Guess the Hardware Specs for the New Consoles and Their Release Games!

[The Virgo]

First of all, in case you didn't know:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.337274-BOTH-New-Xbox-and-PS4-Will-Be-Shown-At-E3

Anyway, this is meant to be a fun thread, in other words, not serious. It'll probably turn into a console fanboy war, but since I'm a PC Elitist, I can't help fuel those arguments. Anyway, the thread is pretty simple: Guess what you think the system specs will be for the new Xbox and PlayStation 4. And while we're at it, let's also guess what their launch game lineup will look like.

Here's mine:

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New Xbox:

CPU - 3.4 GHz
GPU - 1.5 GB
RAM - 1 GB

Launch Lineup:

A Call of Duty game (probability: 100%)
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive (probability: 27%)
Grand Theft Auto 5 (probability: 40%)
One or more sports games (probability: 67%)
A new Hitman game (probability: 80% - They recently hired more people to work on another Hitman game other than the one IO is making right now. I have to find a link.)

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PlayStation 4:

CPU - 3.5 GHz
GPU - 1.5 GB
RAM - 1.5 GB

Launch Lineup:

One or more JRPGs (probability: 100%)
A Call of Duty game (probability: 100%, but only because the Xbox will have it)
A racing game (probability: 72%)
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive (probability: 46%)
Grand Theft Auto 5 (probability: 50%)
A new Hitman game (probability: 84%)

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So, those are my guesses. In case your wondering, those numbers and figures are all things I pulled out of the air, so don't go into too much discussion about anything. Except for Call of Duty. You KNOW it will be on day 1 for the new Xbox.

So, what are your guesses? The person whose guess is closet to the outcome will WIN A PRIZE! The prize is:

Spoiler: The Prize

NOTHING! What? Did you think I have the funds to reward someone's lucky guess with something physical? At least you can show your friends your post and say that, back then, you had the best guess about the new consoles on a random thread created by an Astrology fanatic.

So, happy guessing and have fun.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

Without going into things like # of CPU cores, generation of GPU and speed/type of RAM it's all worthless wank.

 

[The Virgo]

Without going into things like # of CPU cores, generation of GPU and speed/type of RAM it's all worthless wank.

This was never was meant to be anything of any seriousness anyway. I said so, specifically. It was meant to be something to pass the time of the bored forum users here and maybe even fuel discussion and debate about what the new consoles will be like. Who cares if it's worthless wank? It's the wee hours of Monday morning over here, which means that when I wake up I will have to deal with problems and work. Here's to signing off of the weekend with something not serious before having to go back to being serious.

That was all.

 

[The Virgo]

Blah blah, PlayStation fanboy spewing unreeling love for the playstation and trolling the PC, blah blah.

I said I wasn't going to really get involved, but I had to edit your post to make it short enough for people to read without getting trolled, which you obviously chose the PC as the target.

Yes, PCs require more upkeep, but that's part of joy, in a way! It's like back in the old days when you could actually work on your car yourself, unlike now where you have to take it to a dealer. Those hardships create a bond between the person and the machine. You know every part in her. That machine is yours and yours alone. It's not just one of one million other identical machines that rolled off the assembly line that all function the very same way. I love my PC, even though it's down because it got a virus. Why? Because it is mine.

Once it's back up and running, I will be able to enjoy the free indie games available (which consoles won't have) as well as big budget games, which include RTSes and simulators (which have never worked out right on a console) like the Total War games (on the RTS side) and play them on a 1600x900 monitor with the graphics on high (something the consoles can't do) and get 60 frames per second. And I can also make videos, write scripts ... even make mods for games.

Oh, and I got my PC built back in early November for around, minus the case, monitor and keyboard, which I already had, for around $600 or $700. And it can pretty much run anything I throw at it with reasonable results, except games like Crysis and Metro 2033, of course. And I got pretty much the low end stuff. Meaning that PC gaming isn't as expensive as some claim. And what do you mean a lack of longevity? The ATI 5970 is still a great videocard after being on the market for over two years. This isn't fanboyism, it's hard facts.

... Oh, and uh, just one more thing: If you hate PCs so much, then what are you using to access this site? Your PlayStation? Just curious ...

 

[The Virgo]

Actually, seeing as how the first two posts have been, I see a huge shit storm a brewin'.

Mods, could you please close the thread? People are going to take this way too seriously, so let's close this before people get reported/infracted/banned/etc.

Thanks.

