Gina Carano Fired From “The Mandalorian” Over “Abhorrent” Social Media Posts

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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Still its a bit hypocritical. One Disney actress defended China's assault on Hong Kong and her movie thanked a concentration camp. That wasn't considered a problem, neither are the views of James Wood, but this woman being a far right freak is suddenly unacceptable? It seems like Disney fired her not just for her views but primarily because she was powerless to strike back while opposing China or even other actors like James Wood might have potentially cost Disney something.

Also I'm curious but did all the right wingers who find Carano's firing unacceptable also defend James Gunn a few years ago? When there was an orchestrated attempt by the alt right to oust him because he didn't like Trump? When this was done not by the stances he currently had about current matters but by fishing up old tweets from years ago?
Yeah, but that was after the movie (Mulan) was done, right? They couldn't exactly fire her after that. And is James Woods still employed by Disney?
 

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No she isn't.
You can simply choose to stop support republicans, or Trump or bigoted policies etc. Not saying all of these things are the same(although, there's an overlap), but you can simply change.
The Jews in Nazi Germany never had that choice.

This is why her comparison is ridiculed. It's less her making any valid point and just another example of some people on the right inflating things, so they could be perceived as opressed. "Because, sure minorities have it tough(have they though?), but what about MEEEEE?"
You know that Jewish people aren't the only group that the Nazis persecuted, right? Of these groups were people who did have a choice to opt-out of whatever group they were in. For example, Jehovah's Witnesses.

So the point still works. Nazi Germany turned public opinion against groups they hated, groups that you could opt-out of. This was the beginning of persecution and atrocities committed against those groups.
 

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He's not saying that Jews are running Hollywood or anything! I stopped watching after that.

I hope Disney gets sued for libel. Look at what they published:

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I've read the tweet. She was calling for unity. But there is a powerful cabal of haters with an agenda out there lead by... rhymes with bafleen trenedy.

 
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”Jews were beaten in the streets, not by Nazi soldiers but by their neighbors…even by children. Because history is edited, most people today don’t realize that to get to the point where Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousands of Jews, the government first made their own neighbors hate them simply for being Jews. How is that any different from hating someone for their political views,” she wrote.

Other posts, including a quote saying “Expecting everyone you encounter to agree with every belief or view you hold is fucking wild,” and one saying “Jeff Epstein didn’t kill himself,” remained.




I’ve never watched the series or even care about Star Wars. Is it any good?

Anyways, it’s getting really predictable with social media spelling the death knell for celebrities. When will they learn they can only whisper controversial statements to themselves? Maybe she really didn’t care.
So controversial it's almost the exact same sentiment the Auschwitz Museum put out in 2018


"Legal Exclusion" being a term of particular note.
 

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I've posted at least once that in the private sector, selective enforcement can get a company in trouble. Pedro Pascal posted something far more objectionable than Gina's and he isn't fired. She may have wrongful termination rights here. I don't know as she may have had a simple contract Disney declines to renew. And her post was not tasteless. It was spot on.
Whether what Pedro Pascale said was more or less objectionable is more a subjective decision depending on one's political leanings. I think however the key difference is that Pascale hasn't been making as much of a habit of it.

The Left is openly calling for attacks upon some 75 million nationalists who dare oppose them, doing so on TV, and more.
Most of the US right has overtly supported a president who attempted to overturn a democratic election, and a bunch of them stormed the Capitol to try to make it happen with substantial popular support (or at least tolerance) from the rest.

So you'll forgive me when I say the US right has pretty much forfeited the credibility to complain about "attacks" from the left, because attempting a coup is pretty much the final word in attacking the opposition.
 
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Most of the US right has overtly supported a president who attempted to overturn a democratic election, and a bunch of them stormed the Capitol to try to make it happen with substantial popular support (or at least tolerance) from the rest.

So you'll forgive me when I say the US right has pretty much forfeited the credibility to complain about "attacks" from the left, because attempting a coup is pretty much the final word in attacking the opposition.
"It's okay, because they deserve it!"
Pop quiz: Was this or was this not the average German citizen's response regarding Nazi treatment of Jews and other groups?
 
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Whether what Pedro Pascale said was more or less objectionable is more a subjective decision depending on one's political leanings. I think however the key difference is that Pascale hasn't been making as much of a habit of it.

Most of the US right has overtly supported a president who attempted to overturn a democratic election, and a bunch of them stormed the Capitol to try to make it happen with substantial popular support (or at least tolerance) from the rest.

