Ghostbusters Director Calls Out "Assholes in Geek Culture"
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Here is my thoughts. First, I can't say if the film itself will be good or bad. Did I like the trailer? Nope. Why? Because for one, it seemed to reveal too much of the plot. That trailer could of been broken down into 3 smaller trailers, and probably would not of gotten as much heat on the film.
Second though, he's not wrong, there most definitely does appear to be a campaign to downvote. Look at the comments section of the video. People saying they came in, paused and only downvoted. Feig's response though wasn't the right way to handle it. If he truly wanted to shut the trolls down, he could of simply disabled voting and comments, and bam, the trolls would have no where else to go.
But my final thoughts, The assholes he spoke of, they make themselves look petty and childish. But his calling them out, has not helped his image either.
Second though, he's not wrong, there most definitely does appear to be a campaign to downvote. Look at the comments section of the video. People saying they came in, paused and only downvoted. Feig's response though wasn't the right way to handle it. If he truly wanted to shut the trolls down, he could of simply disabled voting and comments, and bam, the trolls would have no where else to go.
But my final thoughts, The assholes he spoke of, they make themselves look petty and childish. But his calling them out, has not helped his image either.
Gotta love the damage control that this director has been sent out to spearhead
Everyone knows the movie looks like crap - the comedic timing was flatter than slashed tires, and the overall tone of the trailer was a nasty detour from how the original movies worked.
...but no, its just evil geek culture. It's not the movie's fault, nope nope nope.
Bloody hell.
Even if what he's complaining over is people talking shit about him for directing it - well, what did you expect, directing what looks to be a shit movie that disrespects a beloved nostalgic IP? Especially when you're doubling down on not admitting that the trailer looks bad.
Can't this thing just come out, so it can bomb and we can be over with it?
Everyone knows the movie looks like crap - the comedic timing was flatter than slashed tires, and the overall tone of the trailer was a nasty detour from how the original movies worked.
...but no, its just evil geek culture. It's not the movie's fault, nope nope nope.
Bloody hell.
Even if what he's complaining over is people talking shit about him for directing it - well, what did you expect, directing what looks to be a shit movie that disrespects a beloved nostalgic IP? Especially when you're doubling down on not admitting that the trailer looks bad.
Can't this thing just come out, so it can bomb and we can be over with it?
Seems kinda funny seeing people who would be classed as 'Geek culture' be all like 'OH YES GEEKS DO HAVE A PROBLEM IT'S TERRIBLE HOW PRIMITIVE. THOSE BLASTED MRA'S/SJWS *adjusts monocle*' I'm not even sure what Geek Culture is really, especially given the popularity of things like The Big Bang Theory, Superman, or... well, anything. Worst still is comparisons saying that the 'Angry Geeks' are simply those Red Pillers or Tumblrites or whatever the popular words are nowadays.
Really isn't it just assholes? The love of things (especially something like Ghostbusters which every man and their dog knows of) is just so nebulous you can't really blame a group.
Just complain that people don't like your movie, have some... I don't even know the word. I didn't like the trailer because it seems like everyday Hollywood guff. Pretty sure I haven't even watched Ghostbusters, or at least I don't remember.
God damn when did everything get so tribalistic? When did everyone think they were above it all?
Ah, no, that second one is easy. Nobody thinks they're wrong after all.
Really isn't it just assholes? The love of things (especially something like Ghostbusters which every man and their dog knows of) is just so nebulous you can't really blame a group.
Just complain that people don't like your movie, have some... I don't even know the word. I didn't like the trailer because it seems like everyday Hollywood guff. Pretty sure I haven't even watched Ghostbusters, or at least I don't remember.
God damn when did everything get so tribalistic? When did everyone think they were above it all?
Ah, no, that second one is easy. Nobody thinks they're wrong after all.
And people's first reaction is to...engage in the exact thing he's railing on them for. It's times like this where it's clear geek culture needs to be burned to the ground and rebuilt like a controlled forest fire.
Something I find funny is so many people think that "geek" culture is one of the ones filled with the most assholes versus any other kind of culture. I'd heavily disagree, there are assholes everywhere, we're just in geek culture ourselves so we're more likely to run into those assholes than anywhere else.
To go along with that, what exactly is geek culture? Is it just people who are adamantly excited about the things they like to do that they "geek out" about it? Then using the term geek culture is like saying people who eat meat culture, it's just so broad and has no meaning at this point. Of course anyone that geeks out about something is liable to get bitter quickly if you mess with their stuff. I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying it's what happens.