 

[The Virgo]

Wow, that was absolutely out of context hatred quoting me there. I wasn't trolling the PC, I was pretty much just stating what's true. A PC that isn't specifically built for gaming won't function very well as a gaming rig. Take for instance my 900 USD laptop, which can't run many things that came out after 2005 (built and purchased in 2009). Even at insanely low settings and patches to make it run on weaker models Oblivion chugs, we're talking 30FPS and lower. If I turn off all the fancy shaders, anti-aliasing, and draw distance down to a minimum I can get it to run at a constant 30FPS, but nothing more. I got absolutely nothing against PC gaming, but the simple fact is it's not as accessible as console gaming, and save for Sony's 800USD debacle, and Microsoft's dislike of functioning cooling systems, it's cheaper, and easier. And that's the point. A console is supposed to be cheap and easy. That's not trolling, that's, like you said, cold hard facts.

Wow, dude, sounds like you got fucked. What are the specs? Because, like I told you, I recently had a system built for pretty cheap, and it will pretty much run whatever you throw at it at high settings and good framerates at 1600x900 resolution. And my system is pretty entry-level stuff:

PSU: Diablotek 400 watt ATX power supply ($22.99)
MoBO: MSI GF615M-P31 ($45)
CPU: AMD Athlon II X2 Processor (dual-core, 3.0 GHz) ($60)
GPU: Galaxy GT 520 ($50)
RAM: 4GB, two 2GB sticks of DDR3 RAM. (Cheaper than shit.)
Harddrive: 250gb. Way too small, but it works. (not sure of the price.)
Optical drive: Cheapest thing they had.

All the parts that I have certain numbers for come out to around $177.99. Add, let's say $100 for the harddrive, $20 for the RAM and $25 for the optical drive and you have, rounding up, about $330 for a very nice little computer. Now, if we start from scratch, we also have about $115 for an ACER 1600x900 20" LCD monitor, $25 for some speakers and about $30 for a cheapy mouse/keyboard combo. And let's say $50 for a case. That still only comes out to, rounding to because of sales tax, $600, about $550 if you bought them over the internet (no sales tax). Not bad for playing fairly new games on. And hey, it works great with older games and, let's face it, the older ones are better anyway than most of the shit we have now.

And it can run BioShock, Empire: Total War on decent setting, ABP: Reloaded and many more without even a hint of lag. It could even run Skyrim, if I wanted, but not on ultra, so I'm going to wait to buy it. Then again, if I wasn't a graphics whore, I would buy it.

Also, longevity isn't two years, longevity isn't 5 years. Longevity is plugging my Dreamcast in, and it still working. Longevity is my Atari 7200 still working. My parent's old Windows ME (Yes I know. I was like, 14 when they bought it. If they listened to me then they would have known better) rig will NOT play games that game out in the same year they got it (2000). Longevity means that years after it's obsolete it can function and run in it's own environment. Consoles have that above PC's because they don't get upgraded internally. A ten year old PC that hasn't been upgraded since it was built, is 1 a miracle it runs, and 2, not going to be able to play anything in the current era, which it is designed to do. Longevity doesn't mean a single part last you a long time, longevity means the entire thing. PCs can't have longevity because we're constantly pushing the boundaries of what they're capable of.

Longevity is being able to play games from back in the early 90's like Doom, Quake, Myst and X-COM and have them alongside ARMA 2: Free and BioShock. That's longevity. And hey, you can't really say the consoles have longevity because they have stagnated the industry. Most games these days that are PC/Console games can be run on a GeForce 8800 GT. That was a long time ago. Why? Because their parts are old but game companies still try and make games for it.

Stagnation is not the same as longevity. It is artificial longevity because consoles cannot be upgraded.

Let's not even get into the joke that is minimum requirements. I had a PC that beat UT3's minimum requirements (not by a lot mind you. But Microsoft assured me it would play, even if it was still ugly as hell) and it fried my computer. Utterly annihilated it. Playing it froze the computer, rebooting it brought me to a black screen that said, "No OS Detected". Yeah, it fried my hard drive. Destroyed it. Yes, you don't have to update it often to get the absolute best performance, but when it comes to PC gamers, that's what they tote the most isn't it? Performance. You want the best, you update often.

.... What? Dude, I hate to tell you this, but I am 98% positive the game did not fry your hard drive. You either had a faulty hard drive, a virus, or something overheated. Or maybe your copy of UT3 was from the black market. There is no reason the game would have fried your hard drive. Sorry, ain't buying that one. However, I do get the feeling that you are not very good with computers. :-/

And hey, the guys who bought the ATI 5970 aren't going to have to upgrade for a while. And besides, buying another console is the same thing as "upgrading", it's just not called the same thing.

