Godzilla vs. Kong thoughts and opinions?

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I FUCKING LOVE THIS MOVIE! It's now one of my favorite monster bash movies! As far as the Legendary Films ranking goes it's:

  1. Godzilla vs. Kong
  2. King of the Monsters
  3. Skull Island
  4. Godzilla (2014)
I am not saying anything else. These movies get better each time a new one comes out.
 

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I FUCKING LOVE THIS MOVIE! It's now one of my favorite monster bash movies! As far as the Legendary Films ranking goes it's:

  1. Godzilla vs. Kong
  2. King of the Monsters
  3. Skull Island
  4. Godzilla (2014)
I am not saying anything else. These movies get better each time a new one comes out.
I've only seen KotM, but would you say this increase in quality, is directly related the amount of time the monsters are on screen bashing shit?
 

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I've only seen KotM, but would you say this increase in quality, is directly related the amount of time the monsters are on screen bashing shit?
Also, you should really watch Skull Island. It's good. Reeaaalll goooodddd. G (2014) is too boring and the human characters are super boring. Spends too much going for the Jaws effect of suspense building. The one thing the sequels have is that the human characters are decent or somewhat entertaining, but they never take over the film or are too obnoxious. But in G vs. K, it's mostly about the monsters. As it should be.
 

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Did you see the name "Godzilla vs. King Kong" and got half a chub?

If so, you should go see it

The movie has the same kind of flaws as the others (especially the Godzilla ones) where they focus a lot more on the squishy humans than you'd want them to but it's still a very good movie that is well worth the time if it's your kind of movie. I did get to see it in the theater, which probably helps as it gave it a great sense of scale. Overall I'm happy enough with the movie.
 
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I FUCKING LOVE IT!

It best of the MonsterVerse movie to me. Best fights, tied with Skull Island as having the best character. Kong and Godzilla are shown at their best here. Mechagodzilla is great but I agree with johnny Novgorod that the final fight was a bit anticlimactic, too short for me. My biggest issue is the Villains are underdeveloped. I like their motivations are more complex and more than just money. Wanting Humans to be the apex predator again but they do nothing meaningful or interesting with it. It's decent motivation is just not developed.

Last Jedi flashbacks: The movie divides the human element in two: those escorting Kong as part of the main plot (Skarsgard, Hall, token little girl acting as liaison to Kong), which overall is the fun, actually relevant part of the movie... and then the girl from Stranger Things and two other desperately unfunny comic relief types, going on a totally irrelevant sidequest where they infiltrate a bunch of bases, trying to figure out what an obviously evil company is up to. This is Canto Bight territory. It's bad enough their dialogue is purely expository and desperately unfunny, and that they're as far removed from Kong and Godzilla as possible, or even the other characters from the movie - but they also end up not mattering at all to the overall plot. Their big contribution to the story is emptying a flask on a keyboard (a genius move I remember from a Pete & Pete episode), which distracts Mechagodzilla for a crucial nanosecond during the final battle. And that's it. Half the movie, about 55 minutes, is wasted on a non-event.
I like that plotline, also it wasn't pointless because it was an explanation and build-up on Mechagodzilla and what's really going on but I said before the villains are underdeveloped so it can feel like a weak pay off to that plotline.
 
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Eh, I had fun with it. There's literally no meat to the villains though and the final act of the movie is as predictable as they come. Great action though, really just a fun movie to turn your brain off for a couple hours and watch big monsters beat the shit out of each other. I'm good with that.
 
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There's dumb fun, and there's just dumb shit. The movie is kinda half and half. Everything with Millie Bobby Brown and her two criminally unfunny friends was hot garbage. Everything with Kong and Godzilla, pretty great. It was giving me flashbacks to the MJ and Miles sections in Spider-man PS4, just everything you could ever want, some of the best we've ever seen spotted with flecks of diarrhea.

I was very confused though, I watched Kong Skull Island and yet it feels like I missed an entire movie in between that and this. The whole "Hollow Earth" thing and the hierarchy of the titans seemed to be thrown aside and brought back in whenever they wanted.
 

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I FUCKING LOVE IT!

It best of the MonsterVerse movie to me. Best fights, tied with Skull Island as having the best character. Kong and Godzilla are shown at their best here. Mechagodzilla is great but I agree with johnny Novgorod that the final fight was a bit anticlimactic, too short for me. My biggest issue is the Villains are underdeveloped. I like their motivations are more complex and more than just money. Wanting Humans to be the apex predator again but they do nothing meaningful or interesting with it. It's decent motivation is just not developed.