So you'll forgive me when I say the US right has pretty much forfeited the credibility to complain about "attacks" from the left, because attempting a coup is pretty much the final word in attacking the opposition.
Time magazine largely admitted that Biden's elevation was due to a "billionaire's coup". Just one more example of the powerful telling the voters they don't matter.

I don't know that Pascale has or has not made much of a habit of posting things. A jury could decide this was a wrongful termination. I don't think that will happen. I'm hoping she sues over the Disney defamation of her I posted earlier. She could win that with damages being her lost future earnings. She could lose it if the jury has people of the same ideology as, say, Kathleen Kennedy.
 

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Mmm no, still isn't censorship, because she still was allowed to say it. No one stopped her from saying it. She faced a consequence. A consequence isn't the same as censorship. Censorship is a suppression of someone's voice/opinion in this context. That didn't happen. She said what she said, it was dumb as fuck, and no one censored her.
Then later Disney didn't renew her contract as a result of her dumb as fuck opinion. Not censorship, its a consequence, one Disney or any company is allowed to make. She was an at-will employee who could be terminated for any reason. Unless of course you're implying companies should be forced to hire/keep employed people regardless of the rules of the employer.
To use the claim of the African Warlord

"The people have free speech, they can say whatever they like while I'm speaking. However my men are very loyal and like me a lot so what happens to those who speak once I'm no longer there I cannot say".

The idea of private companies or groups doing something isn't censorship means the Hays Code, The Comics Code, The Council of Trent Fig leaf campaign, all don't count as censorship either. I consider them censorship I dunno about you but I see them as very much restricting art and free expression which is censorship.


She got shit canned for functionally violating employee social media policy. Basically everyone who works for something with more than five people has one of those. They exist and the blind ignorance people still display with Twitter and Facebook is mind boggling.
Strange how Disney didn't react to the doxxing spree of one of it's stars


I know people may not be fans of Jeremy but worth pointing out that Skai Jackson doxxed the wrong people in some cases and in other cases trolls sent her fake images so she doxxed people based on false info and helped spread lies about them which some people believe and used to target them and their lives and the lives of their family.
 

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Yeah, but that was after the movie (Mulan) was done, right? They couldn't exactly fire her after that. And is James Woods still employed by Disney?
He was in Kingdom Hearts 3 as of late. After that, I dunno. I imagine it would've been news if they'd fired him.

On the other hand Shuri from Black Panther had her little vaxx/trans/fraud rant in December, but unlike Gina she knew to shut the fuck up and quit Twitter.
 

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Time magazine largely admitted that Biden's elevation was due to a "billionaire's coup". Just one more example of the powerful telling the voters they don't matter.
Biden won by over 7 million votes (4.4%). Maybe show some respect for the votes of your fellow citizens, whether or not the billionaires sided with them.
 
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She's been shitty for a bit now. Anti-trans stuff, anti-mask stuff, general dumbfuckery...
Considering she's been getting yelled at for general dumbfuckery for a while, it's probably safe to assume she was comparing conservatives to Jewish people in that reference. Not the first time I've seen that and it's always stupid

Disney decided a random side character's probably not worth it. And considering damn near every big name calling to cancel Disney Plus has spent the last three weeks trying to get various High Republic writers fired for their politics, it's probably gonna stick.
She refused to put pronouns in her bio hen being pressured to. Tell me are you a Transphobe because you don't have your gender identity on display publicly here?
Am I?
Is @Trunkage for identifying their gender as a Cyborg at present?
As for Anti Mask



It was a fairly fast flip and kinda funny originally wearing a mask was seen as going against the advice, being selfish and not great. I'm not going to be pissy at some-one asking question when things flipped pretty quickly and more so when they're not in science as see this more as a conformity push. Some people will push against such seeming conformity pushes. I'm pro mask, have been since this thing kicked off. What doesn't help is certain people pushing for mask etc etc then not obeying the rules themselves. Its the perception of people doing this not because they know but just to not stand out. It's the guy with gloves on and a facemask eating chips in the middle of the supermarket with the same disposable gloves on and his mask pulled down.

As for the High Republic writer, you mean the one who basically said "Fuck white people, fuck white women, you're the problem with society and need to get out the way". That writer?

I'm just going to put it out there that the UK Labour Party has just been hounded for years by the right wing press on accusations of antisemitism over stuff much of which was on a similar level.

