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DudeistBelieve

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Roboshi said:
DudeistBelieve said:
I think the people worshipping Ghostbusters like it's some sort of sacred cow are.... I mean i watched the original. It's okay, that's about the best I can say about it. I watched it once, have no urge to see it again.
I will say it's vastly superior to the modern trend of comedies which tend to consist of "fat girl fall down go boom boom".

Though I'm surprised you're looking forward to DC's 18th attempt to start a cinematic universe.
I liked Man Of Steel. BvS was meh, but it set up the universe.

Suicide Squad seems like it'll be a nice little self-contained story with only a bit of world building. Sort of like how Dead Pool was just a simple revenge story. So I have high high hopes it won't suck too hard.

Plus it's Live Action Harley Quinn.
 

Mister K

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a) Doesn't change the fact that this is a remake, idea of which I am opposed to.

b) Ratings and scores can be manipulated, so I don't actually think that this indicates something.

So no, I am not going to watch it.
 

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So general consensus so far seems to amount to, "Ehh, it's okay I guess".

Which is disappointing.

If it was utter garbage or undeniably brilliant then it'd finally put this stupid fucking argument to rest. The winning side would crow about it for a few weeks then we'd all move on, maybe bring it up every now and again to score internet points.

But if it lands right in the middle then we just get both sides declaring victory then arguing for fucking ages about who really won.

Or, in other words... pic.twitter.com/Nkrk0txytK [https://t.co/Nkrk0txytK]
 

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Movie critics are not an accurate gauge of popular public opinion. [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1289401/reviews?ref_=tt_urv]
 

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Round 2 in the Ghostbusters debate... another one.

Nostalgia can be poisonous and toxic at times.
 

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Arnoxthe1 said:
Movie critics are not an accurate gauge of popular public opinion. [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1289401/reviews?ref_=tt_urv]
Good. I'm far more interested in a work's quality rather than what review bombers think.
Chanticoblues said:
Arnoxthe1 said:
Movie critics are not an accurate gauge of popular public opinion. [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1289401/reviews?ref_=tt_urv]
Should they be?
No, the job of a critic is to tell us whether the work is actually good or not. And in this case, public outrage had poisoned the well from the outset, so in this case, user reviews on review aggregators is going to mean even less than it usually does.
 

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Chanticoblues said:
Arnoxthe1 said:
Movie critics are not an accurate gauge of popular public opinion. [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1289401/reviews?ref_=tt_urv]
Should they be?
No. I expect them to be accurate. They're [https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/titan_ae] not. [https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/casper] Or at least, to be fair, not all the time.
 

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The delicious - and stupid - thing about all this is that the film's existence has become so heavily politicized in the great and eternal struggle between online twats that no review will ever be free of suspicion. Do people "actually" like it as a film or are they scoring a blow against perceived misogyny? Do people "actually" dislike it as a film or are they striking back against perceived PC madness?
 

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Arnoxthe1 said:
Movie critics are not an accurate gauge of popular public opinion. [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1289401/reviews?ref_=tt_urv]
And if the popularity of Transformers and Call of Duty are anything to go by, neither are user reviews like the ones you posted.

Really, this is the last movie I would ever put any stock into the user reviews for, if its not people who haven't seen it review bombing it, then its defenders who haven't seen it giving it perfect 10's.


As Hawki said, the controversy has made user review aggregates less reliable than they usually are, and their reliability is questionable at the best of times as any sort of controversy tends to draw review bombing, and this movie had stupid amounts of controversy online.

If user reviews were an accurate gauge of public opinion, then Adam Sandler movies wouldn't make money, Call of Duty games wouldn't get made any more, and Michael Bay would be broke.
 

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I'm glad to hear that, though the impression I've got is less that it was good and more better than we thought, which isn't hard considering how poorly it was advertised. Might give it a watch, though it's second in line behind Finding Dory for me.
 

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Arnoxthe1 said:
Chanticoblues said:
Arnoxthe1 said:
Movie critics are not an accurate gauge of popular public opinion. [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1289401/reviews?ref_=tt_urv]
Should they be?
No. I expect them to be accurate. They're [https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/titan_ae] not. [https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/casper] Or at least, to be fair, not all the time.
Define "accurate." Because those examples show very little critic-audience divide, and if your definition of "accurate" is "critics should give the movie the score I think it should get," then, well, yeah. Have fun with that.

Also, 52% sounds just about right for Titan A.E. I'm very surprised as to how low Casper scored, but hey, that's just me. I've got far better things to do than make up conspiracy theories and rant that critics are out of touch. Not that you've done such a thing necessarily, but let's not pretend that these arguments always come up when people disagree with critics.
 

