Halo series to continue through 2015

[UsefulPlayer 1]

It could go many ways, it's all about how they do it.

Just because it says Halo doesn't mean it has to be "God this again?!" And shove off if you don't like it, because other people do.

I would also like to remind people that Starwars was just a movie and look what it is now.

 

[SovietSecrets]

Just to make sure that everyone gets this, I don't hate Halo, in fact I like it very much. I got it the first week it came out along with my Xbox. My point is I don't want to see more of them for sake of making more money even if they are good and even if people are screaming for more. I'd rather see a new game that starts off another series. If Halo was this good, imagine what else they can make that can be better.

 

[Zealous]

Everyone seems to be forgetting an important detail here (or doesn't know about it). Bungie isn't making any more Halo games after Reach. All the rest will be made by Microsoft. As long as the games are good (and not extremely overpriced) I'll keep buying them though.
Also, I don't see the huge deal over both the size of the Halo game franchise, the copy pasted multiplayer, and the length of ODST.
Look at CoD. Main competitor in the top spot for FPS on the Xbox today. They pump out one game per year with a recycled multiplayer and slap on a 60$ price tag.
Please note that I do not think CoD is a bad game series and was just using Cod for demonstrational purposes only.

 

[i_herd_u_liek_mudkip]

Said the guy who joined, naming himself after a 4chan meme, just today, with only one post, so apparently just to post this. Is money involved? Definitely. Is that the primary motivation? There's a good chance it is. Does that mean they can't take fans and non-fans into consideration and make good games? Nope.

Yeah? And? I don't see your point. And the first sentence was completely unrelated. Way to be a dick asshole. Do you have a problem with that? Stick to the topic. As for your last point, you're right, they don't have to if they don't want to. But do you honestly think that's what their real motive? Think about it on their point of view, would you think "Our gamers want ____, we will give them ____" or would you say "Look, this franchise have already helped us make millions before, lets take it and see what we can do with it to make another product so we can sell it and make more money." I'm not saying that's all they're doing, I'm just saying that's the most probable one. You see how that choice has only one thing to do with fans? "Make millions." Will they blindly make a game without hearing what the fans want? No. Will they do it for the fan? 99% of the time, they will not.

P.S. No actual statistics used.
P.P.S. There is a difference between doing it for someone, and doing it for yourself. Even though the outcome is the same.
P.P.P.S. I said it before and I'll say it again. Stick to the topic.

 

[ProfessorLayton]

I'm not surprised that they are going to milk this series for all it's worth. It makes money. By the end, though, no one will want to hear about Halo ever again. There's really not much more they can do with it, and they've released ODST and they're making Reach which people will also complain about being repackaged.

 

[Pimppeter2]

snip.

Do doctors perform open heart surgery if they're not paid?


Does Starbucks keep making coffee because it wakes me up Saturday mornings?

You can't make anything "for the fans" and put a price tag on it.

I'm not sure how people didn't see this coming. It's a trademark game for the Xbox, what are the chances that they completely drop the title

Each consecutive halo is just an upgraded version of the last, not something new, not something original, just an upgrade with a $60 price tag pretending its something out of this world.

What??? Isn't that what every sequel is? I mean you don't hear people bitching about Oblivion being crap because its just an upgraded version of Morrowind. The whole purpose of a sequel is to take the last one and further the story while upgrading the gameplay.

 

[Textbook Bobcat]

I feel bad for the people that get sprayed with the milk from this very overfed cash cow.

Fact: Media is better if it is generated "just because" not off the back off something else

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

I'd play if i thought they'd be cool...

OK, seriously, I'm sick and fucking tired of people saying there are too many Halo games. There are four, five if you count ODST, and six if you count the yet-to-be-released Reach.

So let's just go with that. Six. How many Call of Duty games are there? How many Mario games are there? How many Pokemon? Grand Theft Auto? Final Fantasy?

I mean, come on, guys. I've never seen a game get bashed for having just six games (one of which barely counts!). How about you just wait and see what games they have coming out and judge them on being a game rather than them being a Halo game? Is it really that hard? To people really have to ***** and moan this much about a huge franchise? Seriously, it's not like it's a first...

^^^ This too... there's like 12 FF games... it's crazy

Final Fantasy has been around for over 25 years too. 25 years:12 games vs. 7 years:6 games.

The problem isn't pure numbers of games (can't compare things like Mario and Final Fantasy that have been around since the original NES to a series that started on the XBOX) but the number of them in the short span of time. Halo 1 took a long time to make, and it was a good game. Halo 2 took less time and wasn't as good, Halo 3 took even less time and was even worse. These other Halo games are coming out at the rate of about 1 a year and quality has been going down faster with each game (don't get me started on COD games, I hate those too.)

