Pretty much convinced skynet is behind this.....From the eternal internet it rises, / Creating armies on either shore, / Turning man against his brother / 'Til man exists no more.
Hackers Offer PSN Credit Cards For Sale
- Thread starter Andy Chalk
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I think everyone is overreacting a bit. If you use the same password on your PSN account as your email accounts change them. And then monitor your Credit and Debit card activity. They stole something like 77 million users info, The chances that your account will be compromised are very slim.
Sony is working with a security firm right now and the first step was to probably go out to the major Credit card processors(VISA, Discover, Amex, etc) with the list of names of everyone compromised. They are all probably now on a high alert list for suspicious charges. If anything its more likely that a legitimate charge you perform might get denied because of the watch list. If you are planning on traveling out of country I would call your credit card company and let them know or you might find it shutdown when you try to buy that coffee in Germany.
In the end Sony screwed up big and they have a major security breach. But everyone with PSN accounts don't have to run around like the world is ending either. Just check you bank and credit accounts daily and watch your credit reports(although since Sony doesn't take you SSN this shouldn't really be a problem)
Sony is working with a security firm right now and the first step was to probably go out to the major Credit card processors(VISA, Discover, Amex, etc) with the list of names of everyone compromised. They are all probably now on a high alert list for suspicious charges. If anything its more likely that a legitimate charge you perform might get denied because of the watch list. If you are planning on traveling out of country I would call your credit card company and let them know or you might find it shutdown when you try to buy that coffee in Germany.
In the end Sony screwed up big and they have a major security breach. But everyone with PSN accounts don't have to run around like the world is ending either. Just check you bank and credit accounts daily and watch your credit reports(although since Sony doesn't take you SSN this shouldn't really be a problem)
i regularly buy stuff from the psn and i have lost no faith in sony.
the people or person that pulled off this hack obviously used aggressive hack techniques that probably only the ministry of defence could deflect.
the fact that all this hit the fan so shortly after the threats from anonymous i don't think is a coincidence.
it all just sounds like threats and posturing to me.
the people or person that pulled off this hack obviously used aggressive hack techniques that probably only the ministry of defence could deflect.
the fact that all this hit the fan so shortly after the threats from anonymous i don't think is a coincidence.
it all just sounds like threats and posturing to me.
I suddenly realised that I created a PSN account for my brothers PSP and may have tried to add my debit card. It should be too serious, it's only a debit with about £5 on it but I don't like the idea that someone has my information. Well, I needed to change my password on all these sites, I suppose I should ring up my bank sometime.
Jim's story may or may not be accurate, comments show that some people didn't put their CVV in while others remember definitely having to do so. Makes no difference to me, though the screenshot taken from playstation.com seems to imply they do ask for it in some cases. I cancelled my card the moment I heard the info had been compromised anyway, along with changing all my passwords, so I'm not that concerned about it. Just pointing out that it is possible, /if/ this story is true, that they do have CVV numbers for some of those cards.
Remember that rumour just a week ago that this was actually just a move on Sony to reduce piracy? That was reported as almost fact and everyone immediately believed?
I'll wait before I make judgements.
Apart from anything else, this is the perfect opportunity to make a lot of money pretending that you have the PSN credit card details. It's not as though they can complain that they've be scammed and it's a lot safer and takes less effort
I'll wait before I make judgements.
Apart from anything else, this is the perfect opportunity to make a lot of money pretending that you have the PSN credit card details. It's not as though they can complain that they've be scammed and it's a lot safer and takes less effort
Well, my bank is awesome! So fucking glad I live in Australia (though I feel sorry for the guy with the bogus $2000 transaction. Saw him on the news, I think he got it refunded and fixed though, no lawsuits needed~)
Anyway, my bank has assured me that they're monitoring transactions at all times, as a free part of the service, so they've said I will only require a new debit card if I really have mass-paranoia and desperately think I'm going to die without a new card.
So, basically, CHILL THE FUCK DOWN. This kind of shit happens. I know I've seen it happen before, from banks or any big-name institution. Cyber criminals gonna cyber crime. It's the nasty shit they do.
Sure, Sony may not have been "well prepared", but that's certainly no license to say "FUCKING ATTACK THEM, HACKERS! KILL SONY!
" No, that just makes you a heartless twat!
Anyway, my bank has assured me that they're monitoring transactions at all times, as a free part of the service, so they've said I will only require a new debit card if I really have mass-paranoia and desperately think I'm going to die without a new card.
So, basically, CHILL THE FUCK DOWN. This kind of shit happens. I know I've seen it happen before, from banks or any big-name institution. Cyber criminals gonna cyber crime. It's the nasty shit they do.
Sure, Sony may not have been "well prepared", but that's certainly no license to say "FUCKING ATTACK THEM, HACKERS! KILL SONY!
