Green Lantern is Gay

[Jingle Fett]

So what does this mean for his wife, and his kids.

That's the thing about changing the sexuality and/or race of a established character, it creates ripple effects that force the change of other characters. I have no problem with gay characters I just wish they wouldn't change already established characters to add more "diversity". If you need to have a character to be gay create a new character, like Obsidian.

Also look at it from the reverse can you imagine if someone decided to change an established gay character and make them straight?

I agree. But see then they would have to make a brand new character and go through the effort of making him likable, which would be...hard.

 

[Some_weirdGuy]

I feel this is a bit of a cop out, 'obscure character I have never even heard of before now' does not equal 'iconic'.
Iconic is the main justice league group, or the secondary justice league characters that are still very well known (like the main heroes well-known sidekicks or super-friends)

 

[Signa]

He's a man who draws power from jewelry, what did you expect?

Be fair, there are lots of non-gay Green Lanterns who draw their power from jewelry. It just so happens that this one's weakness is wood.

(I am ashamed of myself.)

Don't be. That was the best comment on the first page (not feeling the need to dive deeper).

 

[Amnestic]

I was guessing him, can ya really blame me?

 

[pilouuuu]

Man, and I was sure it would be matter eater lad.


Was that a real comic?

Yes. Yes it is.

Is eating considered gay nowadays? I'd consider eating metal like a very manly thing to do...

I was not surprised by Green Lantern being gay. Maybe now they can make Catwoman bisexual?

 

[Baresark]

Wow, they really half assed this one. GL is more of an iconic job more than an iconic character. It would have been iconic if they made it Hal Jordan. I'm a little mad about the media frenzy over this. DC made a very vague statement and One Million Moms... or whatever they are called, did the rest. How lame and anti climactic this turned out to be.

 

[Kargathia]

Green Lantern is Gay.Nobody cares.Lets move on

On the contrary, that whole thing with One Million Moms (all twenty of 'em) getting out their soapbox was hilarious.

 

[ReiverCorrupter]

Believe me, I've tested some of them on it and they pretty much committed themselves to this view. Some of them even seem to think that even if it was genetic and that you had the power to alter someone's genome it would still somehow be impossible to change that person. It's pretty incoherent once you start examining it. (Not that everyone subscribes to this view, but the kind of people that are outspoken enough to try to "correct" people's value systems tend to propound absolutist views to support their points (go figure).)

That's not a very scientific view point and I wouldn't suggest using a small sample size as a way for you to prove what gay people think, even with that qualifier in there. You may not have intended it in this way but this has come off in such a way that you seem to be trying to use this as a way of supporting your view with evidence backing it up but also saying that it isn't either. It almost looks wishy washy. I'd recommend being clearer in what you type to actually show what you mean and not putting in your personal testing there unless it's actually been done as a proper study.

Lol. Yes, because clearly by saying that I "tested some of them on it" I meant that I had conducted an experiment with strict social-scientific methodology. [/sarcasm] (Also, lol at the phrase "strict social-scientific methodology".)

When I said that "I tested some of them on it" I meant that I engaged someone in a conversation in order to tease out the exact implications of their views. Hence I did not "test" the entire population of the escapist to see what percentage of them held these views, but instead I "tested" the views of particular individuals in order to draw out their presuppositions. If I had meant that I conducted a statistical analysis of the viewpoints of members of the escapist forums I would have said something completely different. But I do apologize as I can see how the term "test" can send people all aflutter with assumptions of scientific pretense on the part of the author. "Made them explicate their views" would have probably been a better phrase. I do hope that clears up any confusion you may have experienced, gentle reader.

Or perhaps you mean to reject all forms of commonsense inductive reasoning from personal experience as illegitimate or "wishy-washy"? If so, you should realize that this would likely cripple the day-to-day activities of your average human being, who relies heavily upon non-scientific inductive inferences from past experience. I was claiming that Bluecho should be prepared for some people to quote him and tell him that one cannot disapprove of homosexuality without being a bigot, not that this would definitely happen. And I'd say I have reasonable evidence to make this inference considering two people responded to some of my previous posts and argued that exact point. Notice that I did not say anything about the probability of it happening because I didn't have enough evidence to support any such probability. Just look at the last sentence of my post:

Let's see if the people in this thread return the favor...

So sure, if that's "wishy-washy" by your standards then I was making a wishy-washy claim. But I don't see anything wrong with "wishy-washy" in that sense, so perhaps someone who criticizes others for vague terminology shouldn't use phrases like "wishy-washy" in the process. ;P

 

[Ashcrexl]

so DC Comics didn't pussy out due to pressure from loud-mouthed conservatives?

that gives them roughly five times the integrity EA Games has.

