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/05/07/120507fa_fact_kushner#ixzz1tejPyYNd]
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I'm the kind of person that stands at a crossing and waits for the light to tell me I can walk across, even if the street is entirely empty and I'm the only person there (call me crazy), but I don't think he was saying "hey, I just drove through this red light in the middle of rush hour." What I got from it was him ignoring a red light because there was no cars or people anywhere in the area.Vault101 said:[b/]For example, while running a red light near his residence in Palo Alto, CA, he said. "Fuck these assholes. Stupidest red light ever. It makes no sense at all. I live by morals, I don't live by laws. Laws are something made by assholes." [/b]
and THATS the problem..some jerk thinks he's smarter than "the systm" and somone will end up hit by a car...dress it up all you want running a red light is running a red light...no matter how "justified" you feel
Sigh... No... no he's not.Greg Tito said:George Hotz is arguably the most recognizable hacker name in the world.
Fine, go ahead.F4LL3N said:That's funny. Because when I read the article, I was like, I'm using that shit.mad825 said:And in the latest news: rebellious teenagers drink alcohol.
I wouldn't exactly call GeoHot Robinhood...Neither would I quote his pseudo-philosophy. Still, if he's willing to make fun and poke at the money grabbers I'm not going to get in his way.
"I live by morals, I don't live by laws. Laws are something made by assholes."-Geohot
This. I mean, Mitnick even had a film made about him, hes released various books and hes pretty iconic. Geo is a clever guy, if not bit of a gibbon, but I wouldn't say hes the most recognisable hacker name in the world.TomLikesGuitar said:Sigh... No... no he's not.Greg Tito said:George Hotz is arguably the most recognizable hacker name in the world.
I'd actually never heard this guy's name until right now.
He will never be anything like, say, Mitnick.
I can see where the "most recognisable hacker name in the world" viewpoint comes from. There were a couple of weeks last year where geohot was being reported on almost every day and people who were looking into why the psn was down no doubt came across his name. This made many people aware of him when normally they wouldn't have been.Fasckira said:This. I mean, Mitnick even had a film made about him, hes released various books and hes pretty iconic. Geo is a clever guy, if not bit of a gibbon, but I wouldn't say hes the most recognisable hacker name in the world.TomLikesGuitar said:Sigh... No... no he's not.Greg Tito said:George Hotz is arguably the most recognizable hacker name in the world.
I'd actually never heard this guy's name until right now.
He will never be anything like, say, Mitnick.