So please, next time you accuse someone of trolling, make sure you actually read their post. It's getting to be a sickening trend on this web site that anyone with an opinion differing from someone else is instantly labeled a troll. It destroys any form of intelligent discussion and makes you look like bible-thumpers, sticking your fingers in your ears and pretending you're superior.

Bible-thumpers? Really, dude? See, you talk about wanting to have an intelligent discussion, then say I look like a bible-thumper. You're really reaching, dude.

As for your question there, I do use my PS3 to post on this website from time to time. If I'm on it and don't feel like switching over to my computer I just flip on the internet browser. It's not the best, but you know how Sony doesn't want me to have Lynux on it anymore.

Sony has no right to tell me shit about what I put on my computer as long as it's legal. Neither does Microsoft. PCs do have that atvantage. >

 

[esperandote]

PS4 - Metal Gear Solid Rising 2, God of war 4
New XBOX - Gears of war 4

 

[isometry]

Wow, rough thread so far.

Based on the specs of the Xbox 360, compared to the state of computer hardware when that system was announced and launched, I think you might have underestimated the specs for the next-gen consoles. They usually aren't completely out of date when they launch ;-)

I'd expect 4 to 8GB of system ram, and at least 2GB of vram on a graphics card of similar power to a Geforce 560 Ti (current cost $250). Most likely they will aim for 1080p, and at that resolution there wouldn't be much need for more vram. Processor will be 4 or 8 cores at +3GHz, it's hard to guess since both systems used non-standard processors last generation.

Considering Microsoft controls direct X, the next Xbox may be timed with the next-generation of direct X, meaning even the best cards of today would be out of date compared to an Xbox 720 that launches in 2013.

 

[Jabberwock xeno]

Why not just have the new consoles have a new processor/graphics unit come out every few months? that way, consoles get PC graphics/options, and MS and sony get more money.

Everybody wins!

 

[BreakfastMan]

I would honestly be surprised if the PS4 and NeXt-Box have anything less than an i7 for their processor. I would guess each core would have at least 3.0 ghz. As far as GPU goes, I would say something in a GTX 580 flavor (or similar) or better. Maybe SLI, but that might drive the cost up too much, so maybe not. I would expect nothing less than 8 gigs RAM. Both will probably support blu-ray as well. I would also suspect a 1TB hard drive will be involved at some point, but I am not 100% sure. Launch games will be crap. We all know this, they usually are.

 

[I-Protest-I]

I'm not very knowledgeable as to specs or the PS console so I'm going to have a stab in the dark about the games for the next Xbox within 6 months of release:

Gears of War 4, epic have been at the forefront of using the technology.
Halo (number 5 probably,) always the xbox's poster boy.
Call of Duty (number I can't count that high) would be a good incentive for casual gamers to buy the system
Mass Effect (same universe different story) more of a personal want to be honest.
Elder Scrolls because of Skyrim's popularity and the more powerful console.



OP: You were right, this was a good way to pass a couple minutes.

 

[omicron1]

I predict that the PS4 will be able to stream games to the Vita over 3G or wireless, a la OnLive. Move will not survive the transition in any meaningful way.
The next Xbox will come with a clunky "revolutionary" motion control system and (Shock! Awe!) a pair of button-laden nunchucks you can hold in your hands while Kinecting.

The technical proficiencies of both will surprise people by being relatively low - incremental, rather than revolutionary. Expect 4-core CPUs from both (possibly 8 from the PS4 again), at least 1gb (probably 2) of shared memory, and graphics on par with the Radeon 5xxx series of cards.

 

[ResonanceSD]

console

Not even half as good as a gaming PC from the same generation, is basically what we're going to see again.

 

[ResonanceSD]

console

Not even half as good as a gaming PC from the same generation, is basically what we're going to see again.

I own a top-spec gaming PC, I for one am somewhat annoyed at Consoles lagging behind in terms of hardware, and with their market size, most developers develop for them as the low-hanging fruit which makes money.

EDIT: This was meant to be an edit -_-' not a quote of a quote.

 

[vrbtny]

It'll all be custom stuff.

Also.

