"Girl Gamer Syndrome"

sumanoskae

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I would very much enjoy a relationship with a girl I could talk to about the infinite depth and genius of KOTOR II, but not if she makes a big deal out of it. If she doesn't like games enough that I don't already know she's a gamer(Or if she's a poser, as it sounds), then there's no point anyway... or if she thinks CoD makes her a nerd.
 

VecTron5

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(male gamer here) Fun fact; I once had my twelve year old sister speak into my microphone at the beginning of a team slayer match on Reach, and my teammates spent the entire round hitting on me and teabagging my corpses. I told them they were punk'd at the end of the match a all simultaneously backed out of the lobby.
 

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Kriptonite said:
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But generally speaking games are not made gender-neutral.
Well, I was thinking more like, yes, games are, mostly, for guys, but in a "subtle"[footnote]I say 'subtle' because it doesn't say "For Guys" in the title.[/footnote] manner. But there are a few games made for girls[footnote]They say so on the-pink-cover. Games such as those that fall under the Barbie/Ponies/Baby care etc.[/footnote].
Basically, I was thinking there are games, and there are games made for girls.
Yeah I think I get what you mean. With cosmetic products for example (shampoo etc) here in the Netherlands we're seeing brands having a "For Men" line. Like 'Nivea' shampoo for women and 'Nivea For Men' shampoo for men.

But, this is about marketing, not content. Yes, girl-games are marketed as being girl-games and boy-games are marketed as being neutral games, but the way they are designed, it's clear 'games for girls' are made for girls and 'games' are made for boys.

There certainly are neutral games. The Sims, Rollercoaster Tycoon, Tetris, etc.

But you don't have to put the words "For men" on the cover of Gears of War or X-blade to see they cater not-so-subtly to male fantasies. (EDIT: upon further inspection, it seems America got a... less cheeky boxart for X-blade)
 

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For a long time being a "gamer" (which is a stupid label to assign to yourself to begin with) was something no one desired to be known as, and for a long time video games was something that was enjoyed predominantly by men. It still is, to some extent today, though women have made a pretty big splash in the video game market as they have in every other. So, in short, pay no attention to anyone who thinks its a big deal that girls play video games, they did before, there's just more now, and don't talk down to them it makes you just as petty as they are.
 

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Vault101 said:
Swny Nerdgasm said:
"I'm a nerd! I'm a dork! I'm a geek!" Great. We get it. Show us your brains, not your glasses.
brains is not a pre-requesite for being a geek..the way some fan-bases act should be proof enough :p
That's not the point I was trying to make, just because someone is a woman who plays video games it does not mean she's part of the gamer culture, look at how many actresses say, "Oh yeah I'm a huge geek, I love comic books and video games!" How many of them do you believe?
 

John Henneman

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Girls that play video games are more fun than girls, say, that are really into fashion. It'll make it more likely for me to want to hang out with you.

It doesn't make you more attractive until you get really good at them though, especially if you can beat me.

Caveat: in order for this to work, it kinda has to be console games, because this is the only scenario where we're likely to be in the same room. If you play WoW all the time then we'll probably never meet up irl, therefore the "attractiveness" rule is kinda moot.
 

John Henneman

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Girls that are good at video games are just attractive to guys who play them. Similarly, I play electric guitar, and while normally I can't stand a lot of female-singer pop songs, Orianthi is so good at electric guitar that it a) makes her music a lot better b) makes her WAY more attractive.
 

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Silly people, there are no girls in games, its all voice changers and little high pitched boys. Even the girls here are boys. And those girls you thought you saw in real life through that window that one time as you sat on your computer? They were also boys.

Infact, the whole world only has men, don't let those harem anime and porno movies trick you, that's all photoshop and CGI editing to make it look like there really are 'girls' out there in the scary world of real life. The truth of the matter is they simply don't exist.

Trust me, I've seen real life once or twice before, so I know what I'm talking about.
 

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museofdoom said:
Zarkov said:
And as a side note, (from what I've heard) the girls that really want to fit into the gamer community never end up being able to like a guy could because of their gender.

And you know what? That really pisses me off. I keep hearing about girls getting harassed on Xbox Live and steam from the first inkling that they might have boobs. It's seriously annoying considering I do know someone that likes to play console games but can't play online and socialize with other people due to their gender. It's really sad, and really immature.
^THIS. I honestly haven't renewed my Xbox live account in ages because it's almost not worth it. Guys will either hit on me shamelessly, or they're asses. I once got booted from a game of scavenge in Left 4 dead 2 because of my gender. My team was losing, and they instantly booted me. What. The. Hell. And I wasn't doing horribly either, I was contributing more than some of the other players. I dislike people sometimes.
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Yeah, I concur with Zarkov. It's not going to change unless girls start playing video games just as much as guys do. Luckily, there ARE decent people on Xbox live that make up for all the assholes and creeps. Heck, sometimes the jerks/creeps can be really entertaining to screw with. But honestly, it would be LOVELY to be able to play online without some person being like "d00d, are you like, a gay 12 year old? You're a girl? SUCK MY DICK MAKE ME A SAMMICH" *friend request.*
I'm not trying to be mean when I state this, but have you considered not using mic? You could still use headphones if you really want to listen to what they are saying but just message anybody that asked, that your mic is broken. I don't think you would have any problems then.
 

