Hardest game ever.
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"Most people who play it will probably never beat the game on its normal difficulty."leet_x1337 said:
I'll give you that one. Then again, it likely applies to most Touhou games and bullet hell in general. I'd like to think that dedicated practice can get most people the ability to play the game with a consistent end result though. For me, that would be screwing up around stage 4 or 5 and so not having enough resources for the final boss. I don't really think the same can be said of IWBTG, which is purely trial and error (hence "unfair")
Parsee isn't that bad, is she? She just has a gimmick that doesn't usually show up for a stage 2 boss. She's rather easy once you figure her out.
Yuugi is brute force bullet spam. Whether you believe brute force or elaborate patterns to be more brain shattering is subjective.
Reimu does kind of get the short end of the stick all around when it comes to Satori. Her Yukari spells have way too much health, her Suika spells are generally insane (Missing Power, anyone?), and her Aya spells are even harder than when Aya herself used them.
Orin is a destroyer of dreams for the first several playthroughs, but is doable once you can reach her consistently and learn her patterns.
Utsuho is a more unique kind of brute force spam, and I personally think she's easier than Orin for the most part. She's also really fun, so that makes it all worth it.
The reason I mentioned Reimu-B specifically is that with every other copied set of attacks (Metal Fatigue rectangle bullets, anyone?) that Satori uses should be familiar to someone with enough knowledge of the series. The thing is, since Suika only appeared in IaMP and SWR, all her patterns are originals, so you can't take anything over. (Not that I'd know; I've never actually gotten up to the main fight with Yuugi...)Et3rnalLegend64 said:
Also, I happen to just prefer Reimu over Marisa. Which is kind of a problem.
The original Contra? No way... piece of cake. Even without The Code.the_maestro_sartori said:
I'll give you Castlevania 1... that was pretty tough at some points, but not the worst I've seen... Castlevania 3 was just too damn awesome to consider incredibly hard.Giest118 said:
OT: I think Ghosts N Goblins & Battletoads are probably the most stupidly hard games ever made.
I loved that game as a kid. The one NES Game I was never able to beat however, was The Battle of Olympus.Worr Monger said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb4J7kO-MBM&feature=related
Haven't tried as an adult however. I should crack that open.
I'll definitely give you that one. Suika is actually one of the few characters that I never used in SWR/Hisoutensoku and I never played IAMP so I had almost no reference for her spells. I was having too much fun dominating with Patchouli to care.leet_x1337 said:
About the one genre I've never been able to be any good at is fighting games (well, that and real-time strategy.) I'm not sure if Satori's Suika attacks are still based on her original patterns for that reason. Anyway, it's unlikely, since the method of survival is different, and we both know that ZUN is a sadist.Et3rnalLegend64 said:
chess. Did you mean video game? I am going with Devil May Cry 3, before the re-release.
Note: I have never played Battletoads.
Note: I have never played Battletoads.
That game actually has "illusioned" difficulty. The game tends to go for cheap kills you can't avoid (like the aforementioned traps) rather than going for clever design.leet_x1337 said:
I liked the level design in that game, but I won't criticise you for having a different opinion.crudus said:
You might be surprised how accurately some spells transferred between genres. I was. Patchy's Satellite Himawari from Shoot the Bullet actually translated pretty well as a SWR player spell. The Boss spells in the fighting games wouldn't seem too out of place in the shooters. They get tweaked a bit as Player spells (as they should), but of course you might have known that already.leet_x1337 said:
Also, fighting games ftw! BlazBlue and SWR/Hisoutensoku are significantly easier than any Bullet Hell I've played. I realize that I have the same problem in both genres though. If I'm doing well in BlazBlue, I try too hard to finish with an Astral Heat. If I'm doing well in Touhou, I don't bomb nearly enough once stage 4 or 5 comes around. I should really fix that.
Demon's Souls difficulty is very overrated, it punishes you for mistakes you make, so the game is only hard if you yourself make it that way, taking time makes it like a walk in the park, granted a walk in the park with demons, dragons and weird poisonous slug things, but still a walk in the park.
Contra III: The Alien Wars always used to kick my ass, even now I've never finished it as the last level is just too much.
Contra III: The Alien Wars always used to kick my ass, even now I've never finished it as the last level is just too much.
Dwarf Fortress. Because losing is fun.
The reason is that it's not frustratingly difficult, but it took about 2-3 months to actually learn the game and it's mechanics.
And I still don't know it's physics.
...And I'm too elitist to quit after all that learning.
The reason is that it's not frustratingly difficult, but it took about 2-3 months to actually learn the game and it's mechanics.
And I still don't know it's physics.
...And I'm too elitist to quit after all that learning.
