not that it is very important, but wasn't there that collection of anime Halo stories released not too long ago?
This.dogstile said:I'll be honest, they did a decent job of it. Halo wars is one of the most fun pick up and play RTS's i've playedThe Amazing Tea Alligator said:Yeesh Halo Wars, what an abysmally shitty end for Ensemble. RIP guys.
The game wasn't all that great I agree, but it was kind of worth it for the story. It was interesting and engaging to me.The Amazing Tea Alligator said:Yeesh Halo Wars, what an abysmally shitty end for Ensemble. RIP guys.
it was the Decadence of an Age of Empires...The Amazing Tea Alligator said:Yeesh Halo Wars, what an abysmally shitty end for Ensemble. RIP guys.
Halo timeline as the title suggestsMelancholy_Ocelot said:What...No mention of the Marathon games???
No shit it was simple!It was on a console!LolThe Amazing Tea Alligator said:If you ask me, it was insultingly simple. Not to mention that the console can't do rts controls for shit. There a trillion better rts's out there, all of Ensemble's previous, better games included.dogstile said:I'll be honest, they did a decent job of it. Halo wars is one of the most fun pick up and play RTS's i've playedThe Amazing Tea Alligator said:Yeesh Halo Wars, what an abysmally shitty end for Ensemble. RIP guys.
I'm still trying to figure out why people thought it was a good idea...Tucker154 said:No shit it was simple!It was on a console!LolThe Amazing Tea Alligator said:If you ask me, it was insultingly simple. Not to mention that the console can't do rts controls for shit. There a trillion better rts's out there, all of Ensemble's previous, better games included.dogstile said:I'll be honest, they did a decent job of it. Halo wars is one of the most fun pick up and play RTS's i've playedThe Amazing Tea Alligator said:Yeesh Halo Wars, what an abysmally shitty end for Ensemble. RIP guys.
Bungie has dropped hints every now and then that Marathon and Halo may take place in the same universe. Of course that could just be subtle referencing, who knows.Nouw said:Awww... no mention of some Halo books...
Pretty good though.
Halo timeline as the title suggestsMelancholy_Ocelot said:What...No mention of the Marathon games???
Could be. I bet the Escapist Staff knew though, but didn't include it to confuse people.Irridium said:Bungie has dropped hints every now and then that Marathon and Halo may take place in the same universe. Of course that could just be subtle referencing, who knows.Nouw said:Awww... no mention of some Halo books...
Pretty good though.
Halo timeline as the title suggestsMelancholy_Ocelot said:What...No mention of the Marathon games???
ok for a console RTS it was pretty dam good. That being said i think if they would of made it for the PC and 360 it would have done alot better.The Amazing Tea Alligator said:Yes, but as I said above it's more the reception that's insulting. It's insulting that a game like Halo Wars can exist, not only be made by a great Ensemble Studios but be their final farewell, and that there are critics that can give it an 8.4 with a straight face. The world is a wrong, worrying, and downright insulting place.DazBurger said:But Halo Wars isn't just doing a bad job holding your interest, its downright insulting?The Amazing Tea Alligator said:Those games aren't combat and tactics. Men of War is combat and tactics. Those games are rock paper scissors, micro, and build orders. Nothing wrong with that, it's just not interesting or deep enough to hold my interest.DazBurger said:An RTS dont need economics nor diplomacy. Just look at the C&C games, Warcraft and Starcraft.The Amazing Tea Alligator said:Ensemble has made some good RTS games. Between the lack of any real economy or diplomacy, nor a detailed combat system, it's simply quite dull. If it weren't for the production value, it's about as deep as a movie-based video game. It's like Microsoft expected the game to sell and do well with critics. The trully mindboggling thing is that it did.dogstile said:Insultingly simple? Pray tell, how does a game being simple insult you?The Amazing Tea Alligator said:If you ask me, it was insultingly simple. Not to mention that the console can't do rts controls for shit. There a trillion better rts's out there, all of Ensemble's previous, better games included.dogstile said:I'll be honest, they did a decent job of it. Halo wars is one of the most fun pick up and play RTS's i've playedThe Amazing Tea Alligator said:Yeesh Halo Wars, what an abysmally shitty end for Ensemble. RIP guys.
In conclusion, I suppose that it isn't really the game that's insulting (although it is VERY sad that Halo Wars was Ensembles last farewall), but rather it's reception.
No Economics no diplomacy just pure combat and tactics.
It was never stolen from the PC it was SUPPOSED to be made for Mac. They announced it at a mac conference and the original director used to develope games for mac! I dont know where people get this stupid PC thing from.zwober said:id say you missed one date. "the offical day halo was stolen from the PC"..
yeah, im still a bit bitter about that.
*grumble*
for me it was mostly from pc-news magazines as pcgamer i think, so im guessing thats why one alwasy assumed it would be for the pc aswell. not to be rude to the mac´s but if it could run on that - it would run on anything. and it kinda did, i guess. my memory is a bit fuzzy, but was there a Mac-port for the first or second Halo ? - or did ms decide to keep it for Xbox/PC?Nikolaz72 said:It was never stolen from the PC it was SUPPOSED to be made for Mac. They announced it at a mac conference and the original director used to develope games for mac! I dont know where people get this stupid PC thing from.zwober said:id say you missed one date. "the offical day halo was stolen from the PC"..
yeah, im still a bit bitter about that.
