"Hatred" Reveal Trailer. Or as I like to call it, "The Next Big Controversy"
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"In this photo of the development team, we can see that one of the developers wears a shirt depicting a historical anti-communist military group (Żołnierze wyklęci, historically associated with the Freikorps)".DoctorImpossible said:
I see nothing wrong with this. Poland suffered greatly under Communism.
Also, I saw none of these poor "people of color" being killed in the trailer so these folks can fuck off.
If Jim does say this game needs to be shut the he'd be a hypocrite considering that episode where he asked for more games where u get to play the villainToblo1 said:
The concept you are looking for is called 'context'. Since we're unfortunately not living in a world in which any given act can be classified as either being absolutely wrong or absolutely right we have to contextualise.Antonio Scott said:
To wit: the act of taking something is generally considered value neutral. Taking your own property is okay, taking somebody else's property is not.
The act of killing, meanwhile, is generally considered a bad thing. Killing someone on purpose gets you convicted for murder, killing an assailant in self defence does not.
And finally the act of saving a life is generally considered a good thing. Saving children from a burning orphanage gets you applause, saving Pol Pot from a burning orphanage... not so much.
As to video games, you're right: Affiliate the killing with an opposing group and give said opposing group something 'evil' to do and you're sorted. Change the context by making the people you're slaughtering innocent victims and you're begging for controversy. See how it works?
So, now that you're equipped with that tasty morsel of (common sense) knowledge you may hopefully see why people might be a bit upset.
Part of me wonders if this was commissioned by people who genuinely hate videogames and/or the people trying to change videogames "for the better"...
Because it kind of looks like Starwman: The Game to me; something manufactured purely to paint the industry and gamers as crazy people. It plays on just about every prejudice and it seems to be doing it on purpose.
Because it kind of looks like Starwman: The Game to me; something manufactured purely to paint the industry and gamers as crazy people. It plays on just about every prejudice and it seems to be doing it on purpose.
It looks pretty cool from the mechanical stand point. Destructible walls and such and the noir style has its charm.
As for the premise this is going to start a shit storm.
Plague Inc has been mentioned and while it's far worse in what it depicts it does it less graphically. (I love it by the way.) It remained under the radar as it feels more like your working with statistics instead of going from person to person and injecting them with the disease.
While it would be fun to fool around with the game I don't think it will be as popular as Postal as it only has seems to have one objective; Just kill. And that gets boring after a while.
As for the premise this is going to start a shit storm.
Plague Inc has been mentioned and while it's far worse in what it depicts it does it less graphically. (I love it by the way.) It remained under the radar as it feels more like your working with statistics instead of going from person to person and injecting them with the disease.
While it would be fun to fool around with the game I don't think it will be as popular as Postal as it only has seems to have one objective; Just kill. And that gets boring after a while.
*shrug*Quadocky said:
If it's an actual reactionary piece against a movement, then hey, that's interesting in and of itself. Maybe we can consider it some sort of anti-art dadaism in a video game form, depending on how bad it ends up being.
Though honestly, I still think Sluggish Morss does it better
I thought that was Brutal Legend :3Quadocky said:
I think metal has gotten a lot of New Sincerity attention recently, not a lot of people ironically liking metal.
Reminder: one of the most popular video game franchises in the world is named after a felony and enables people to go on killing-sprees.xPixelatedx said:
That is done very tongue in cheek with a dark humor context, that's why you can use jet-packs, go in submarines and have subtitles like ballad of gay tony. It's still very "Video Gamey", but this doesn't seem like that at all. This seems more "Columbine", and done so entierly with a straight face.Uriel_Hayabusa said:
We don't even know what the finished product is like. Spec Ops The Line looked like a generic shooter about killing Muslims but when you played it was an absolute mastery of storytelling.
Hatred could have a similar commentary behind it
Hatred could have a similar commentary behind it
Some people still took issue with the game in spite of all that. A good example being Gamespot's reviewer who found the game ''profoundly misogynistic'' among other things. The way I see it, a work doesn't have to be exempt from criticism just because it's ''satire'', and if people are allowed to take issue with the way a game like GTA depicts women why shouldn't they be allowed to take issue with the way it depicts violence?xPixelatedx said:
Then id suggest that both you and the journalists who take issue with "the way its being presented" actually come up with a way to show the "correct" way of presenting violence and adult themes in video games.Uriel_Hayabusa said:
Without making it more "cinematic" so to speak
I really don't see what you're getting at with that bolded part, especially what you're referring to when you say ''cinematic''.QuicklyAcross said:
That said, I do believe that people should be able to criticize the way violence is presented in a video game (or games, period) without being dismissed as an idiot (see: the Jimquisition-episode Desensitized to Violence, among other things). In fact, I feel that gaming culture's unwillingness to do so (even though folks like Jack Thompson are no longer a ''threat'' so to speak) is holding it (both the medium and the community) back.
