"Hatred" Reveal Trailer. Or as I like to call it, "The Next Big Controversy"

[C. Cain]

I find it kinda stupid how people are upset at this tbh. The method to the madness of the game aside, the fact that people are opposed to this while in other games and media people can be killed with reckless abandon and no one bats an eye. All they have to do is make sure they affiliate with some opposing group and all sins are absolved.

The concept you are looking for is called 'context'. Since we're unfortunately not living in a world in which any given act can be classified as either being absolutely wrong or absolutely right we have to contextualise.

To wit: the act of taking something is generally considered value neutral. Taking your own property is okay, taking somebody else's property is not.

The act of killing, meanwhile, is generally considered a bad thing. Killing someone on purpose gets you convicted for murder, killing an assailant in self defence does not.

And finally the act of saving a life is generally considered a good thing. Saving children from a burning orphanage gets you applause, saving Pol Pot from a burning orphanage... not so much.

As to video games, you're right: Affiliate the killing with an opposing group and give said opposing group something 'evil' to do and you're sorted. Change the context by making the people you're slaughtering innocent victims and you're begging for controversy. See how it works?

So, now that you're equipped with that tasty morsel of (common sense) knowledge you may hopefully see why people might be a bit upset.

 

[Goro]

Oh my god, can I get that voice actor hired personally??

"I've watched The Crow seventeen thousand times."
"My life has been a blurred miasma of Faces of Death and slim jims."
"The plural is just 'anime,' Mom."

Totally agree, I want that guy to do all my outgoing voicemail...
"I tried, but the world just wouldn't let me get to your call, so now you'll have to wait. For the beep"....

 

[Quadocky]

From the Website:

These days, when a lot of games are heading to be polite, colorful, politically correct and trying to be some kind of higher art, rather than just an entertainment ? we wanted to create something against trends. Something different, something that could give the player a pure, gaming pleasure.

Wow. I wish I lived in whatever imagination land they do.

The game looks exactly like something a secretly neo-nazi person would make. Or an un-ironic metal head.

 

[xPixelatedx]

Part of me wonders if this was commissioned by people who genuinely hate videogames and/or the people trying to change videogames "for the better"...

Because it kind of looks like Starwman: The Game to me; something manufactured purely to paint the industry and gamers as crazy people. It plays on just about every prejudice and it seems to be doing it on purpose.

 

[EXos]

It looks pretty cool from the mechanical stand point. Destructible walls and such and the noir style has its charm.
As for the premise this is going to start a shit storm.

Plague Inc has been mentioned and while it's far worse in what it depicts it does it less graphically. (I love it by the way.) It remained under the radar as it feels more like your working with statistics instead of going from person to person and injecting them with the disease.

While it would be fun to fool around with the game I don't think it will be as popular as Postal as it only has seems to have one objective; Just kill. And that gets boring after a while.

 

[Evonisia]

This is a comedy, right? 'cause there is no way in hell that character is intimidating.

 

[Irick]

From the Website:

These days, when a lot of games are heading to be polite, colorful, politically correct and trying to be some kind of higher art, rather than just an entertainment ? we wanted to create something against trends. Something different, something that could give the player a pure, gaming pleasure.

Wow. I wish I lived in whatever imagination land they do.

*shrug*
If it's an actual reactionary piece against a movement, then hey, that's interesting in and of itself. Maybe we can consider it some sort of anti-art dadaism in a video game form, depending on how bad it ends up being.
Though honestly, I still think Sluggish Morss does it better

Or an un-ironic metal head.

I thought that was Brutal Legend :3
I think metal has gotten a lot of New Sincerity attention recently, not a lot of people ironically liking metal.

 

[Uriel_Hayabusa]

Part of me wonders if this was commissioned by people who genuinely hate videogames and/or the people trying to change videogames "for the better"...

Because it kind of looks like Starwman: The Game to me; something manufactured purely to paint the industry and gamers as crazy people. It plays on just about every prejudice and it seems to be doing it on purpose.

Reminder: one of the most popular video game franchises in the world is named after a felony and enables people to go on killing-sprees.

 

[nevarran]

Haha, ok, let's see if we really are the assholes people brand us to be...
Call me back when you have some sales figures.

 

[xPixelatedx]

Part of me wonders if this was commissioned by people who genuinely hate videogames and/or the people trying to change videogames "for the better"...

Because it kind of looks like Starwman: The Game to me; something manufactured purely to paint the industry and gamers as crazy people. It plays on just about every prejudice and it seems to be doing it on purpose.

Reminder: one of the most popular video game franchises in the world is named after a felony and enables people to go on killing-sprees.

That is done very tongue in cheek with a dark humor context, that's why you can use jet-packs, go in submarines and have subtitles like ballad of gay tony. It's still very "Video Gamey", but this doesn't seem like that at all. This seems more "Columbine", and done so entierly with a straight face.

 

[endtherapture]

We don't even know what the finished product is like. Spec Ops The Line looked like a generic shooter about killing Muslims but when you played it was an absolute mastery of storytelling.