I like that plotline, also it wasn't pointless because it was an explanation and build-up on Mechagodzilla and what's really going on but I said before the villains are underdeveloped so it can feel like a weak pay off to that plotline.
I thought the girl from Stranger Things half of the plot was unfunny, boring and pointless. It's unfunny for painfully obvious reasons, and it's boring that we waste half a movie about Kong and Godzilla fighting on three people who barely factor into the overall plot. We don't need a 50 minute buildup for anything you think they contributed to the experience.
 

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Why is it that aircraft in these kind of movies always fly within literal arms reach of the big monsters, even though they have missiles with ranges in the dozen of kilometers?

I mean, I know why, getting blaster from something so far away you can't even see it, or passing by so fast it's blink and you missed it, isn't very cinematic. Still kind of dumb tho.
her two criminally unfunny friends was hot garbage.
Those two gave me some Bayformer comedic relief vibes. Tho of course, if it were Bay directing, they'd also be way more hyper, racist stereotypes and scream a lot more.
 

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Why is it that aircraft in these kind of movies always fly within literal arms reach of the big monsters, even though they have missiles with ranges in the dozen of kilometers?
At one point it seemed like they were purposely suicide bombing Godzilla

I mean, I know why, getting blaster from something so far away you can't even see it, or passing by so fast it's blink and you missed it, isn't very cinematic. Still kind of dumb tho.
Those two gave me some Bayformer comedic relief vibes. Tho of course, if it were Bay directing, they'd also be way more hyper, racist stereotypes and scream a lot more.
This wasn't Michael Bay levels but I can understand people not like that plot but I did chuckle a few times. my biggest problem with it was less to do with the jokes but how unbelievably easy it was to sneak into this facility. [i/spoiler]
 

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Probably has the best cinematography of the monsterverse so far, but the pacing was enough to put me to sleep. Twice. Not sure of the reasoning for the side plot of the hack investigation squad but it seems most people, myself included, thought it to be pretty pointless.


Also, I’d have to rewatch the section before the finale, but I’m wondering why MechaGodzilla was even a threat in the first place, when revived Kong ultimately made such quick work of him. The hollow earth thing was kinda intriguing, but that should’ve been the extent of anything involving humans in the plot line. These are monster movies, and this one in particular strictly relates to the monster trio, regardless of how the mech one came to be.

Humans, please stay out of the way next time as much as possible. Also, if there’s going to be a cliche heartwarming monster/kid dynamic, try it with Godzilla next time. Not only would it be funnier, but his colder heart could use some warming.
 
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I FUCKING LOVE IT!

It best of the MonsterVerse movie to me. Best fights, tied with Skull Island as having the best character. Kong and Godzilla are shown at their best here. Mechagodzilla is great but I agree with johnny Novgorod that the final fight was a bit anticlimactic, too short for me. My biggest issue is the Villains are underdeveloped. I like their motivations are more complex and more than just money. Wanting Humans to be the apex predator again but they do nothing meaningful or interesting with it. It's decent motivation is just not developed.


I like that plotline, also it wasn't pointless because it was an explanation and build-up on Mechagodzilla and what's really going on but I said before the villains are underdeveloped so it can feel like a weak pay off to that plotline.

The fact that humans have to make a mechagodzilla only proves we have no business being Apex predator, which in itself implies ill intentions to everything below us. Godzilla is needed to keep our dumbasses in check.
 

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The fact that humans have to make a mechagodzilla only proves we have no business being Apex predator, which in itself implies ill intentions to everything below us. Godzilla is needed to keep our dumbasses in check.
....why? Why does using our one genuine talent, our intelligence, and using it to make a device to give us a fighting chance on a playing field that otherwise is ruled entirely by brute force and bulk, automatically make us unfit? It's basically just making a tool for us to wield, and that was something that was apparently ok for Kong to go do. "Hmm, he's kicking my ass, I should go get myself an advantage...oh look! Weapon!"

So I'm confused by the logic of your statement in this context. I would say, that after only a handful of years of publicly knowing about these creatures, that humanity was able to 1. Develop technology to MIND CONTROL them, and 2. Replicate the most powerful specimen we'd seen into a giant robot, and control it to do our bidding, as evidence humans DO have business as Apex predator. That we aren't just helpless little apes, running around in terror under the feet of Titans. That we can make our OWN titans, and meet them on equal footing, and declare our own status as a being of this planet. That just because they are the biggest boy, doesn't automatically make them in charge. Now, the motivations of the people making the mech is a different story, but the simple fact that humanity got together and said "ok let's science our way into an even position with these big boys" speaks volumes to the power of humanity as a whole. We aren't strong by ourselves, but we are a Titan together. And any giant monster that thinks they can just stomp all over us and face no repercussions, better watch out, because we might make another Mecha and take you down. *turns off the Pacific Rim music and finishes his cancelling the apocalypse speech*
 
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....why? Why does using our one genuine talent, our intelligence, and using it to make a device to give us a fighting chance on a playing field that otherwise is ruled entirely by brute force and bulk, automatically make us unfit? It's basically just making a tool for us to wield, and that was something that was apparently ok for Kong to go do. "Hmm, he's kicking my ass, I should go get myself an advantage...oh look! Weapon!"

