Go Back To WoW

[Jonathan Wingo]

Fanboys in other fields? In science, you can definitely have fanboys like you see in System Wars. Are you into single-cell electrophysiology or functional brain imaging? Are you into math or physics? Psychologists vs. physiologists? I've met all types that "know" that they are better than their nemesis.

I had a chemistry teacher once that absolutely hated psychology. She would argue all day that it's not a real science.

 

[Banter]

All I really have to say on this is that in my experience most skiers and snowboarders DO hate each other as much as the average PS3/Xbox fanboy hates each other.

farmville is not in the same genre and will by most not even be considered a 'real' game. not to mention it is much less known than world of warcraft.

I'd say farmville ticks all the boxes of a 'real' game, and also on your saying it is much less known, it has over 82 million monthly active users worldwide whereas WoW has something over 11 million.

Which means that there are more people who work on a farmville farm than literally work in the USA.

 

[ravensshade]

Coming on here, talking all over our Escapist. Go back to IGN!

As an actual WoW player, if I was told to go back to WoW, I probably would go back to WoW :3

what would you be doing anywhere else but WoW as a WoW player?

anyway i've hardly seen that phrase but then the only paid mmo's i've played were aion/CO and STO

 

[Andarn]

Thing is that in real life if you call someone ****** because you like different colour than him things might get ugly. When you are child you dont mind that. As an adult (or even teen) in real life you will find (easy way or hard way) that "ignore" button doesn´t exist and insulting people over trivial matter can get you more problems than the isnult is worth (contrary to online things where you get flaming posts on forums and occasional whispers, max 3 day ban)

Nice article btw.

 

[Sonic Doctor]

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I guess it is because the bright colors or the cartoon feel I get from it, but I couldn't get into WoW. I am a fan of LotRO, yes it has color but if feels rather toned down compared to WoW, and that is what I like about it. Also, comparing with WoW and what I have heard other people explain about other MMOs, LotRO has a lot more storage for items than any other. I heard from People playing other MMOs that players get 30 on person storage to to start out. LotRO of course starts people off with 5 packs with 15 slots each, and then you get a vault in large towns that store 30 and you can buy more vault space as you level up. Also when you buy a house you get a storage container with it too. So I have well over 100 slots to store stuff, though I'm a pack rat and still run out of space. I have the stupid tendency to think, hmm maybe I will need that later.

Now I would say that the one thing that MMOs need to work on is single player aspect. I'm not a very social person, so I'm the person that is fighting off people that are jumping around me asking me to join their fellowship or kinship. Turbine has been working some single player aspects into LotRO by letting players on some of the major story quests, choose to do it solo, which is not as hard with nerfed enemies, rather than the fellowship route. They still have a lot of main story fellowship quests that need to have a solo version added.
For example, my level 32 hobbit guardian is in the North Downs and I am on the main story quest where I have to save Dori the Dwarf from the Dourhand Dwarfs. I take the quest and head for the Dourhand fortress, then I waltz in and get annihilated by two level 34 elite Dourhands, that have over 4000 health each(I have only a little over 2000 health.) When I took the quest I guess I hadn't noticed that it was a fellowship quest. The reason I guess the Turbine hasn't given a solo option for it is because it isn't an instance quest. So, I guess I will just have to grind away and level up past level 42 or higher then continue with the main story.
I don't really care a whole lot about side quests unless I get something useful for it. I care about story. So I think it would be good for future MMOs and current ones, to make a choice that allows people to do all main story quests solo.
I'm not going stoop that low again and fellowship up with people to complete something. The two times I did do that, the people weren't very helpful, while I fought and died, they looted bodies. When you aren't in a fellowship, whoever places the first hit on an enemy gets all the loot from that enemy, but the thing I hate about being in a fellowship is the loot division system, it doesn't matter who hit the enemy first or killed it, you always have the stupid prompt for each item of loot, where it asks the players, do you want to pass the item to the other player or do you want to roll for it. The whole rolling for it thing is stupid, especially when you are the only one that attacked and killed the enemy. The reason I didn't like it is that 9 times out of 10, I wouldn't get the piece of loot. Each time I was in a fellowship, the only loot I got was worthless crap that couldn't be sold for anything more than a couple or three coppers.

I would say that the whole playing with other people thing is one of the main reasons why some people don't like MMOs. Some people play the game for story, but they can't complete it because the game forces them to interact with other players. As stated before, in my experience, there aren't that many people that are helpful allies.

