Give me a topic and your position and I will argue with you.

Anomaly001

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Saladfork said:
Anomaly001 said:
Knowledge is not justified, true belief.
First off, howdy. Always nice to see new escapist...ists.

Secondly...

Your example appears to ignore your third point; that knowledge requires 'logical justification to believe the proposition'. Your premises and conclusion are logical (if random), true, but knowledge is built on knowledge. Adam is assuming John owns the car seemingly without any reason at all, so he appears to have no justification for doing so.

I also think you've left out an essential tidbit in the definition of knowledge, that being that belief cannot become knowledge unless it's been proven. Otherwise Adam could say that he knows John owns a car after thinking about John and this one car he said looked nice once (and after drinking heavily) and be right about it if he thought it was true.

Until Adam sees proof of ownership, he does not know that John owns the car.

Of course, for many things, it is impossible to prove beyond doubt certain ideas, which is why most scientific explanations for things remain theories instead of theorems.

Good job on that one, took me awhile to think of a decent argument.

Not a bad refutation. Unfortunately incorrect (knowledge can't be built on knowledge, as we are born knowing nothing, and therefore could never come to know anything with no knowledge to begin with; also, you're conflating proof with justification, as the proof involved can take the form of logical justification), but still, I'm impressed. Have you, by any chance, considered taking a degree in philosophy? I've been marking papers recently, and this is at least as smart a counter-argument as some of the best I saw in second year university classes.

Well done, sir. You have given me an excellent introduction to this board.
 

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I really wish they still made vanilla coke)
They still do. I can buy it in my local convenience store here.

OT: The Escapist is a good website, and the mods are all incredibly good looking, and intelligent.
 

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yman15 said:
You can understand and write in English
In fact, I can not. I type in everything French and is powered by Google to translate before posting.

ShadowDude112 said:
Schools (in the U.S. as far as I know) don't teach us that the U.S. did have a big Nazi party during the Holocaust and we only came into the war to save the day due to the genocide but really it was because Germany declared war on us. I think they don't teach us this because they don't want their own country to look bad and want students to think we were doing no wrong during that time period. Your thoughts?
You are right about what they do but not why they do it. You see, there is much to remember about World War 2, rather than to expect a grade schooler to remember for an exam. They spend on non-significant bits as what not to do with America, especially in the name of saving valuable space in the brain of young America that can be used instead to determine how to tea bag.

holy_secret said:
If doctors are so smart, why are there so many of them?
Doctors want you to think they are very intelligent, so that you do not realize they are in fact the silverback gorillas mutant. This is also why they wear labcoat, they are quite slimming and you do not notice intuition.

Pinstar said:
This Statement is a Lie.
Si Google translate n'a pas été déconnecté dès maintenant je donnerais une saisine verbale en ce moment. Je vais juste avoir à régler pour vous ne pas être capable de me comprendre.

... Probablement.

Dango said:
I believe that this:
Is a bad song.
Taken on its own, you might think that the song is bad, but when you actually play Sonic R (like I did), the sheer horror of its' awfulness overwhelms you to the point where the least terrible part of it, the music, actually seems pretty good.

TriGGeR_HaPPy said:
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
I remember the first time I decided to be so far as do look more like. I was with my friends, you see, and....
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Come to think of it, that's probably why they don't hang out with me anymore.
 

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Should the province of Alberta seperate from the rest of Canada if their is no longer any economic gain to being in the federation?
 

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Saladfork said:
TriGGeR_HaPPy said:
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
I remember the first time I decided to be so far as do look more like. I was with my friends, you see, and....
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Come to think of it, that's probably why they don't hang out with me anymore.
Your friends don't hang out with you anymore because of that?
Pfft.
I say that when one really been far even as decided, it is then that he has really been far to use even go want to do look more like.
 

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I am an Agnostic Theist. (Look up what that means yourself, I'm not helping you argue against me.)

Present an argument that disproves God to my satisfaction.
 

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I have a gun pointed at your head.

It's my personal opinion that I'm not going to shoot you.

Argue your way out of that one, smart guy *cocks gun* Go on, make my day.
 

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Tucker154 said:
This thread is of people creating statements for the OP's(who is a robot vampire zombie ninja from space.) twin brother to argue against.
Actually this thread was originally a poll asking people whether they preferred waffle or pancakes (waffles are clearly superior, by the way). It was changed by the OP halfway through when his amnesia wore off and he learned that he was actually a tiger shark all along.

He then died of a combination of dehydration and a fork to the brain.

Al-Bundy-da-G said:
That is a 18 day old boiled duck fetus. LOOK AT IT. Now go try one.
I'll have to eat one before I make a decision.
Preferably with my eyes closed.

Samuel Henson said:
Nyan Cat is the worst meme ever, you dare disagree?
Yo dawg, I herd u liek mudkipz so I put some Rick Astley in your Chuck Norris so you can close window while you facepalm.

Jegsimmons said:
It's my belief to believe i have beliefs.


well.....waiting OP.
You believe to believe that you have beliefs.
*I* believe that you believe that every belief you've ever had was actually implanted into your brain by a garden gnome that comes to life at night and is surprisingly proficient at subliminal messaging.
I have a Hydreigon so I am clearly right.
 

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Your arguing opinions, and since I won't change my opinion or you won't, its quite obvious that no one can be a victor in a arguement of subjectivity, TAKE THAT!
 

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ToastiestZombie said:
You know people can just say obvious facts and easily beat you?

1)Jesus was real!
2)Murder is a better crime than rape
3)If CoD wasn't popular there wouldn't be any hate
What on earth do you mean by "better"?
 

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It's okay for your friend to constantly treat you like crap, because you sang Can You Feel the Love Tonight together on one magical evening and then one day you exchanged clothes on a limo bus and it was funny. Yep, those two events make it ALLLLL better.

(No seriously, this actually happens and I need to something to say to the friends that's getting abused to hopefully knock some sense into her once and for all)
 

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Saladfork said:
Spencer Taylor said:
NightHawk21 said:
OP you are a human in the strictest biological sense of the word. I win.
I mentioned before that Krofdalas, the OP, was my evil twin, but I may have neglected to mention that he was also a robot vampire zombie ninja.
From space.
It should be noted that your evil twin being a vampire is/was at one point a human and still is in the strictest biological sense.
 

Zeraki

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This. Sentence. Is. False.

[sub][sub]don't think about it, don't think about it, don't think about it[/sub][/sub]
 

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Saladfork said:
sumanoskae said:
The world and all that it encompasses have no intrinsic, objective value. The only value that exists is purely subjective. Humans(And maybe other animals) invented the very idea of "Value".
There is one thing that has objective value: Human life. Everybody values their lives, and value of things like food and water derive from value of life.
Not true, objectivity is undeniable fact, as in it is literally impossible for anyone thinking clearly and acting honestly to argue against it.

1: If I asked what made human life valuable, what would you say?.

2: Not everyone does, many people such as criminals, psychopaths, manic depressives, politicians, Michael Atkinson, etc, don't place any inherent value on human life.

If everyone just agrees on something, that doesn't make it an objective fact, it's just united subjectivity, many different perspectives that happen to agree.

Humans are wired to survive, so of course they FEEL that they're life is important, but that doesn't mean that that viewpoint makes any kind of sense, that they can present undeniable evidence that life not only can be but SHOULD be preserved.

Fire is hot, that's a fact, regardless of who you are or what you think, fire will still cause you to ignite. How would you argue an exclusively human concern to an entity that wasn't human?, how would you ascertain that their argument was inferior to your own?.