I have to say this too you can't really comment on Final Fantasy having a lot of games as they are fairly different stories with each game so only a few have actual sequels.

Also Final Fantasy does get a lot of crap about having so many games despite the fact it has been around so long and so does Mario so you can't say people don't go mad about them infact there are a few threads on this forum about that very thing in Final Fantasy.

 

[i_herd_u_liek_mudkip]

snip.

Do doctors perform open heart surgery if they're not paid?


Does Starbucks keep making coffee because it wakes me up Saturday mornings?

You can't make anything "for the fans" and put a price tag on it.

I'm not sure how people didn't see this coming. It's a trademark game for the Xbox, what are the chances that they completely drop the title


What??? Isn't that what every sequel is? I mean you don't hear people bitching about Oblivion being crap because its just an upgraded version of Morrowind. The whole purpose of a sequel is to take the last one and further the story while upgrading the gameplay.

Yes, I hated Oblivion. I don't see your point.

What you said pretty much backed up what I wanted to say.

 

[Pimppeter2]

snip.

Do doctors perform open heart surgery if they're not paid?


Does Starbucks keep making coffee because it wakes me up Saturday mornings?

You can't make anything "for the fans" and put a price tag on it.

I'm not sure how people didn't see this coming. It's a trademark game for the Xbox, what are the chances that they completely drop the title


What??? Isn't that what every sequel is? I mean you don't hear people bitching about Oblivion being crap because its just an upgraded version of Morrowind. The whole purpose of a sequel is to take the last one and further the story while upgrading the gameplay.

Yes, I hated Oblivion. I don't see your point.

*Gloveslap*

What you said pretty much backed up what I wanted to say.

No I didn't. You just trolled Halo for doing what every game is supposed to do. Imagine if they released the first part of your favorite game, lets say Resident Evil, and 2 years later released a new one were zombies are replaced with puppies, and instead of a shooter its a sports game

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

snip.

Do doctors perform open heart surgery if they're not paid?


Does Starbucks keep making coffee because it wakes me up Saturday mornings?

You can't make anything "for the fans" and put a price tag on it.

I'm not sure how people didn't see this coming. It's a trademark game for the Xbox, what are the chances that they completely drop the title


What??? Isn't that what every sequel is? I mean you don't hear people bitching about Oblivion being crap because its just an upgraded version of Morrowind. The whole purpose of a sequel is to take the last one and further the story while upgrading the gameplay.

Yes, I hated Oblivion. I don't see your point.

What you said pretty much backed up what I wanted to say.

Not really you just said that every Halo is just an upgraded version of the previous ones which is ture to all sequels you stated as if Halo was the only series that say used the same engine twice or the exact same combat system.

And his point is that all sequels are just the game before with tweaks.

How many games can you name where they had a sequel with a 100% new game play system.

I for on can't think of any like all the Crash Bandicoots, CoDs, Rachet and Clanks all have the same core their general aspects aren't changed in sequels.

 

[Pimppeter2]

I'd play if i thought they'd be cool...

OK, seriously, I'm sick and fucking tired of people saying there are too many Halo games. There are four, five if you count ODST, and six if you count the yet-to-be-released Reach.

So let's just go with that. Six. How many Call of Duty games are there? How many Mario games are there? How many Pokemon? Grand Theft Auto? Final Fantasy?

I mean, come on, guys. I've never seen a game get bashed for having just six games (one of which barely counts!). How about you just wait and see what games they have coming out and judge them on being a game rather than them being a Halo game? Is it really that hard? To people really have to ***** and moan this much about a huge franchise? Seriously, it's not like it's a first...

^^^ This too... there's like 12 FF games... it's crazy

Final Fantasy has been around for over 25 years too. 25 years:12 games vs. 7 years:6 games.

The problem isn't pure numbers of games (can't compare things like Mario and Final Fantasy that have been around since the original NES to a series that started on the XBOX) but the number of them in the short span of time. Halo 1 took a long time to make, and it was a good game. Halo 2 took less time and wasn't as good, Halo 3 took even less time and was even worse. These other Halo games are coming out at the rate of about 1 a year and quality has been going down faster with each game (don't get me started on COD games, I hate those too.)

Halo 1: 2001

Halo 2: 2004

Halo 3: 2007

Halo wars: Feb 2009 (Different studio)

Halo ODST: Sep 2009

Halo Reach: Atumn 2010

9 years 4 games. Not 7 years 6 gamnes

9 years 5 games if you want to be picky

SO in 25 years there would be about 10 or 12.5-13.5 games, if thats how you want to play

 

[TheRightToArmBears]

I'm not a Halo fan, so I won't buy them. Simples.

