Hard Questions
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Yeah, but ya gotta admit that 2/3 chance it's gonna be fucked up and degrading. The "ahegao-faced" Erin seems like a dark harbinger of what would come. I know, that sounds... weird to say, I mean it's their character they can do whatever they want to with her, but it shouldn't be ignored that its kinda fucked up that female characters really get shitted on (sometimes litteraly) when Rule 34 gets them.Jmp_man said:
There's a couple of reasons:Vault101 said:
a) Most people have diarrhea at least at some point in their life, so why do so few people (although, I probably should add that "few" is a relative term on the internet) write fan-fiction specifically about that? Because at the end of the day, fiction (fan- or otherwise) isn't about what the characters in the story would do but about what the author wants to write or what they think their audience will want to read as they hold a glass of chianti in one hand and shove the other down the front of their pants and start pleasing their "inner goddess" like there's no tommorow (or at least I assume that's how classy people rub one out). So, most people's problem with Rule 34 stuff is less that a character is having sex, but rather that other people get off on that. (of course there's also the possibility that a sex scene can be intentionally non-tittilating and convey something else than "Phwoa, isn't this hot?" but a) that's rarely the case in fan-fiction/-art of that kind and b) wouldn't fall under Rule 34 since that's about porn specifically)
b) We, as a society treat sexual fantasies different from fantasies of other kinds, and require an additional set of circumstances to make it acceptable to share and discuss them publicly, especially concerning questions of consent. Now, you might argue that the level of taboo associated with discussing sex in our society is much too high (not to mention very unevenly and hypocritically distributed along sex-,gender- and sexual orientation lines) and you would be right, but at the end of the day, if I were to see a photograph of you/someone you cared about and comment that you/they look like you'd/they'd make a great pirate, I'm sure it'd make you feel a lot less uncomfortable than if I were to comment about how you/the person you care about look really "fuckable" or whatever the tasteful equivalent of that would be.
c) We all care about fictional characters one way or another.
d) We all think different stuff is hot/tasteful/[i/] nicely sexual [/i] and that different stuff is less so.
e) Fictional characters cannot consent to or defend themselves against being depicted a certain way. They cannot say something along the lines of "You're nice and all, but your self-insert character isn't really doing it for me, sorry." or "Now that you mention it, I do in fact want to sleep with the entire crew of the Enterprise!"
So, I guess in conclusion: The reason why some people feel Rule 34 is inherently squicky is because they feel it is like seeing someone jerk off to a picture of your mom, then have them turn around once you say something about it and have them go "No, no, what I'm doing is totally alright. I mean, statistically speaking, your mom would probably be into loving vaginal sex combined with some cunilingus and her partner talking about her genitals as 'delicate flowers'. It's not like I'm that deranged sicko over there who has photoshopped a bottle of lube and a giant buttplug with a fake horsetail coming out the back onto the photo. Some people, urgh!"
Except of course that your mom in this case never lived and is also Samus Aran.
"OniiChan"? More like "Oh no chan"! Hey?! Am I right?!mysecondlife said:
*taps mic*
Is... is this thing on?
It's only a matter of time before they personify the more memorable feature of that show: the theme song and Rule34 it...Then again, I'm not willing to look that far to prove my hypothesis.FPLOON said:Well, considering <url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djmUrdIX12I>the theme song "somewhat" downplays the execution of the show in general, I can't see it as a reason for it's lack of Rule 34 presence...
Fetishizing fictional characters is more apparent than real people. What can be scary is that fetishes function similarly to a contagious disease--they spread the more the people are continuously exposed to whatever is considered hot by the other(Go ahead, keep watching that scat porno and deny it, it'll grow on you and you'll hate yourself for it). Japan's sex industry gave us a slew of new fetishes(and probably further pushed pedophilia)through their media. And now, with the Internet, we continue to show how everything and anything can turn on a person and ourselves.
Too bad... because the total "Rule 34"-ing of Get Ed is sure taking its sweet-ass time... By now, the characters of that show would have delivered every single package (big, small, and/or plot-wise to the MC's amnesia/past) presented throughout the series more times than the general postal service within a course of several decades, give or take the "many" return-to-sender-based mail and not including spam mail because that would be cheating...Naturally Sound said:It's only a matter of time before they personify the more memorable feature of that show: the theme song and Rule34 it...Then again, I'm not willing to look that far to prove my hypothesis.FPLOON said:Well, considering <url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djmUrdIX12I>the theme song "somewhat" downplays the execution of the show in general, I can't see it as a reason for it's lack of Rule 34 presence...
Fetishizing fictional characters is more apparent than real people. What can be scary is that fetishes function similarly to a contagious disease--they spread the more the people are continuously exposed to whatever is considered hot by the other(Go ahead, keep watching that scat porno and deny it, it'll grow on you and you'll hate yourself for it). Japan's sex industry gave us a slew of new fetishes(and probably further pushed pedophilia)through their media. And now, with the Internet, we continue to show how everything and anything can turn on a person and ourselves.
It makes a total pervert like me question the true power of 34 if not even certain "obscure"[footnote]The quotations are necessary, in terms of talking about Get Ed, because it was shown on a very popular station alongside other popular animated programs that have gotten the Rule 34 treatment in more ways than just the obvious several...[/footnote] shows even fall under the jurisdiction of being Rule 34 or any other rules that, though not inherently perverse, it could easy fall under because it's the Internet... Still, I'm not in too much of a hurry considering how fast Internet time can (and can not) be under various circumstances, so consider my overall worries the smallest of nitpicks to the general wording of the Rules of the Internet...
Am I the only one bothered by the "make me pretty" means "give me long hair"?LenticularHomicide said:
As for R34, the Laisure Suit Larry one is good and perfectly in-character (for both Larry and Erin).
Most of the others seem to be drawn responses from GG guys mad at Erin's SJW aspect...
