"Hatred" Reveal Trailer. Or as I like to call it, "The Next Big Controversy"

[Extra-Ordinary]

I had to watch it again, this time in fullscreen to make sure I didn't miss anything. And yeah, this is very, very distasteful. I know it's a game, but even in video games I absolutely hate unjustified violence. And this is just waaaaay too much. I remember really hating some of the death screams in Mass Effect 2, especially those of female NPC's. They were horrifying. And this game seems to be all about horrifying death and begging for mercy. I won't judge anyone if they want to play this, but it's definitely not for me.

I'm with you, buddy.
I was watching that with a serious "what the hell" look on my face, it really disturbed me.

 

[NuclearKangaroo]

definitively not my thing

I couldn't get over the voice, I ended up thinking "Wow, Duke Nukem went emo..."

hah

 

[Vault101]

this looks very tasteful and I cannot wait for 12 years old little psychopaths to get their hands on it.

I'm just gonna pretend it was actually scully in a witch hat that said that...

OT: ehhh one of those things that will probably fizzle and go away in time

And this is just waaaaay too much. I remember really hating some of the death screams in Mass Effect 2, especially those of female NPC's. They were horrifying. me.

[sub/]I thought the on fire female death screams were kinda funny[/sub]

but yeah I agree

 

[SacremPyrobolum]

Well I say that pushing boundaries is always good, even if it rustles some jimmies. Who knows, this could be a great $5 Steam sale game somewhere down the line.

 

[kickyourass]

I honestly can't see this as getting any more controversy than any random GTA knock-off. If anything most of it will probably talk more about the idiotic sounded "Grrr I'm the most serious thing ever" bullshit than the violence.

 

[Dragonlayer]

I am so stealing the term GENOCIDE CRUSADE for personal use.

Looks like it could be fun to play, in a "Hurr, I'm killing everyone!" sense, which is what I expect the developers were going for and how people will play it, all draped in a cover of pseudo-realism for edgy shock value. I do think killing sprees could be done in gaming format, but it would have to be treated a lot more seriously than this: perhaps a choice-heavy game about someone suffering from depression/severe anxiety/what have you, being bullied and unfufilled by life. Each choice would seemingly improve the character's position at first but the fates would conspire against them in one way or another until they are pushed closer and closer to what they think is the only way out, ending with a fade-to-black screen with the sounds of someone climbing the church tower, the gunfire and screams and then a news report that offers only a streamlined and palatable explanation for the tragic events.

 

[small]

God damn, man. I was expecting something *mildly* offensive at best, like that boring ass JFK assassination simulator at best, this is just sheer undeniable BAITING for contreversy.

You want an honest opinion? Something tells me from the way the gameplay looks, that perhaps they were thinking it wouldn't sell too well without that FOX News "fair and balanced" news segment that says "Hatred: Hyper-Realistic mass murder simulator, Training our kids to shoot up their schools?"

I doubt I'll be playing it unless it gets some positivity going after it's released, and even from the looks of it, it may have to be on sale.

and for once in fox's long and nasty little history they would be right.

i might be getting old but that looks totally fucked up

 

[Dragonlayer]

It's a bit dated, don't you think? The "long haired, trenchcoat wearing loser who listens to metal" is very late-90s/early-00s. It's almost as if they've decided enough time has passed to make Columbine: The Game a thing.

The first thing that popped to mind when I saw the character was "Trenchcoat mafia".

 

[TakerFoxx]

The concept: pretty disturbing. To be honest, as much as I dig darker media (yeah, yeah, point to ava), I always get pretty disturbed by the whole killing for the sake of killing genre, with torture porn and whatnot. Which is odd, seeing how I was a big slasher movie fan back when I was a teen. But yeah, if there's an actual story-related reason with real weight to it? Yeah, I can dig it. But when it becomes really realistic and fetishistic it does sort of bother me.

The actual violence: not...as bad as I thought. Seemed roughly about the same as the gazillion other gory games out there.

The execution (pardon the pun): stupidly edgy. Like, to parody levels. It's like something that walked out of an eighties comic book.

 

[Mezahmay]

Let's see...washed-out color palette except for red, check. White male protagonist, check. No advertised mechanic except for shooting, check. No story to overcomplicate the situation, check.

Yup, looks like game design by numbers. Don't care. Won't purchase. Only difference I noticed immediately between this awful shooter and other awful shooters lately is that this guy is literally nameless instead of figuratively nameless and his trench coat has extra-dimensional pockets.

 

[sataricon]

I played Plague Inc Evolved and the game is amazing.
In this game you unleash deadly viruses on earth and watch as billions of people die.
In fact you design the plagues your self and mutate them to your likening.

what is the difference here?
especially if the game get to have good mechanics and fun to play.

I do know that this is somewhat an unpopular opinion around here but i need someone to tell me what is difference between you making a deadly virus "or play a real one such as The Plague" and kill billions of people and you play as a guy in a black coat and go kill hundreds of people?

They both seem real and you do play on real earth with real instruments in both games yet the plague inc one is no where as Controversial as Hatred.