" No, that just makes you a heartless twat!I never said anything about that. I am just saying that it was their responcibility to protect the data their users entrusted the company with...MattAn24 said:Well, my bank is awesome! So fucking glad I live in Australia (though I feel sorry for the guy with the bogus $2000 transaction. Saw him on the news, I think he got it refunded and fixed though, no lawsuits needed~)
Anyway, my bank has assured me that they're monitoring transactions at all times, as a free part of the service, so they've said I will only require a new debit card if I really have mass-paranoia and desperately think I'm going to die without a new card.
So, basically, CHILL THE FUCK DOWN. This kind of shit happens. I know I've seen it happen before, from banks or any big-name institution. Cyber criminals gonna cyber crime. It's the nasty shit they do.
Sure, Sony may not have been "well prepared", but that's certainly no license to say "FUCKING ATTACK THEM, HACKERS! KILL SONY!
...WHY!? They're suing the wrong people! Find the hackers and sue THEM! What the fuck is the big problem? THIS SHIT HAPPENS ALL THE DAMN TIME. It is nothing new. If it weren't Sony, it would have been Verizon. Or AT&T. Or NBC.Darks63 said:
This was not an attack from a GeoHotz sympathizer (like, I admit, I initially claimed it to be). No. This was solely the work of CYBER CRIMINALS, with absolutely no care or remorse at all. They don't care who YOU are or who they attack. They will do it.
Remember not to trust everything you see on the internet.ace_of_something said:
One person said all debit cards have a 250Euro limit, this guy is saying all debit cards have no protection.
All debit cards, and credit cards, come with individual contracts. For example my Debit card has a $2000 limit and it does have fraud protection.
On Topic: I'd just get a new card. Better safe than sorry guys.
Yes. It is. And for all we know (not what news sites, aka the sensationalist media) want to report), SONY could have had a nicely encrypted system. Just enough to keep it safe. Hackers CAN bypass that. No. Not just any hackers. These are expertly trained cyber criminals who will stop at nothing to get information. If there's a wall, they'll break it.Matthew Lynch said:I never said anything about that. I am just saying that it was their responcibility to protect the data their users entrusted the company with...MattAn24 said:Well, my bank is awesome! So fucking glad I live in Australia (though I feel sorry for the guy with the bogus $2000 transaction. Saw him on the news, I think he got it refunded and fixed though, no lawsuits needed~)
Anyway, my bank has assured me that they're monitoring transactions at all times, as a free part of the service, so they've said I will only require a new debit card if I really have mass-paranoia and desperately think I'm going to die without a new card.
So, basically, CHILL THE FUCK DOWN. This kind of shit happens. I know I've seen it happen before, from banks or any big-name institution. Cyber criminals gonna cyber crime. It's the nasty shit they do.
Sure, Sony may not have been "well prepared", but that's certainly no license to say "FUCKING ATTACK THEM, HACKERS! KILL SONY!
Hell, what's the bet it's a butt-hurt ex-Sony employee who knew the way in and informed criminals? NOBODY KNOWS.
Unfortunately, their own agreements say they have to take the responcibility for losses from their security...at least when it comes to credit details. (At least thats what the agreement on xbox live is...not sure if it is different for Sony)MattAn24 said:Yes. It is. And for all we know (not what news sites, aka the sensationalist media) want to report), SONY could have had a nicely encrypted system. Just enough to keep it safe. Hackers CAN bypass that. No. Not just any hackers. These are expertly trained cyber criminals who will stop at nothing to get information. If there's a wall, they'll break it.Matthew Lynch said:I never said anything about that. I am just saying that it was their responcibility to protect the data their users entrusted the company with...MattAn24 said:Well, my bank is awesome! So fucking glad I live in Australia (though I feel sorry for the guy with the bogus $2000 transaction. Saw him on the news, I think he got it refunded and fixed though, no lawsuits needed~)
Anyway, my bank has assured me that they're monitoring transactions at all times, as a free part of the service, so they've said I will only require a new debit card if I really have mass-paranoia and desperately think I'm going to die without a new card.
So, basically, CHILL THE FUCK DOWN. This kind of shit happens. I know I've seen it happen before, from banks or any big-name institution. Cyber criminals gonna cyber crime. It's the nasty shit they do.
Sure, Sony may not have been "well prepared", but that's certainly no license to say "FUCKING ATTACK THEM, HACKERS! KILL SONY!
Hell, what's the bet it's a butt-hurt ex-Sony employee who knew the way in and informed criminals? NOBODY KNOWS.
Which is where the problem lies; We don't know how extensive their protection actually was. You can lambast Sony all you want over a failure to protect your data, but if you don't know what they did to protect it, it's hard to say that they were somehow negligent in that protection.Matthew Lynch said:
Security has to work all the time; hackers only have to get lucky once.