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I hear this a lot, as I study games design and theory at university. Women in the community either A) attention-seeking through their attitude or B) trying their hardest to blend in, so as to avoid objectification.

Side-note; I don't really like this attitude, to be honest. I once had another girl accuse me of being an "attention whore girl gamer" to my face. Her reasoning was no "real gamers" wore dresses or make-up. I just find the whole culture is screwed, as women feel the need to become androgynous online/in the gamer community to avoid sexual harassment and their opinion being ignored due to their gender.

I won't even get started on how many freshmen scoff at me as I walk by in a lecture hall, and ask me to make them a sandwich (right before they ask me to add them on Facebook).
 

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Simeon Ivanov said:
fleurdust said:
Simeon Ivanov said:
(I don't know a single girl who plays Diablo. They think the graphics suck -_-)
I do, my sister does and my mum does. In fact, I signed up for WoW's annual pass to get D3 for free. What girls do you know? o.o
Тhe kinds who play WoW and don't finish SKYRIM because "There's nothing to do" and "I don't like the graphics"
I'm a guys and I have always hated WOW graphics are shit. Honestly it is 2011 and they are making games like that? At least minecraft has the option with mods to change the graphics, but damn I can't stand that ps1 graphics. Also I hate mmo/WOW for what it does to a persons social life
 

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museofdoom said:
Yeah, I concur with Zarkov. It's not going to change unless girls start playing video games just as much as guys do. Luckily, there ARE decent people on Xbox live that make up for all the assholes and creeps. Heck, sometimes the jerks/creeps can be really entertaining to screw with. But honestly, it would be LOVELY to be able to play online without some person being like "d00d, are you like, a gay 12 year old? You're a girl? SUCK MY DICK MAKE ME A SAMMICH" *friend request.*
WaitwaitwaitiwaitWAIT!

You get guys being all like "lol sexism jokes R teh funnehz!" saying make me a sandwich/blow me and then they friend request you? I mean I kind of get the ones that make a futile attempt to flirt, and then do it (still sad, though) but really?

I love how totally not pathetic people are. ¬_¬

In any case, I do have the one totally awesome lady friend who is also a gamer, and she handles herself very well online. Mostly because people who are creepers/assholes tend to collapse with a case of bullet through head syndrome, or will be messed with to the extreme. It's extraordinarily entertaining to watch.
 

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Zyntoxic said:
Often with women in the gaming community there are two extreame sides, on the one side you have the women flaunting their gender using it to get an extra edge, so to speak, and on the other side you have the women yelling at the imposters.

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but I'm going to agree on the point that the really bad flaunters can in several cases be harmful for other women in the community, but not as harmful as the aggressive attitude some (both men and women) in the gaming community have that assumes women, for often pretty silly reasons, are these horrible flaunters.
This, so much. I find myself now worried to actually mention online I'm a girl lest someone immediately assume I'm just there to get the loot.
 

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volX said:
boandpop said:
I won't even get started on how many freshmen scoff at me as I walk by in a lecture hall, and ask me to make them a sandwich (right before they ask me to add them on Facebook).
And you let them get away with that? I hope not.

Also a suggestion:
Why doesnt everybody just lay down the "title" of gamer and return to beeing normal boys and girls that also happen to play games? Absolutely no reason to make yourself a "class" of your own, especially when its just negatively connoted.
Not at all. I think I actually scared the guy, as he avoids eye contact with me whenever I see him in a lecture. A lot of my males friends try to protect myself and a few other friends, as some guys (very few) neglect to learn social graces. Saying it on the Internet made them funny to their friends, not so much in real life.
 

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boandpop said:
I won't even get started on how many freshmen scoff at me as I walk by in a lecture hall, and ask me to make them a sandwich (right before they ask me to add them on Facebook).
Aw, it's like being in kindergarten again -- boys kicking the girls in the shins because they like them.

And while I do like your two groups theory, there are still quite a few of us that fall in neither. Seriously, I never proclaimed myself female to earn extra loot, but I was never harassed or objectified in game -- maybe I got lucky.
 

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I see your point but being a man this issue has bigger problems that attention seekers..

The stupid guys (or possibly girls) online who think that as there is a girl on the same game as them that THIS and this alone is the only chance they will get with the girl of their dreams and continue to pursue this with gifts and friend requests that a serial stalker would be proud of..

Really, no-one needs to try that hard, its bad for you and shouldn't be allowed..

Really, there is plenty of poon out there with your name all over it, it just doesn't manifest itself in WOW, star-craft or on the xbox..
 

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I don't know, maybe some girl gamers are just "coming outta the closet" and aren't ashamed about being gamers any longer.

Which would be a good thing.