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Is it really a remake, though? It's labelled as a remake, but at no point does it ever claim that it's attempting to replace the source material in any way. It's quite clearly making its own effort to be an original movie.

The originals aren't going anywhere, the new movie doesn't impact the quality of the old in any way, it isn't mindless pandering to try and score nostalgia points, and shit, they're even making the movie accessible to people who never saw the original Ghostbuster movies.

Frankly, this is just a new installation into the Ghostbusters franchise.
Categorically, this is incorrect. Taking from the trailer, while the film has some original material such as that knuckle duster thing and I'll assume the ghosts since the band one looked fairly interesting, this is very close to a beat for beat remake in a lot of ways.

Two scientists with different but similar values
Third quirky one who helped finalise invention
Messed up first encounter
Joined by average joe (which Paul Feig apparently read as 'Black person joins', not even going to get INTO that)
In a fire-house
Where they buy a Hearse to be their company car
Large scale ghost invasion.

Now, I haven't seen it yet, but so far that is a beat for beat remake, not Ghostbuster III.

This very much IS geared towards pandering, it's Rule 63 Ghostbusters. A quick look at the plot synopsis on Wikipedia mentions a demon called Rowan (who is played by Neil Casey. Which makes me sad because I hoped they'd commit and do a FULL gender swap because then at least it'd have novelty but it seems after the Ghostbusters the rest of the cast is male including any antagonists), but that does imply there'll be some original material in there which might be funny.

But you can't just wash it under the rug with "It's not a remake, it's too original" because I'll bet you $5 the 'EPA' turns up in some capacity. Or some adjusted version.
 

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dunam said:
Nah, I don't think you've been paying attention to the news coverage. If you don't like this movie, you're sexist, apparantly.
How strange then, that you can find any number of people who have been critical of the movie without being accused of sexism.

I wonder what sets apart the people being accused of sexism from the ones who aren't....

Arnoxthe1 said:
Movie critics are not an accurate gauge of popular public opinion. [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1289401/reviews?ref_=tt_urv]
Why do I care about popular public opinion in the first place? 2014's top grossing movie was Transformers: Age of Extinction. 2015's was The Force Awakens, which I imagine would also be controversial to many. We would also have to give legitimacy to 50 Shades of Grey, Twilight. Taylor Swift is one of the best musicians of all time, and Call of Duty deserves those high marks every year. This is what happens when you democratise criticism.
 

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Roeper crucified it. That's enough for me. Top Critics on RT is at 50%, which creates a major and not too-typical 25%+ deviation from All Critics. The review average for this movie cannot be trusted, because of the controversy and review averages are already fairly tricky and often unrepresentative to begin with.

Use RT as a means to scout out individual critics, not scores. Read a few, pick the ones that you find are closer to your tastes and go back to read them for every new movie that comes out.
 

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Mister K said:
a) Doesn't change the fact that this is a remake, idea of which I am opposed to.

b) Ratings and scores can be manipulated, so I don't actually think that this indicates something.

So no, I am not going to watch it.
Did someone on here ask you to go?

But on a serious note, I understands. My last straw for remakes was the lacklustre Force Awakens.
 

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...Wait, people were expecting this movie to NOT be a 7/10? What are they, sexists?

Though, on a more serious note: I'm so over internet reaction to movies at this point I'm just going to see the fucking thing myself and be done with it. It looks alright. Like a 7/10. Like I'm going to watch it and not regret the 20 bucks for the ticket, but not come back the next day to watch it again like Pacific Rim.

I mean, shit, I like the new Independence Day and apparently that's Satan's Final Curse upon the world of mortal men. Fuck the haters and ignore the imbalanced user reviews, just watch the fuckin' thing and judge for yourself whether it's warmed the shriveled depths of your cold, dead heart or driven the final nail into the coffin that holds all your hopes and dreams for a better tomorrow. Much easier than getting into a slapfight with someone who hates/loves a movie because 4/5ths of the main cast happen to possess a vagina.

(Though not being keen on it because of the trailers is understandable. Jesus fuckin' christ Hollywood, what is with you and fucking up trailers? They're not that hard, c'mon.)
 

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It was always going to be needlessly and nastily condemned because of the all female cast.

It was always going to get reasonable reviews because any bad reviews would be pilloried as sexist.

Overall, it's probably an average film that will pass the time if you care to watch it.
 

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dunam said:
Nah, I don't think you've been paying attention to the news coverage. If you don't like this movie, you're sexist, apparantly.
given the quality of discourse I've seen that's not far off the mark
 

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ErrrorWayz said:
It was always going to be needlessly and nastily condemned because of the all female cast.
People keep saying this as though it's a common thing, rather than a few outgroups nobody likes.