Hatred could have a similar commentary behind it

 

[Uriel_Hayabusa]

Part of me wonders if this was commissioned by people who genuinely hate videogames and/or the people trying to change videogames "for the better"...

Because it kind of looks like Starwman: The Game to me; something manufactured purely to paint the industry and gamers as crazy people. It plays on just about every prejudice and it seems to be doing it on purpose.

Reminder: one of the most popular video game franchises in the world is named after a felony and enables people to go on killing-sprees.

That is done very tongue in cheek with a dark humor context, that's why you can use jet-packs, go in submarines and have subtitles like ballad of gay tony. It's still very "Video Gamey", but this doesn't seem like that at all. This seems more "Columbine", and done so entierly with a straight face.

Some people still took issue with the game in spite of all that. A good example being Gamespot's reviewer who found the game ''profoundly misogynistic'' among other things. The way I see it, a work doesn't have to be exempt from criticism just because it's ''satire'', and if people are allowed to take issue with the way a game like GTA depicts women why shouldn't they be allowed to take issue with the way it depicts violence?

 

[QuicklyAcross]

Part of me wonders if this was commissioned by people who genuinely hate videogames and/or the people trying to change videogames "for the better"...

Because it kind of looks like Starwman: The Game to me; something manufactured purely to paint the industry and gamers as crazy people. It plays on just about every prejudice and it seems to be doing it on purpose.

Reminder: one of the most popular video game franchises in the world is named after a felony and enables people to go on killing-sprees.

That is done very tongue in cheek with a dark humor context, that's why you can use jet-packs, go in submarines and have subtitles like ballad of gay tony. It's still very "Video Gamey", but this doesn't seem like that at all. This seems more "Columbine", and done so entierly with a straight face.

Some people still took issue with the game in spite of all that. A good example being Gamespot's reviewer who found the game ''profoundly misogynistic'' among other things. The way I see it, a work doesn't have to be exempt from criticism just because it's ''satire'', and if people are allowed to take issue with the way a game like GTA depicts women why shouldn't they be allowed to take issue with the way it depicts violence?

Then id suggest that both you and the journalists who take issue with "the way its being presented" actually come up with a way to show the "correct" way of presenting violence and adult themes in video games.
Without making it more "cinematic" so to speak

 

[Uriel_Hayabusa]

Then id suggest that both you and the journalists who take issue with "the way its being presented" actually come up with a way to show the "correct" way of presenting violence and adult themes in video games.
Without making it more "cinematic" so to speak

I really don't see what you're getting at with that bolded part, especially what you're referring to when you say ''cinematic''.

That said, I do believe that people should be able to criticize the way violence is presented in a video game (or games, period) without being dismissed as an idiot (see: the Jimquisition-episode Desensitized to Violence, among other things). In fact, I feel that gaming culture's unwillingness to do so (even though folks like Jack Thompson are no longer a ''threat'' so to speak) is holding it (both the medium and the community) back.

 

[Flames66]

It doesn't look like a game I would play. It has reminded me that I haven't yet played the Postal games, so I suppose that's a positive.

 

[SomeGuyOnHisComputer]

It just looks like a Postal knockoff to me.
I doubt It'll have the balls to be as outright nightmare inducing as Postal though. So I wonder ... what's the point?

 

[sataricon]

It just looks like a Postal knockoff to me.
I doubt It'll have the balls to be as outright nightmare inducing as Postal though. So I wonder ... what's the point?

what's the point of making 100 assassins's creed games?
Why make 15 or so of the Fifa games?

Money that's why.

 

[Wraith]

Not gonna lie, I'd play the fuck out of this, because I am very entertained by brutal gameplay and destruction physics. It's why I played GTA all of my life.

 

[Fishyash]

In all seriousness, this game could end up being really good, like an isometric run & gun game such as Metal Slug. The villain protagonist idea is hardly fresh and doesn't seem well done. Looking at the team in the website it looks like there are no writers, so I won't be getting my hopes up for an interesting story.

Anyone notice how the link provided in the description of the youtube video? The one that goes the games site? Notice how kid friendly the game presented in the site actually is? Yeah we got played like a fiddle.

Kid friendly? Are we looking at the same website?

A few of the developers have apparent links to white supremacist groups: http://fucknovideogames.tumblr.com/post/100204212288/hatred-is-a-genocide-simulator-developed-by-neo-nazis

I'd support a product if it's good enough, even if I thought it was developed by horrible human beings. Wagner's operas and his influence to the music art form is the best example I can think of.

 

[Zhukov]

Oh man, 14-year-old-me would totally buy this.

Although I suspect that even 14-year-old-me would turn his nose up at that voiceover.

If they're aiming for disturbing then I think they're rather wide of the mark. Disturbing is found in the small and subtle and grounded, the humdrum and everyday, not in the big and bombastic and over the top. At least for me.

It'll be pretty funny if it actually does turn out to be made by neo-nazis. I mean geez guys, way to live up to the stereotype.

It's a shame really, some of those destruction physics actually looked pretty cool.