I agree with you on the whole storage thing. That's been a huge problem people like me have in WoW, and when we ask blizzard for more bag slots in the bank, they say "We'll give you bags with 2 more slots in them." when we really need about 10 more bags to store the billions of things we get from holiday events and other world events.

On your thing about single player, I encourage you to look into Star Wars the Old Republic when it comes out. It has been designed to be played almost entirely alone, or with one or 2 friends if you have them. Only the end game content(which no one knows anything about yet) will have multi-player requirements. The rest of the game can be done by yourself. You should probably look into it.

I actually have been looking at Star Wars the Old Republic. I can't wait to see how it turns out. I am a big fan of the KOTOR games. The first one was awesome, and the second one incredibly improved the customization and item upgradablity. The second one would have ranked higher in my book, except that I felt they the creators really botched the ending. I would have told them, "A little less talky talky and a lot more action packed graphical scenes to show things." The first one had classic Star Wars action packed endings.

 

[invisiblemoose]

Dunno about you, but I'd say prejudice by fanboys towards gender, sexuality and race would drive me up the wall greater than telling someone to play a different game.

 

[bjj hero]

Do skiers and snow boarders hate each other with the same fervor as Xbox and PS3 fans?

Yes. Possibly more so.

Goddamn skiers, taking up the entire frickin' slope. If you're going to go back and forth like that, at least let people pass you instead of cutting in front of them...RANT

Fantards really are everywhere.
You have not seen fan boys until you get a bunch of arse holes who all do different martial arts in the same room.

This "works", thats "not practical", such and such is "just a sport"...

Having said that these people tend to be the ones who've been doing it for 2 months and are over weight. Yes, we know, its all muscle... If you train for any length of time you take the bits of everything that work for you and throw out the rest. It's more important how you train and who with than what "style".

Similar to gaming really. Play the genres and games you like and don't bother with games you don't. All that matters is that everyones having fun. Easy.

 

[13752]

oi! Shamus! Your figures prove nothing!

Go take your figures, find out the MMO's player population at that moment in time and find it as a percentage!

You will not blind me with these factless numbers!

 

[Mr.Pandah]

Go back to WoW? Don't mind if I do.

Same response from me.

As for the actual article, no need to get your panties in a bunch if someone says go back to WoW. In many areas, its a far superior game compared to many other MMOs. I don't see how it is an insult to WoW itself though. Its saying that WoW does it better, and why bother playing that other crappy MMO? Not really understanding the logic behind this one.

You really came off as a professional troll in this one to be honest.

 

[digotw]

I'm going to totally misinterpret the fact that City of Heroes wasn't in that list and say it's because the community is awesome as a whole and not only accepts criticism, it offers it constantly (not only that, but last I was there, the devs went out of their way to respond to and thank critique). But that's off-topic and possibly nostalgic.

Then again, since I'm also a WoW player (albeit one who never graces the forums), I have to admit never having run into this, but the article conclusion sounds logical.

Also pretty likely the City of Heroes figures don't support his argument, so he left them out.

 

[F8L Fool]

The most disturbing thing is that you didn't even search the biggest fansites of those games. For example, the game Aion is fervently discussed on the site "Aion Source" as much if not more than the official Aion forums. Same can be said of similar MMO fansites on your list, all the way down to random obscure websites that discuss gaming in general, rather than the MMO genre in particular.

I too am fed up with the saying. I played WoW for 3 years, but I also played many other MMO's as well such as L2, EQ1, AoC, Aion, LotR, UO, and various other obscure MMO's and MUD's that the vast majority of players have never even heard of.

People seem to think that certain ideas and mechanics originated in WoW, just because they are found in WoW. The people that are suggesting similar ideas could've experienced that feature in a game that predates WoW and was actually borrowed from that game, yet they immediately relate it to WoW.

It's just a sad state that we MMO fans find ourselves in right now.

 

[NeutralDrow]

I'm going to totally misinterpret the fact that City of Heroes wasn't in that list and say it's because the community is awesome as a whole and not only accepts criticism, it offers it constantly (not only that, but last I was there, the devs went out of their way to respond to and thank critique). But that's off-topic and possibly nostalgic.

Then again, since I'm also a WoW player (albeit one who never graces the forums), I have to admit never having run into this, but the article conclusion sounds logical.

Also pretty likely the City of Heroes figures don't support his argument, so he left them out.