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I think we all understand that if we brought our employer into disrepute or undermined its values in public we would likely face disciplinary action, and most employers make clear what sort of standards they expect. Disney is a media empire that wants to sell cuddly, non-controversial, inclusive media to kids (and adults) worldwide, and the last thing they want are prominent actors in key media franchises screwing with that carefully honed image they're putting a lot of effort - i.e. money - into maintaining. And let's bear in mind this is not the first time Carano has tested Disney's patience.

So although I have some sympathy with Carano for getting fired over a tasteless-to-offensive social media post, it comes with the territory of who she worked for. If she is unaware of the fact that Disney was almost certainly going to look upon her posts unfavourably enough that she might face adverse consequences, she's a fucking idiot.
You mean like Corbyn defending the priest who claimed the Jews did 9/11? Cause sorry that's actually quite a bit more serious. Then again in the USA a democrat lawmaker was mostly fine to keep his job after spreading conspiracy theories about a Rothchild weather machine being responsible for some snow storms.

Ya mean the company that did this?

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I'm pretty sure that "wholesome public image" boat sailed a long, long time ago...
Don't forget they fire most Disney Princesses at 25-27 and some of the insane stuff that goes on with all that stuff at Disneyland and injuries due to costumes etc. Or the poor treatment of employees in general at the parks etc.


Pretty much anywhere if you know where and how to find it!

Did YOU use this intentionally? Because now your equating kids in cages with someone losing their job.
Fun fact, that photo is not of kids in the USA it's from a soup kitchen in Israel and they're not locked in the cage as such.
 

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I was content to ignore this because it is at it's heart celebrity drama which I just don't care about, but there's been a development that raises a practical issue in my mind.


How are they going film Ben Shapiro walking when he has to stand on a box whenever he's on screen with her?
 
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I was content to ignore this because it is at it's heart celebrity drama which I just don't care about, but there's been a development that raises a practical issue in my mind.


How are they going film Ben Shapiro walking when he has to stand on a box whenever he's on screen with her?
It's Hollywood Movie Magic!

If they can make Tom Cruise look tall, they can make anyone look tall :D
 

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I was content to ignore this because it is at it's heart celebrity drama which I just don't care about, but there's been a development that raises a practical issue in my mind.


How are they going film Ben Shapiro walking when he has to stand on a box whenever he's on screen with her?
Phew!
"Carano told us today: “The Daily Wire is helping make one of my dreams — to develop and produce my own film — come true. I cried out and my prayer was answered. I am sending out a direct message of hope to everyone living in fear of cancellation by the totalitarian mob. "
 

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Phew!
"Carano told us today: “The Daily Wire is helping make one of my dreams — to develop and produce my own film — come true. I cried out and my prayer was answered. I am sending out a direct message of hope to everyone living in fear of cancellation by the totalitarian mob. "
Yes, cancelled so hard she gets a backup movie deal. Hardcore cancelling action.
 

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Chris Pratt is a member of a church that believes in gay conversion, which would probably get him in hot water too if he kept tweeting about it. The difference is he doesn't. (Still, fuck Chris Pratt.)

I am curious whether this was a panic fire from Disney in light of... well, everything from the last month or so, or if Disney had already contacted Carano's management before telling them to have her reign in her bullshit and she just wouldn't resulting in this outcome.
I mean the same mob that got Gina fired were trying to get Chris Pratt fired too.
So far they've done:
Unsubstantiated claims he believes in Gay conversion.
Calling for him to be fired for not joining in the Avengers Biden Fundraiser event (others didn't join in too but he was singled out by the twitter mobs)
Accusations he wasn't taking things seriously enough by doing his "What's my Snack" series and not talking about the serious issues in the world. So he did an apology video which was trolling the hell out of people.
He faced the same mob circulated faked offensive tweets trying to get him fired.
He faced the mob outraged he made a joke that the Miss World contestants all looked like they were Miss Hungry

All this move will do is embolden the mob who want Chris Pratt (and others) fired. I mean Benedict Cumberbatch had a fairly public gaff on live TV before which could well result in them coming for him too.

I kinda hope Warner Brothers just hires Carano as a giant screw you to Disney now lol.
 

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Haha! The quickest way to lose any legitimacy is to involve Ben Shapiro in your bullshit. Wow. This'll be a laugh.
 
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Tim Allen in 2017


Comparing being a Republican in the USA to living in 1930s germany.

Guess Disney gonna have to fire the voice of Woody now.