The new Xcom shooter will be released for both.
Halo 5. 4 has already been confirmed for 360
Gears - The next godarn trilogy.
A few call of duty games. Seriously, there will be multiple Call of Duty games made for the release of teh next gen consoles.
Battlefield 4
Chuck : The Game (this would be awesome if done well)

Spoiler

that last one was a joke.....although it would be awesome if done.

 

[ResonanceSD]

I own a top-spec gaming PC, I for one am somewhat annoyed at Consoles lagging behind in terms of hardware, and with their market size, most developers develop for them as the low-hanging fruit which makes money.

So, something that doesn't effect you at all annoys you? Something that is not made to compete with your chosen platform annoys you?
What? And let's not forget that Metal Gear Solid 4 proves that last statement wrong.

Ok, run Crysis on a PS3 at full settings. See how that goes for you. I'm pissed off because games have the potential to be so much more than they are, but due to the frankly shithouse hardware inside current generation consoles, they are limited.

 

[ResonanceSD]

All I can say is, buy cheap and you get cheap.

If you ever do game on PC's again build it yourself and spend a decent amount of money, nothing too much.

700$ is too much for playing video games on. if 400$ is too cheap, then PCs are too expensive. My first car was 500$ and without replacing parts lasted me longer than the XP did.
You can't claim you can make a gaming rig for 400-600 dollars and say, "buy cheap, get cheap". You invalidate the whole point of saying gaming rigs aren't as expensive as people make them out to be.

From what I could tell you bought prebuilt i.e cheap, if you had spent the same on a custom built one it would have been better for gaming.

Hardware is always more expensive with PCs, the savings come from peripherals and software which are MUCH cheaper than with consoles.

I custom built mine for about $3300 before adding peripherals You pay for what you get. A prefab "gaming PC" isn't going to be nearly as good as something you put together yourself for the same price.

 

[Uber Evil]

Why not just have the new consoles have a new processor/graphics unit come out every few months? that way, consoles get PC graphics/options, and MS and sony get more money.

Everybody wins!

Except that Sony's graphics cards would be proprietary and cost something like $600, like how they are doing the Vita's memory.

 

[ResonanceSD]

All I can say is, buy cheap and you get cheap.

If you ever do game on PC's again build it yourself and spend a decent amount of money, nothing too much.

700$ is too much for playing video games on. if 400$ is too cheap, then PCs are too expensive. My first car was 500$ and without replacing parts lasted me longer than the XP did.
You can't claim you can make a gaming rig for 400-600 dollars and say, "buy cheap, get cheap". You invalidate the whole point of saying gaming rigs aren't as expensive as people make them out to be.

From what I could tell you bought prebuilt i.e cheap, if you had spent the same on a custom built one it would have been better for gaming.

Hardware is always more expensive with PCs, the savings come from peripherals and software which are MUCH cheaper than with consoles.

I custom built mine for about $3300 before adding peripherals You pay for what you get. A prefab "gaming PC" isn't going to be nearly as good as something you put together yourself for the same price.

I don't mean to be blunt but why did you tell me this? I'm genuinely interested but can't see your point.

Quoted the wrong post This was to the "$700 is enough" guy.

700$ is too much for playing video games on. if 400$ is too cheap, then PCs are too expensive. My first car was 500$ and without replacing parts lasted me longer than the XP did.
You can't claim you can make a gaming rig for 400-600 dollars and say, "buy cheap, get cheap". You invalidate the whole point of saying gaming rigs aren't as expensive as people make them out to be.

Yeah you. Seriously? $700 covers the cost of one of my graphics cards and my CPU. And that's it. =D

 

[TheLastSamurai14]

PlayStation 4:

CPU - 3.5 GHz
GPU - 1.5 GB
RAM - 1.5 GB

Launch Lineup:

One or more JRPGs (probability: 100%)
A Call of Duty game (probability: 100%, but only because the Xbox will have it)
A racing game (probability: 72%)
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive (probability: 46%)
Grand Theft Auto 5 (probability: 50%)
A new Hitman game (probability: 84%)

My predictions are that the CPU will be a quad core, and that it will have 2-4 GB of RAM. Then it will pretty much be a proprietary version of my gaming PC.

Also, I think Final Fantasy Versus XIII (somewhat represented in your list) would be included in that lineup, but it would be graphically inferior at that point, even with everything that Square Enix is trying to squeeze out of the PS3 for it.

Makes me sad, and it kind of makes me wish the game will be released before the PS4's launch.

I custom built mine for about $3300 before adding peripherals.

Fu...fu...whaaaaaa? O_O Specs and peripherals plox.