 

[Terminal Blue]

I do know that this is somewhat an unpopular opinion around here but i need someone to tell me what is difference between you making a deadly virus "or play a real one such as The Plague" and kill billions of people and you play as a guy in a black coat and go kill hundreds of people?

I would guess it's because there's no chance I'll never actually be a deadly virus.

But we could all be mass-killers if we wanted, or at least try.

 

[Bombiz]

Gameplay look boring as fuck. And it doesn't seem to have any challenge to it at all. It's just pretentious/angsty crap "fuck the world look at me not give a fuck i'm da best #genocidalcrusade"

That said, it looks fun as fuck, because instead of your 'enemies' running towards you (zombies, etc), they're trying to run *away,* which might make for some interesting gameplay. Note the person running under the windows while the PC sprays across them.

What? Thats not fun. It's God Damn annoying. It's like great i have to waste my fucking time chaseing down the fucker. And for what? Oh man you sure got that unarmed person who was literally of no consequence and a complete wast of my time. Fucking Great. Cookie Clicker, Clicker Heroes, Angry Birds, and GemCraft are games with way more interesting mechanics then "enemies run away".

I played Plague Inc Evolved and the game is amazing.
In this game you unleash deadly viruses on earth and watch as billions of people die.
In fact you design the plagues your self and mutate them to your likening.

what is the difference here?
if the game get to have good mechanics and fun to play.

I do know that this is somewhat an unpopular opinion around here but i need someone to tell me what is difference between you making a deadly virus "or play a real one such as The Plague" and kill billions of people and you play as a guy in a black coat and go kill hundreds of people?

They both seem real and you do play on real earth with real instruments in both games yet the plague inc one is no where as Controversial as Hatred.

Because Plague Inc Evolved is just way more fun then this games looks to be. In Plague Inc i get to develop and evolve a virus using a set of interesting mechanics. In Hatred it just looks like your guy is invincible and goes around shooting shit that doesn't even present a modicum of challenge.

 

[Mezahmay]

I do know that this is somewhat an unpopular opinion around here but i need someone to tell me what is difference between you making a deadly virus "or play a real one such as The Plague" and kill billions of people and you play as a guy in a black coat and go kill hundreds of people?

Plague Inc: Evolved uses numbers, bars, and a world map to represent an abstract representation of human death. There's no active human violence and the gameplay is closer to a 4X strategy game. Hatred and games like it have you the player actively going around and actively senselessly killing people, showing blood, weapons, etc. There's an expectation of how humans are supposed to behave and this game radically ignores that. A virus' sole purpose is replicate, which is exactly what happens in Plague Inc. That's the mindset you are placed in when you invest in producing a virus, with the UI, gameplay, and win conditions reflecting such. People have some reservations about humans behaving like viruses. I don't really because this game just isn't worth the time to care based solely on this trailer.

 

[sataricon]

I do know that this is somewhat an unpopular opinion around here but i need someone to tell me what is difference between you making a deadly virus "or play a real one such as The Plague" and kill billions of people and you play as a guy in a black coat and go kill hundreds of people?

I would guess it's because there's no chance I'll never actually be a deadly virus.

But we could all be mass-killers if we wanted, or at least try.

So you do think that playing a video game can turn you into a psychotic killer?
Wow.... Jack Thompson would be happy to hear that.

I do know that this is somewhat an unpopular opinion around here but i need someone to tell me what is difference between you making a deadly virus "or play a real one such as The Plague" and kill billions of people and you play as a guy in a black coat and go kill hundreds of people?

Plague Inc: Evolved uses numbers, bars, and a world map to represent an abstract representation of human death. There's no active human violence and the gameplay is closer to a 4X strategy game. Hatred and games like it have you the player actively going around and actively senselessly killing people, showing blood, weapons, etc. There's an expectation of how humans are supposed to behave and this game radically ignores that. A virus' sole purpose is replicate, which is exactly what happens in Plague Inc. That's the mindset you are placed in when you invest in producing a virus, with the UI, gameplay, and win conditions reflecting such. People have some reservations about humans behaving like viruses. I don't really because this game just isn't worth the time to care based solely on this trailer.

Is this one worse than plague inc because in plague inc you don't see the death that your plague has cause?
So it's only bad when you see the effect but the thought itself is ok?

 

[sataricon]

I played Plague Inc Evolved and the game is amazing.
In this game you unleash deadly viruses on earth and watch as billions of people die.
In fact you design the plagues your self and mutate them to your likening.

what is the difference here?
if the game get to have good mechanics and fun to play.

I do know that this is somewhat an unpopular opinion around here but i need someone to tell me what is difference between you making a deadly virus "or play a real one such as The Plague" and kill billions of people and you play as a guy in a black coat and go kill hundreds of people?

They both seem real and you do play on real earth with real instruments in both games yet the plague inc one is no where as Controversial as Hatred.

