Yes it annoys the hell out of me :/ i have a girl friend (a friend who is a girl just to clarify) who says stuff like this all of the time because she got with one guy who treated her badly. So she regularly comes out with the typical 'all guys are the same!!' comments. She seems to forget that most of her friends are lads though.
GUYS ARE ASSHOLES!!!
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It totally goes both ways, though. I mean, I'm a lesbian, and I frequently find myself saying, "GAH! WOMEN SUCK!" whenever things get hectic with my love life, and I'm sure guys do this too, if maybe not in front of women for fear of the double standard.
We all enjoy being a little dramatic and self-indulgent sometimes. And it's much easier to say, "ARRGH WOMEN!" or "ARRGH MEN!" instead of, "Why does everyone I date turn out to do things that frustrate me?" (Maybe because that would actually mean acknowledging that we play a part in what goes wrong too, and we like being right, damn it.)
We all enjoy being a little dramatic and self-indulgent sometimes. And it's much easier to say, "ARRGH WOMEN!" or "ARRGH MEN!" instead of, "Why does everyone I date turn out to do things that frustrate me?" (Maybe because that would actually mean acknowledging that we play a part in what goes wrong too, and we like being right, damn it.)
It annoys me (or at least bugs me) when someone decides they can judge an entire demographic by the actions of a few of its members. In short, yes it annoys me, but there is nothing you can do about it because stupid people will always be stupid.
Fairly simple solution that's never gonna happen, those kinda women need to stopp humping the 'oh so dark and interesting' assholes, and try the 'oh he's so boring' nice guys.
Then of course we need to stop chasing the glammy self obsessed women, instead of realising later on that they look that good because they're so self obsessed.
Then of course we need to stop chasing the glammy self obsessed women, instead of realising later on that they look that good because they're so self obsessed.
It doesn't annoy me really. Women will be women, men will be men. For every asshole of a man there is a ***** of a woman.
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Feelings have their own logic that's been bred into us over thousands of years of evolution. Since civilization is an anomaly in terms of our evolutionary development, the way we react to certain types of people doesn't really make sense in the context of the way things "should" work in modern life.
To make an obtuse generalization myself, women (especially young women) find assholes attractive and exciting because they are usually self-confident (read: self-involved -- looks about the same in practice) and are fun to be around (read: get into trouble a lot and/or do a lot of stupid/reckless stuff).
Women (again, especially young women) disrespect nice guys because they're more likely to be caring, diplomatic, and eager to please (read: pussy-whipped) and boring (read: don't do stupid/reckless stuff).
Now imagine you're a woman living in caveman times, when life is tough, food, water, and shelter are scarce, and the dudes from the next tribe over want to drag you away by your hair and rape you. Who would you rather be hanging out with: the asshole, or the nice guy? Keep in mind, you're going to be extremely lucky to live into your late 20s.
Yeah.
Men, of course, experience the same thing too. Think about the last person you knew (male or female) who was nice to you all the time.
Maybe they did you a lot of favors without asking for anything in return, maybe they treated you to lunch/dinner a lot, maybe they were really careful not to say anything that might offend you. Maybe you appreciated their thoughtfulness, but (sooner or later) it probably got on your nerves as well.
People like that often seem fake, needy, or just not worth being around. They seem like leeches, like pesky salesmen. They may be offering their money or their time, but they're taking your emotional energy (by asking that you pay attention to them, whether you really like them or not) in return. It's impossible to respect such a person.
So the next time you hear a girl say "Oh, that guy I dated (and probably had sex with many times), he is such an asshole!" or "Ugh, I hate men, they're all a bunch of assholes!" or "I just want to meet a nice guy." she's probably just doesn't know what she wants, doesn't understand why she feels attracted to some types of men and not others, and is regurgitating societal norms regarding what types of men a woman should be interested in.
I've been told that Marlon Brando in A Streetcar Named Desire and James Dean in A Rebel Without a Cause were such powerful representations of "asshole men" (read: powerful men) that women would masturbate in the theater when they were onscreen. Don't know if that's true or not, but I personally wouldn't be surprised if it happened once or twice.
Very, very much. If a girl says that I just look at them like they're an asshole because if they're going to use that tired old generalisation just because they keep selecting the dicks then why should I bother?FinalHeart95 said:
man i hear you i dont think they mean all guys though either but they should stop generalising after all if i cant yell out "why cant all women learn to stfu!" then why should they equality plzFinalHeart95 said:
It's called "double-standard" and it's usually practiced by women who were (at some point in their lives) hurt by men, so they have a very jaded opinion. Also yes this annoys the piss out of me.
I don't like it. To me, any of us girls saying that all men are arseholes is just like a man saying that all us girls are whiny bitches - neither are true and neither of them should really be cool to say. The ironic thing is that it's probably the girls who say that all men are arseholes most, who have had the most "success", as it were, with men.
I love your logic. As well, I am also an asshole. I used to be nice until I realized I was more successful in all aspects of my life by being an asshole.Choppaduel said:
... ya know we only say this because of certain guys in our life making bad examples out of the rest of the guys.FinalHeart95 said:
Unfortunately, I am stuck on the guys are assholes thing myself... because of guy in my life who sure the hell is one and of course predictably so, he has hurt me and now I'm kind of in this line of thinking. >n> I sure don't mean to offend all guys or anything it's just.. I do know a lot of asshole-y ones and until I'm proven otherwise... I guess that's kind of how I'm going to think. But mostly it's to protect myself ya know -- from getting hurt. -shrug-
We're made to be ignorant fuckfaces, thank you. Also it is awesome. Women wouldn't now what to do without us; they'd have to find an entirely new pastime; looking after us takes up a lot of time after all. XD