...that was more-or-less exactly what I said.

 

[camazotz]

I don't knjow about forum posts, but I think some of this comes from a reverse--and very weird!--issue that strikes me as "fanbois trolling in other games." Poor old Tabula Rasa had been out a few weeks when its general chat was effectively spam-killed by a handful of guys who spent their time bitching about every tiny issue and how it was either just like WoW or not enough like WoW. It was primarly aimed at trolling to get players who had, say, just bought and wanted to enjoy the game without reading a constant barrage of WoW love/Tab Ra hate going, and it certainly did that...I could only solve the issue by turning off general chat. So from that perspective, where many of the capitulations to the trolls were, in fact, "go back to WoW please," I can understand the problem.

Honestly, as a looooong time WoW player who feels that game has some playstyle and genre defining highlights that will affect the industry forever more, I can respect the problem people seem to run in to while playing other "less popular" MMOs in which a WoW fanboi comes onboard and basically starts trashing the game. I don't understand why they do it, other than for some malicious fun. These days, though, I am happy to say that I don't see any of that in DDO, the only other MMO I frequent anymore.

As for forum posts....well, I don't really like to hang out on forums much anymore except for Escapist....!!!! So I must plead ignorance on the matter, except that my guess has always been that the forum posters on MMO sites always seem to be disgruntled or have a chip on their shoulder for some reason....makes for terribly uninteresting reading, either way....

 

[Nfritzappa]

Go back to Dungeons and Dragons.


Wait wut

 

[Jay Miller]

If you ever see "(insert latest blockbuster game here) Is SOOOOOO much better than (insert latest challenger to latest blockbuster here)" feel free to scream at the idiot until he goes back to (insert latest blockbuster game here).

 

[likalaruku]

I tried that for the "Runes of Magic" forum & got 196 "Go back to Wow." I guess the low count is because WoW & RoM are supposed to be very similar.

 

[Aurgelmir]

Yeah I have seen this, and its mostly in discussions where the person that utter the words have no better argument for why a change isn't good.

I myself have played a lot of MMOs, ot indirectly played them through my flat-mates, and my view on MMOs is that WoW is of a better quality than most other MMOs out there. So once you say "go back to WoW" you are saying "My game sucks, so you should probably play the better game WoW. I dont like wow myself, but I bet you would."

Sure no fanboy would admitt their game sucks, but by saying "go back to WoW" you are basically stating that WoW is better than your game.

Sure its easy to hate the market leader, but usually they became big because they were doing things right. *Is reminded of the South Park episode about Hardbucks Coffee*

So when MMOs are released that have less quality than what WoW had at release, you are bound to get some people disapointed.

 

[Excludos]

It should probably be noted that if you use the same search criteria you used, but swap out the site with this one (as in: "go back to wow" site:http://www.escapistmagazine.com), you actually get 1,670 hits. So no, I don't think its a very accurate description on how often it is used

 

[w00tage]

I guess it is because the bright colors or the cartoon feel I get from it, but I couldn't get into WoW. I am a fan of LotRO, yes it has color but if feels rather toned down compared to WoW, and that is what I like about it. Also, comparing with WoW and what I have heard other people explain about other MMOs, LotRO has a lot more storage for items than any other. I heard from People playing other MMOs that players get 30 on person storage to to start out. LotRO of course starts people off with 5 packs with 15 slots each, and then you get a vault in large towns that store 30 and you can buy more vault space as you level up. Also when you buy a house you get a storage container with it too. So I have well over 100 slots to store stuff, though I'm a pack rat and still run out of space.

If you like storage space, try EQ2. You fill inventory, bank and chest slots with boxes and bags, the largest of which holds 38? items. So you can be carting around hundreds of items on your person and have thousands total.

I'll think about it, but I really don't have the time anymore or the money to try new games. If there is a free-trial I guess I could check it out. But since I've put so much work into LotRO, I think I will stick with it for now.

No worries, enjoy LOTRO

 

[Addendum_Forthcoming]

Do skiers and snow boarders hate each other with the same fervor as Xbox and PS3 fans?

Yes. Possibly more so.

Goddamn skiers, taking up the entire frickin' slope. If you're going to go back and forth like that, at least let people pass you instead of cutting in front of them...RANT

Kinda funny remark given that skiers are FASTER because of the reduced friction to the snow because of the (usually) reduced surface area of the skis in comparison to snowboards.