*grumble*
The first video shown at the Mac Conference was to prove what you could do with the mac graphics back in the early year thousand switch and a couple of years before, what they put forward was amazing and did even beat the PC games in terms of graphics at the time of the demo. Bungie was making HALO for MAC but Microsoft bought them over to make games exclusively for Xbox AKA no PC at all. Its like MS killed two flies with a single swing. They delayed Videogames comming to mac by several years and they gained a new flagship for their comming console.zwober said:for me it was mostly from pc-news magazines as pcgamer i think, so im guessing thats why one alwasy assumed it would be for the pc aswell. not to be rude to the mac´s but if it could run on that - it would run on anything. and it kinda did, i guess. my memory is a bit fuzzy, but was there a Mac-port for the first or second Halo ? - or did ms decide to keep it for Xbox/PC?Nikolaz72 said:It was never stolen from the PC it was SUPPOSED to be made for Mac. They announced it at a mac conference and the original director used to develope games for mac! I dont know where people get this stupid PC thing from.zwober said:id say you missed one date. "the offical day halo was stolen from the PC"..
yeah, im still a bit bitter about that.
*grumble*
still, i remember the first gameplay/teaser vid i saw for Halo, and it really felt.. well, Starship troopers mixed with USC-Marines and a ton of fun. when i played the first halo and encounterd the little purple whack-heads, i was more then a bit dissapointed. out with the real-ness i felt from the first few vids - and enter some silly mechaturtle thing.
thats a bit odd tho, isint it ? having halo as a flagship might have been good for Mac, (i cant keep a straight face when writing mac - still feels as im supporting mothers against canada or something) but would halo itself be such a huge franchice today if MS didint buy it ?Nikolaz72 said:They delayed Videogames comming to mac by several years and they gained a new flagship for their comming console.
I find that lowering your standards so that something passes them is never a good idea.ecoho said:ok for a console RTS it was pretty dam good. That being said i think if they would of made it for the PC and 360 it would have done alot better.The Amazing Tea Alligator said:Yes, but as I said above it's more the reception that's insulting. It's insulting that a game like Halo Wars can exist, not only be made by a great Ensemble Studios but be their final farewell, and that there are critics that can give it an 8.4 with a straight face. The world is a wrong, worrying, and downright insulting place.DazBurger said:But Halo Wars isn't just doing a bad job holding your interest, its downright insulting?The Amazing Tea Alligator said:Those games aren't combat and tactics. Men of War is combat and tactics. Those games are rock paper scissors, micro, and build orders. Nothing wrong with that, it's just not interesting or deep enough to hold my interest.DazBurger said:An RTS dont need economics nor diplomacy. Just look at the C&C games, Warcraft and Starcraft.The Amazing Tea Alligator said:Ensemble has made some good RTS games. Between the lack of any real economy or diplomacy, nor a detailed combat system, it's simply quite dull. If it weren't for the production value, it's about as deep as a movie-based video game. It's like Microsoft expected the game to sell and do well with critics. The trully mindboggling thing is that it did.dogstile said:Insultingly simple? Pray tell, how does a game being simple insult you?The Amazing Tea Alligator said:If you ask me, it was insultingly simple. Not to mention that the console can't do rts controls for shit. There a trillion better rts's out there, all of Ensemble's previous, better games included.dogstile said:I'll be honest, they did a decent job of it. Halo wars is one of the most fun pick up and play RTS's i've playedThe Amazing Tea Alligator said:Yeesh Halo Wars, what an abysmally shitty end for Ensemble. RIP guys.
In conclusion, I suppose that it isn't really the game that's insulting (although it is VERY sad that Halo Wars was Ensembles last farewall), but rather it's reception.
No Economics no diplomacy just pure combat and tactics.
Now this is an interresting subject. Going back to change history. But lets look at the facts shall we, Bungie's reason for joining MS in the first place was as you said. Its their best chance to get big. Im just saying that the original plan was to prove that the Mac could be a gaming platform too and the leader/former leader of bungies original hobby was to transfer games from PC to mac alone or with a small group. I believe the reason he left is because microsoft ended up owning bungie more than he did?zwober said:thats a bit odd tho, isint it ? having halo as a flagship might have been good for Mac, (i cant keep a straight face when writing mac - still feels as im supporting mothers against canada or something) but would halo itself be such a huge franchice today if MS didint buy it ?Nikolaz72 said:They delayed Videogames comming to mac by several years and they gained a new flagship for their comming console.
what i mean is, even tho none of us may like it, the xbox would have been the key factor that helped spread Halo into this huge, well - Thing - that it is today. could it have done the same on a mac ? yes, a mac already has a player-base and fans supporting every thing that apple releases, but would it have been the same amount of money and love that Halo got through the Xbox in those first few years ?
Believe me, I went to an alternate universe where Halo was only released for Mac. Everybody I mentioned Halo to said, "What's Halo? Oh that shooter that nobody really bought because the majority of video and computer game players play games on PCs and consoles only."zwober said:thats a bit odd tho, isint it ? having halo as a flagship might have been good for Mac, (i cant keep a straight face when writing mac - still feels as im supporting mothers against canada or something) but would halo itself be such a huge franchice today if MS didint buy it ?Nikolaz72 said:They delayed Videogames comming to mac by several years and they gained a new flagship for their comming console.
what i mean is, even tho none of us may like it, the xbox would have been the key factor that helped spread Halo into this huge, well - Thing - that it is today. could it have done the same on a mac ? yes, a mac already has a player-base and fans supporting every thing that apple releases, but would it have been the same amount of money and love that Halo got through the Xbox in those first few years ?