As for what he said specifically about the movie, all he said to any criticism was "it's my job to know what's funny, trust me, this is hilarious." If you find it funny, good for you. I think it looks like hot shit.
To go along with that, what exactly is geek culture? Is it just people who are adamantly excited about the things they like to do that they "geek out" about it? Then using the term geek culture is like saying people who eat meat culture, it's just so broad and has no meaning at this point. Of course anyone that geeks out about something is liable to get bitter quickly if you mess with their stuff. I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying it's what happens.
As for what he said specifically about the movie, all he said to any criticism was "it's my job to know what's funny, trust me, this is hilarious." If you find it funny, good for you. I think it looks like hot shit.
I never knew how much money it made. Now I'm depressed.Zhukov said:
It might have to do with the hissyfit that was being thrown before a single actor, a single frame of footage, or the trailer came out. Weirdly enough, the controversy started when the word "female" was uttered.Casual Shinji said:
It might have to do with the systemic way this movie has come under fire, heavier than any other "hated" or "garbage" movie has. See below.
Right. So why didn't Amazing Spider-Man get such a reaction? AMS2? Man of Steel? Batman v Superman? Green Lantern? Fantastic 4?Adam Jensen said:
Most of those trailers are sitting at over 90% approval ratings on YouTube.
I think we can rule out "this movie is garbage" as the specific reason that there's a campaign to downvote it and there's been so many outraged guys. It shouldn't be hard to figure out why people are ruling this rather transparent excuse out.
Oh deary me, Steven, forever baiting fanboy rage. What commission comes with the clicks and comments?
I'll leave the salt for everyone else to conflate their heart palpitations with. *head-desk*
I'll leave the salt for everyone else to conflate their heart palpitations with. *head-desk*
Makes a passionless shitty movie with a shit trailer based on a well beloved franchise and then claims that the people calling it out are assholes...yeah seems legit
Possibly because you don't see other groups freak out and react like this. And yet, it's (now un)surprisingly common to see here. Especially now that we have a "censorship" nontroversy every week. Just maybe there's a reason people single out "geek" culture.klaynexas3 said:
Being an asshole doesn't make me wrong, doesn't make me right either but when you start with a movie that most people grew up with and still holds up very well outside of the nostalgia crowd and you replace it with bottom of the barrel no effort jokes and pop culture parody something the original movie never needed, you replace amazing practical effects that still hold up with no-effort cgi that looks bad for 10 years ago, you do not get my money, to get my money by making a good movie all other considerations are secondary, I do not care who the star is if the product is quality.
Yeah, people in the geek culture can be assholes. You know who also is an asshole? Paul Fieg. He always comes off as a huge prick for some reason.
Here we have the standard "hater" defense for hacks: make something that sucks, get criticisms, brush off critics as nothing but haters. Yes, there are assholes on the internet that will just shit on any potentially sensitive topic, but to place all critique behind a scapegoat is just incredibly unprofessional.
Unfunny trailer for the highly-anticipated remake of one of the defining movies of a generation gets downvoted to hell in the world's biggest video-sharing platform, in which everyone has an account and everyone is free to rate the trailer.
It truly is a mystery for the ages. Jet fuel doesn't melt steel beams, amirite?
This is the part of the "outrage" that I just don't get. Does this new movie prevent the old one from existing? No. But from many reactions you'd think that Feig was going back in time to erase the original movie from history.Soulrender95 said:
That's the whole "asshole" culture that's being talked about here. "That belongs to us, and you can't touch it without our permission, or we'll gang up on you and destroy you!" The quality of this new movie is of course perfectly open to debate, but the whole "ruined forever, you are the enemy!" mentality needs to go back to the grade-school playground where it belongs.
I know it's being heaped on the 'because there's women' pile, and it certainly attracts people like that, but I find it odd then that movies like Fury Road, Zootopia, The Force Awakens, and the recent Rogue One trailer got off scott free. Those movies also had their 'women suck' crowd, but it was fairly marginal.Something Amyss said:
I'm sorry, but I didn't see people explode into a giant ball of rage (whether justified or not) until the trailer came out and ended up looking the way it did. Everything that came beforehand was the general predictions of doom and gloom that preceed the announcement of any remake/reboot/sequel.