 

[phoenix352]

as long as the games are good, i dont care.
Its when they milk a dead cow (i.e. - Sonic) when they need to stop

sonic never died they just fucked up the point of the game from speed and obstacles + humorous bosses to a 3rd person action game with no depth....


also ive seen they are trying to get back to the games roots with that new 2d/3d sonic game in the works called project needle-mouse ... hoping it be good >.>

 

[quack35]

I'm kinda curious as to how they plan on continuing the story...

So, I suppose I'm interested.

Although Bungie won't be making any of them, so...

 

[Shepard's Shadow]

I think its great. I have yet to play a Halo game that disappoints me.

 

[i_herd_u_liek_mudkip]

Go read what OP said a while back. Then go read what I said a while back. Finally, go read what you just said. Connection?

 

[asinann]

I'd play if i thought they'd be cool...

OK, seriously, I'm sick and fucking tired of people saying there are too many Halo games. There are four, five if you count ODST, and six if you count the yet-to-be-released Reach.

So let's just go with that. Six. How many Call of Duty games are there? How many Mario games are there? How many Pokemon? Grand Theft Auto? Final Fantasy?

I mean, come on, guys. I've never seen a game get bashed for having just six games (one of which barely counts!). How about you just wait and see what games they have coming out and judge them on being a game rather than them being a Halo game? Is it really that hard? To people really have to ***** and moan this much about a huge franchise? Seriously, it's not like it's a first...

^^^ This too... there's like 12 FF games... it's crazy

Final Fantasy has been around for over 25 years too. 25 years:12 games vs. 7 years:6 games.

The problem isn't pure numbers of games (can't compare things like Mario and Final Fantasy that have been around since the original NES to a series that started on the XBOX) but the number of them in the short span of time. Halo 1 took a long time to make, and it was a good game. Halo 2 took less time and wasn't as good, Halo 3 took even less time and was even worse. These other Halo games are coming out at the rate of about 1 a year and quality has been going down faster with each game (don't get me started on COD games, I hate those too.)

Halo 1: 2001

Halo 2: 2004

Halo 3: 2007

Halo wars: Feb 2009 (Different studio)

Halo ODST: Sep 2009

Halo Reach: Atumn 2010

9 years 4 games. Not 7 years 6 gamnes

9 years 5 games if you want to be picky

SO in 25 years there would be about 10 or 12.5-13.5 games, if thats how you want to play

So only half the COD games count because there's more than one studio?

Even at 9 years, it's still 9:6. At that pace, after 25 years we should have somewhere around 18 games with a 19th in development. And this is while the studios are cutting development staff and doing away with generating new ideas.

The first Halo was good because it actually had some story, some interaction with other characters beyond "go here, kill this." Hell, they couldn't even come up with a new idea for the end of Halo 3, they didn't actually finish Halo 2 (notice how that ending didn't lead to anything at all? I expected to start 3 on the covenant ship.) And why? Because they spend 2 years of the 3 year cycle on multi-player. The first Halo had multi-player as kind of an added bonus, an afterthought. The other Halo games were multi-player first, single player second.

 

[Guitarmasterx7]

Halo has always been about multiplayer gameplay to me. And honestly, for the campaign, as a "Climactic grand finale" halo 3 failed. Horribly. If it was great, then I would be like "oh noez, they're going to fuck up the ending" but since it was so lame they really can't go anywhere but up.

 

[General Vagueness]

I feel bad for the people that get sprayed with the milk from this very overfed cash cow.

Fact: Media is better if it is generated "just because" not off the back off something else

So you think bored school doodles and fan fiction and 4chan posts are the height of art?

The first Halo was good because it actually had some story, some interaction with other characters beyond "go here, kill this." Hell, they couldn't even come up with a new idea for the end of Halo 3, they didn't actually finish Halo 2 (notice how that ending didn't lead to anything at all? I expected to start 3 on the covenant ship.) And why? Because they spend 2 years of the 3 year cycle on multi-player.

If you mean the rushed feeling, or the fact they said "We rushed this a little", it was because a little over half-way through the development they realized they didn't like the game they were heading towards.


Anyway we can stop worrying about non-Bungie Halo games any time soon, the guy in question, Frank O'Connor, just posted this [http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=945095] on [del]the best[/del] my favorite Halo site [http://halo.bungie.org]-- they've put out ads for people to work on making a new game engine and some others that indicate a new game but he said they're "not ready to talk about" a new Halo game (besides ODST and Reach) right now, indicating they don't plan to have to have it done for some time, and for now they seem to be focusing on other Halo fiction.