 

[Winnosh]

He's the First Green Lantern I'd call that pretty Iconic to Comic book fans. He's the Green Lantern our parents grew up reading and that us other comic readers loved.

Yeah he's not Iconic to non comic fans... but that's the same of most characters

 

[Easton Dark]

Snip

Dude, Booster Gold? Booster Gold gets all the ladies of the future past, because he's fuckin' Booster Gold.

OT: I thought Aquaman...

 

[Amnestic]

Snip

Dude, Booster Gold? Booster Gold gets all the ladies of the future past, because he's fuckin' Booster Gold.

He's the greatest hero you've never heard of.

I love Booster Gold. I'm not really a big comic book consumer but I absolutely tore through his stuff and enjoyed pretty much all of it. I was mostly making a jab at how fab]ulous that picture makes him look.

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

He always seemed they gayest, to me. But then, I've never paid any attention to the Flash.

 

[Easton Dark]

Snip

Dude, Booster Gold? Booster Gold gets all the ladies of the future past, because he's fuckin' Booster Gold.

He's the greatest hero you've never heard of.

I love Booster Gold. I'm not really a big comic book consumer but I absolutely tore through his stuff and enjoyed pretty much all of it. I was mostly making a jab at how fab]ulous that picture makes him look.

I didn't like him before, you know, all the gloating and stuff. But then I watched The Greatest Story Never Told and wow, I liked him a lot more after that.

 

[likalaruku]

I see I'm not the only one who bet, my money was on Alfred.

I bet on The Joker, because the friend who told me never specified that it was a hero.

 

[ReiverCorrupter]

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I agree on this and do believe in either giving everyone domestic partnership or saying that marriage as it is covered in government is not the same one covered in any religion.

I do think however it depends on what sect of a religion you're in for whether or not a Catholic gay person should get married in a church or not. If someone is gay and religious and their sect supports them I think they should be able to get married in their church and the churches that don't want them getting married don't get a say as it's not their church.

Also, I'm sorry for my other reply to you since I think I may have fundamentally misunderstood some of the things you were saying and my reply is probably very confusing.

I generally agree with small one caveat: it's fine as long as the sects are autonomous, but in cases where they are subsections of a larger entity it gets a bit more complicated. (This probably isn't really even a caveat considering you seem to have implicitly acknowledged it with the statement "not their church".)

For instance, one particular Catholic diocese might decide to perform gay marriages such that the Vatican might try to make the Bishop in charge step down but the Bishop refuses. Who should the government favor? I'm not sure that anything like this has ever happened, but my intuition is that it would probably come down to who legally owned the Churches and resources used by the diocese. If it was the Catholic Church the government would probably rule that the Vatican has the final say over how people use their property, and that there's nothing stopping the members of the diocese from going off and forming its own Church. It would get even more complicated if the diocese was financially independent of the Vatican and used its own money to build its Churches, but the property of the diocese was licensed under the Catholic church.

But a lot of that just boils down to zoning laws and issues of ownership rather than religious freedom. So on the whole I agree: Churches and other religious organizations definitely do not have a say in what separate religious entities do.

(Oh, and I don't think there was any confusion on my part. I didn't assume that you belonged to any of my hypothetical groups and I was arguing against them, not you. I tend to argue in hypotheticals, which often gives people the mistaken impression that I'm committing them to a straw man position when I'm actually just trying to elucidate all the possible positions one might take in an argument. I'm certainly not assuming that you would want the government to rule in favor of the diocese in the example I just gave.)

 

[sunsetspawn]

I was pulling for Aquaman or Batman. Green Lantern was always up there in my list of likely candidates, but I just thought Aquaman, Batman, or even Flash might have been better. Still, it's DC's game.

To be fair, Aquaman is still pretty gay.

 

[zombiesinc]

"It's Green Lantern!"

"Oh wow, cool! You could've fooled me, what with Rya-"

"No, not that Green Lantern. The other Green Lantern."

"... oh."

 

[ResonanceSD]

Dear DC:

A) we don't care that much, if at all.

B) WE KNEW ALREADY -_-

C) Like it matters.

Escapists! Pick one.

"It's Green Lantern!"

"Oh wow, cool! You could've fooled me, what with Rya-"

"No, not that Green Lantern. The other Green Lantern."

"... oh."

I thought the exact same thing.