So I'm confused by the logic of your statement in this context. I would say, that after only a handful of years of publicly knowing about these creatures, that humanity was able to 1. Develop technology to MIND CONTROL them, and 2. Replicate the most powerful specimen we'd seen into a giant robot, and control it to do our bidding, as evidence humans DO have business as Apex predator. That we aren't just helpless little apes, running around in terror under the feet of Titans. That we can make our OWN titans, and meet them on equal footing, and declare our own status as a being of this planet. That just because they are the biggest boy, doesn't automatically make them in charge. Now, the motivations of the people making the mech is a different story, but the simple fact that humanity got together and said "ok let's science our way into an even position with these big boys" speaks volumes to the power of humanity as a whole. We aren't strong by ourselves, but we are a Titan together. And any giant monster that thinks they can just stomp all over us and face no repercussions, better watch out, because we might make another Mecha and take you down. *turns off the Pacific Rim music and finishes his cancelling the apocalypse speech*
Because I had to...

 
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The fact that humans have to make a mechagodzilla only proves we have no business being Apex predator, which in itself implies ill intentions to everything below us. Godzilla is needed to keep our dumbasses in check.
Yeah, the problem with your speech is that it's the equivalent of this:

For mankind's (our) own good my ass. It was bull crap in Wind Of Amnesia, and it's bull crap under this circumstance as well.
 

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....why? Why does using our one genuine talent, our intelligence, and using it to make a device to give us a fighting chance on a playing field that otherwise is ruled entirely by brute force and bulk, automatically make us unfit? It's basically just making a tool for us to wield, and that was something that was apparently ok for Kong to go do. "Hmm, he's kicking my ass, I should go get myself an advantage...oh look! Weapon!"

So I'm confused by the logic of your statement in this context. I would say, that after only a handful of years of publicly knowing about these creatures, that humanity was able to 1. Develop technology to MIND CONTROL them, and 2. Replicate the most powerful specimen we'd seen into a giant robot, and control it to do our bidding, as evidence humans DO have business as Apex predator. That we aren't just helpless little apes, running around in terror under the feet of Titans. That we can make our OWN titans, and meet them on equal footing, and declare our own status as a being of this planet. That just because they are the biggest boy, doesn't automatically make them in charge. Now, the motivations of the people making the mech is a different story, but the simple fact that humanity got together and said "ok let's science our way into an even position with these big boys" speaks volumes to the power of humanity as a whole. We aren't strong by ourselves, but we are a Titan together. And any giant monster that thinks they can just stomp all over us and face no repercussions, better watch out, because we might make another Mecha and take you down. *turns off the Pacific Rim music and finishes his cancelling the apocalypse speech*

Some interesting tidbits on the hidden origins of Godzilla.

The nutshell reason he “surfaced” in the first place was because our warring asses weren’t satisfied with mere isolated destruction through conventional weaponry; nope, we had to drop bloody nukes on our own species, because for some reason we’ve been designed to have such wide cultural variances that we can’t get along well enough without wanting to destroy each other’s shit now and then.

In the movie, we arrogantly created an artificial creature, to essentially destroy the other one that exists solely as a stop block to our own destruction. Godzilla might not care about humanity, but he does care about us not fucking up our only planet and whatever life it hosts. It also kinda speaks for itself that the creator of the bomb which “created” Godzilla ultimately regretted it.

But I guess, then we probably wouldn’t have had monster movies to argue about.
 

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So is this going to be the new trend now?
Like I said before, when you're pleasing fanboys and fangirls too much; they want "more" no matter how much they get what they want, or supposed to be satisfied. Spoiled assholes. I don't need more. I got exactly what I wanted.
 
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Like I said before, when you're pleasing Fanboys and fangirls too much, they want "more" no matter how much they get what they want or supposed to be satisfied. Spoiled assholes. I don't need more. I got exactly what I wanted.
Not to mention the way it’s performing breaking COVID screening records and all, it’s not like they wouldn’t have continued it like they’ve been doing anyways. I suppose the spoiled brats like to think they can somehow take credit for it now. Next, they’ll be demanding how they want the movie to be made, who stars, what music is used, how it ends, etc.

Director of *everything*: “Spoiled Assholes” will be in the credits
 
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