Because Plague Inc Evolved is just way more fun then this games looks to be. In Plague Inc i get to develop and evolve a virus using a set of interesting mechanics. In Hatred it just looks like your guy is invincible and goes around shooting shit that doesn't even present a modicum of challenge.[/quote]

So it's bad because it lacks the mechanics?
But as far as of now this isn't clear because it's just a trailer.

I think you may be judging this game not based on mechanics but on something else.
Which is fine by me BTW.

 

[Mezahmay]

I do know that this is somewhat an unpopular opinion around here but i need someone to tell me what is difference between you making a deadly virus "or play a real one such as The Plague" and kill billions of people and you play as a guy in a black coat and go kill hundreds of people?

Plague Inc: Evolved uses numbers, bars, and a world map to represent an abstract representation of human death. There's no active human violence and the gameplay is closer to a 4X strategy game. Hatred and games like it have you the player actively going around and actively senselessly killing people, showing blood, weapons, etc. There's an expectation of how humans are supposed to behave and this game radically ignores that. A virus' sole purpose is replicate, which is exactly what happens in Plague Inc. That's the mindset you are placed in when you invest in producing a virus, with the UI, gameplay, and win conditions reflecting such. People have some reservations about humans behaving like viruses. I don't really because this game just isn't worth the time to care based solely on this trailer.

Is this one worse than plague inc because in plague inc you don't see the death that your plague has cause?
So it's only bad when you see the effect but the thought itself is ok?

Well, from a purely narrative stand point based on the trailer for Hatred compared to Plague Inc: Evolved, yes. For all I know Hatred might take everyone by surprise and their game will actually be an interesting character study on a severely mentally disturbed individual or feature additional game mechanics beyond mowing down civilians that unfold through mindless grinding. Past experience says this probably is not the case, but it's possible and is why I can't just say this game is worse solely for its depiction of violence instead of abstracted death from disease.

For example, Plague Inc could also be used to educate people on the general transfer mechanisms of viruses through the evolution trees and give cursory background knowledge of epidemiology. In a video I watched to better understand Plague Inc before responding, the guy specifically started in Madagascar due to its general isolation from the rest of the world. That means in the late game it will be harder for 100% infection rate in the world if Madagascar is untouched. It's strategy and science all at once!

All we know of Hatred is that a literally nameless guy goes around shooting people because he's angry and feels like it. No story, no strategy, just stupid, lazy shooting and knife violence.

 

[Bombiz]

I played Plague Inc Evolved and the game is amazing.
In this game you unleash deadly viruses on earth and watch as billions of people die.
In fact you design the plagues your self and mutate them to your likening.

what is the difference here?
if the game get to have good mechanics and fun to play.

I do know that this is somewhat an unpopular opinion around here but i need someone to tell me what is difference between you making a deadly virus "or play a real one such as The Plague" and kill billions of people and you play as a guy in a black coat and go kill hundreds of people?

They both seem real and you do play on real earth with real instruments in both games yet the plague inc one is no where as Controversial as Hatred.

Because Plague Inc Evolved is just way more fun then this games looks to be. In Plague Inc i get to develop and evolve a virus using a set of interesting mechanics. In Hatred it just looks like your guy is invincible and goes around shooting shit that doesn't even present a modicum of challenge.

So it's bad because it lacks the mechanics?
But as far as of now this isn't clear because it's just a trailer.

I think you may be judging this game not based on mechanics but on something else.
Which is fine by me BTW.[/quote]

Well from what I've seen of the trailer the mechanics don't look all that interesting. And I doubt the people developing this are actually going to put some kind of deep and profound mechanic into the game. More likely they're making thins game to garner controversy so that a lot of people go out and by their game cause controversy sells.

Captcha: that's a fact jack

 

[debtcollector]

I played Plague Inc Evolved and the game is amazing.
In this game you unleash deadly viruses on earth and watch as billions of people die.
In fact you design the plagues your self and mutate them to your likening.

what is the difference here?

It's pretty obvious that this is fetishizing the act of killing individual humans one at a time, rather than the holistic, hands-off approach of Plague Inc. The latter game is able to distance itself from its implications, because the goal is not clearly "kill all the humans", but more "get your virus as widely dispersed as possible." Hatred does not have that luxury: you play as one person who tries to kill as many people as he can, one by one. You watch them bleed and hear them scream, and you can't argue that the goal of the game is anything but "slaughter everyone you can." I assume you were just playing devil's advocate, but Poe's Law.

OT: Christ, this was exactly what video games needed. Right after Gamergate was the last big video game flavor in the mainstream media, now we get a straight-up murder simulator. Considering that the game looks like it will appeal mostly to mouthbreathing high school social outcasts in Drowning Pool shirts will probably not help.

 

[nightmare_gorilla]

yeah this is either a very poorly timed joke (I hope) or a really good excuse for the mainstream media to parade around gamers as dangerous sociopaths. i'm all for artistic freedom but this looks like it's just begging to be censored. maybe with more context it will seem less disgusting but just my personal opinion it looks fairly repugnant.

best part is before we had some respectable voices to argue against the "gamers are evil" routine fox spins but now that journalists have thrown their readers to the wolves nobody is going to be defending us.